480 ruger ?

[monge]

Will the 480 ruger sbh shoot 475 linebaugh ?

[High Desert Hunter]

Not without modification, the 475 Linebaugh case is longer than the 480 Ruger, it is also loaded to a higher pressure than the 480 Ruger is, which is why all 475 Linebaughs I have handled or fired were 5 shots.

[Tatume]

One day I met a Ruger sales representative who told me that the 480 Ruger Super Redhawk is not supposed to handle 475 Linebaugh ammunition, but that it will. I've never tried it.

[Ramjet-SS]

NO NO WAY

Linebaugh is longer and much higher pressure.

[Tatume]

Could be. I'm only reporting what the Ruger sales rep said.

P.s. Don't try it.

[RobS]

Not a Ruger SBH 480 rather the SRH and no this Ruger will not chamber the 475 Linebaugh nor was it ever intended to do so.

[Jupiter7]

The gun has the strength. I think there was a little mis-interpretation. .480 is a shortened .475.

[junkpile]

The gun has the strength. I think there was a little mis-interpretation. .480 is a shortened .475.

Listen to this guy. Here is some information on the rounds:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/.480_Ruger

So do you have the SRH or a custom SBH?

[osteodoc08]

Ruger has made a recent run of the 480Ruger SRH so they are out there and available. I've thought of picking up one but don't need another caliber to reload or buy molds for or......

[warboar_21]

I recently sold my SRH in 480 Ruger. It was a great gun but the recoil from it in a double action handgun could be brutal with full pressure loads. They are plenty strong to handle the 50,000psi that the .475 linebaugh operates at. In fact I saw a few .480 Rugers on Gunbroker that had their cylinders reamed to .475 linebaugh. The smith who did the conversion was a reputable one and if I remember right I think it was Gary Reeder. There are 2 thousand psi difference between the cartridges. I'm sure the proof loads in the .480 are more than that.

It's one of those things that once it's gone you regret selling it. I do wish I would have held on to it. Oh well I did buy a nice 4-5/8" 45 Colt convertible black hawk with the money I made on the sale.

[junkpile]

I must be on a different wavelength than some of the respondents to this question. Are we talking about a 480 SRH reamed long enough for 475 linebaugh, or are we talking about trying to stuff a 475 cartridge into a 480 chamber? Because the latter obviously won't fit.

[DLCTEX]

I have one in a Tarus Raging Bull and it is not at all bad as far as recoil. The cushioned grips and muzzel brake probably help that. Hearing protection is a must! It is extremely accurate with the 400 gr. Lee boolit. I haven't really tested it with 325 gr. factory loads

[warf73]

The 480 ruger has enough bark with full house loads. There are a few places that will take your 6 shot 480 SRH and put a 5 shot 475 Linba cyclinder in it and you are set.
Think of the 480 Ruger as a 38 special and the 475 Linba as a 357magnum in case length wise.

The 480 will kill paper and critters just as dead as the 475 Linba, kind of like saying the 300 winchester kills LESS than 300 weatherby just isn't so.

Just my option, not saying I wouldn't take 5 shot 475 Linba if given to me :)

[Tatume]

I must be on a different wavelength than some of the respondents to this question. Are we talking about a 480 SRH reamed long enough for 475 linebaugh, or are we talking about trying to stuff a 475 cartridge into a 480 chamber? Because the latter obviously won't fit.

Have you tried it? I have not. All I said was that a Ruger sales rep told me it would fit. I never claimed I believed him, but just that he said it. He seemed sincere enough though. This was during the first run, and it could be that Ruger made the chambers long back then, and they cut them tight now; who knows?

[Lloyd Smale]

the 480 runs at 48000 psi and the 475 at 50000. not really enough to make a differnce. I dont know about the longevity of ruger guns running a steady diet of full powered loads and how long doing it before youd run into it loosening up. Keep in mind that with a custom built 475 are tolarences are more precise and the gun is hand fit. Im sure the 480s can be reamed and shot with full power 480s without blowing up but i wouldnt be sure about them getting shot loose after a while. One thing to add though is if your anything like me your 475s or even 480s loads are seldom full power anyway. I also know that when i wanted a 475 da gun and was dealing with dustin linebaugh he told me 5 shot or not at all. Im sure it was liability and him knowing that I do occasionaly push the limits with my guns.

[junkpile]

Have you tried it? I have not. All I said was that a Ruger sales rep told me it would fit. I never claimed I believed him, but just that he said it. He seemed sincere enough though. This was during the first run, and it could be that Ruger made the chambers long back then, and they cut them tight now; who knows?

No I have not. I drooled over the SRH's in 480, but then they disappeared before I could catch one. Now, I prefer single actions to doubles, so still don't have my own. However, case length on a 475 is 1.4", and case length on the 480 is 1.285". Also, I didn't think the SRH cylinder was long enough for the overall length of the 475.

[44man]

I love my BFR in .475 Linebaugh, best deer killer ever but the .480 is not to be denied as a great one itself. No need to have more.
I doubt even the early .480's would take the length of a Linebaugh and it is just not needed anyway.
The early six shot .480's had strong steel but it would stretch so cases would stick. To shoot the longer rounds if they would fit would make the problem worse.
Now a SRH with a five shot cylinder would take the Linebaugh and would handle any load you care to shoot. I think the .480 should have been five from the start. It was Ruger pride to make the six shot.
You need to understand the .475, my BFR is easy and also hard to shoot. It does not hurt and there is no problem running 100 rounds of full power loads but you need control when hunting or the barrel rise and torque will make you over shoot deer. You need some strength for the control and need to hold the gun tight. If you think you will let a .475 "ROLL", don't even think about one.
It is actually worse then my .500 JRH. But both can twist your wrist from the bench, off hand both need held TIGHT.
My friend shot my .475 from the bench, split his head and gave himself a huge shiner, told me he likes to hold his guns "loose." Not to be!
Most recoil problems are from a Milk toast hold and roll. Too many think a Bisley will fix it.
I am a month away from being 77 years old and I love the big guns.
Kind of disgusting to see a guy looking for wimp loads in a .44.
If I had a .480, I would get as many deer as I wanted. By itself it is a jewel.

[Lloyd Smale]

wore the front sight blade in the top of my head a few times "letting the linebaugh roll" Like 44man said the 480 is a heck of a well balanced round. Its were 95 percent of my 475 loads are at anyway. I really doubt if theres an animal on earth that would notice the extra 150 fps.

[44man]

That is so true Lloyd. So many want to make a gun more then it is. Even the .44 is wanted to be taken to 1500 fps when it does the job at way less. The .45 Colt just has to be taken to .454 ranges.
There are always two type posts, those looking for no recoil or those looking for the gun busting loads.

[Ramjet-SS]

I most often ran my Linebaugh at lower velocities with WFN cast bullets they would run a deer stem to stern. Even from my 480 lever gun I hold velocities in the 1200 FPS range.

[44man]

I own many revolvers but there are some I have no use for, the .454. .460 and .500 S&W. They can extend range but I prefer a deer at 20 yards. I am not going to set a rest for long range because deer don't cooperate like that so most shots are off hand with me twisted out of shape. I also do not hunt huge animals. Yet the .475 or a .480 would be at the top for deer. I see no difference between them. Most deer I shoot with the .475 drop right now and if you say your .480 needs more I will beat you black and blue with a feather!
These calibers are at home with deer but there is no animal on earth you can't use them on either.
There is something about the .476" boolit that I can't deny. You can shoot a deer one day and a buf the next with the same load.

[ole 5 hole group]

wore the front sight blade in the top of my head a few times "letting the linebaugh roll"

You put a smile on my face this morning Lloyd, as I envisioned that barrel greeting your noggin'. :-o

I've never mishandled a heavy recoiler per se, so no damage to my noggin' yet, but I did manage to disrespect a stupid 45 Colt load in a puny FA97 once, but I got away unscathed, but from that experience, I do know how it feels to have a barrel whizzing by my left ear and winding up just off my shoulder in a nano second - now that took some doing/luck not to lose a little blood pulling that caper off.:shock:

I have managed to send a few parts from different firearms flying over my head such as Ruger cylinder pins and front sight hoods.

[44man]

Only one revolver I refused to shoot, a .50 Alaskan with shiny, Bisley grips. I hate a Bisley on any revolver. But one that looked buffed where no glove would grip it was OUT!
Then the owner did split his head wide open so I had the last laugh.
I watched a video of a gun maker shooting one of those tiny guns with a huge caliber and the gun was beside his left ear every shot. You can't shoot good if you have to put all attention into guiding a gun so you don't get conked.

[Lloyd Smale]

I know what shooting a 50ak rifle is like with full power loads and have absolutely no desire to shoot them out of a handgun!!!! Ive been shooting linebaughs of all configurations for years and dont even care if i ever crank off another 475 max or 500 max out of them again either. bottom line is im never going to hunt an elephant and even if i did i dont think the 50ak 500 or 475 max give one iota of advantage in killing something that big over a plain old 475 or 500. that extra velocity can actually hurt penetration and penetration is what you want on big animals more then anything. You surely arent going to shock an elephants system with an extra 200 fps out of a handgun. Nope give me a 475 shooting a 400 grain bullet or a 500 using a 450 grain bullet at 1100-1200 fps. Those loads will do alot of killing. Heck a 44 mag or 45 colt with a 300 grain bullet at those speeds has taken about every game animal in the world.

[44man]

That is why I don't like the calibers I mentioned, They are actually too fast. I do not like the .500 S&W either.

[reader]

I got my .480 SRH for cheap. Mounted 30 mm Ultradot. I ordered a custom 405 gr mold with .500 long nose from Mountain Molds. At least my SRH can chamber it. A bore riding design. I sort of followed John Ross guidelines but for .480. There is about .080" space between the case mouth and cylinder throat in my gun. The first driving band goes to the throat, with finger pressure. I ordered a sizing die for perfect sizing from Lathesmith.

Now I have the same powder capacity as in std. .475 Linebaugh, or in some loads slightly more. However, I am not sure if I need or want more than 1300 fps with 405 gr. I have a .500 S&W for those.

[44man]

You will do fine, no need for more. You are at the exact right spot. The .480 will do better then the .500 unless you use jacketed or a softer boolit in the .500.

[paul h]

I got my .480 SRH for cheap. Mounted 30 mm Ultradot. I ordered a custom 405 gr mold with .500 long nose from Mountain Molds. At least my SRH can chamber it. A bore riding design. I sort of followed John Ross guidelines but for .480. There is about .080" space between the case mouth and cylinder throat in my gun. The first driving band goes to the throat, with finger pressure. I ordered a sizing die for perfect sizing from Lathesmith.

Now I have the same powder capacity as in std. .475 Linebaugh, or in some loads slightly more. However, I am not sure if I need or want more than 1300 fps with 405 gr. I have a .500 S&W for those.

As noted, the 480 can be loaded long with a bullet designed to maximize the SRH cylinder. I've done that pretty much since the 480 hit the market.

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That said, while you can push 400's over 1300 fps, I find the 1200 fps loads much more enjoyable to shoot, and when I can consistently put a cylinder full in 1" at 50 yds, I call it good. I found going over 21 gr of H-110 and 1200 fps my groups opened up.

An extra 100 fps doesn't sound like much, but pushing 400 gr in a handgun you can feel a significant increase in recoil with that additional velocity. That and I figure any situation that I'd want more than 400 @ 1200 fps will be answered by a large rifle, not a more powerful harder kicking handgun.

[hunter74]

What diameter do you size your 475 Linebaugh or 480 Ruger to?

I have a friend that sizes to 475. Seems a bit on the small side to me, but he claims it works perfect with a 380 gr boolit without gc.

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[osteodoc08]

I think everyone has touched on the mistique of the 480 Ruger. It’s definitely underrated. It’s not too big, not too small, and in reality handles any situation I would need a big bore to handle.

[Tom W.]

Mine was fun.... but the cast boolits @ one ounce apiece was draining my lead supply.

[daloper]

This is what got me into casting. Factory rounds for the 480 are over double what they were when I purchased mine.

[Eagle59]

You can shoot the Ruger 480 out of the 475 Linebaugh but not the other way around.


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[dhom]

Will the 480 ruger sbh shoot 475 linebaugh ?
No, actually it is just the opposite. The guns chambered In 475 L will chamber 480's. Yes there are great gunsmiths that can rechamber revolvers to do this. The difference in performance between the 2 isn't really that much. I believe most people that own a 475L will tell you recoil starts to get a little past tolerable when you are loading bullets of 400 gr and heavier past 1200 fps. Those type of loads are pretty much where the 480 ends and the 475L takes over. Unless you have a special need for the max power you will be well served with the 480.

[Ramjet-SS]

Best load I have for the 480 Ruger is 370 Grain HP GC from a Mihec mould. Loaded to around 950-1000 FPS it hits hard and does good damage and the wad cutter drive deep. No recoil issues either. I use Universal powder. If I am out of that Unique works just as well. I have two lever guns in 480 and some Encore barrels they shoot this load very accurately and the wet newsprint tests when compared to performers was impressive. I am not enamoured with beating myself up with recoil any more.

[Rug480]

480 was the reason i got into reloading and casting, jumped into the caliber via trade without much research on it, was looking for a 454 as i heard the 480 was near extinct but man am i glad i chanced the 480.

as others mentioned its just behind the 475L, shoot I played on Mountainmolds and ordered a WLN 440gr for my super redhawk, .5 nose with enough room for 23gr W296, think about 1150-1200fps. might've been able to get 24 but i used Hogue wood grips for those 440's and that recoil is plain brutal, the DA bottlenecks every bit of recoil into the web of your hand, like high fiving a 2x4 each time, with a running start. But that Super Redhawk kept on eating those carts.

Sold off the SRH for a SBH Bisley, tweaked the 440 to a 435gr with a shorter nose for the recessed cylinder. I loved that Redhawk but man the bisley is just perfect for me. Even got lucky with nicely fitted grips.

[jdb3]

Love my 480, if you can't kill it with 6-410gr bullets at 1200fps you are in big trouble already. John Taffin killed an American bison with a 410gr 475 bullet at 1000fps. He hit it in the front shoulder at 60 yards and the bullet stopped on the far side just under the skin. Now that is penetration you can live with. As Mike Venturino says (paraphrasing here), more velocity (45-70 with 500gr bullet @ 1100 to 1200fps) only makes a bigger divot on the other side of the animal! Jim

[Ramjet-SS]

480 was the reason i got into reloading and casting, jumped into the caliber via trade without much research on it, was looking for a 454 as i heard the 480 was near extinct but man am i glad i chanced the 480.

as others mentioned its just behind the 475L, shoot I played on Mountainmolds and ordered a WLN 440gr for my super redhawk, .5 nose with enough room for 23gr W296, think about 1150-1200fps. might've been able to get 24 but i used Hogue wood grips for those 440's and that recoil is plain brutal, the DA bottlenecks every bit of recoil into the web of your hand, like high fiving a 2x4 each time, with a running start. But that Super Redhawk kept on eating those carts.

Sold off the SRH for a SBH Bisley, tweaked the 440 to a 435gr with a shorter nose for the recessed cylinder. I loved that Redhawk but man the bisley is just perfect for me. Even got lucky with nicely fitted grips.

Nice gun the recoil is ok but I am not huge fan anymore that's why I absolutely love that 370 grain GC HP around 1000 FPS. Deer I have shot drop where they stand or short sprint and fold.

[Greg S]

I load my 475 LB with MiHec 376-640s @ 1150. I can push them harder but no need since that combo will go through a steer/bison shoulder to shoulder. A 480 will reach that velocity no problem, might have to load to the higher end on the shorter barrels.

I'm presently looking for a 2 digit prefix bisvaquero for a 5 shot conversion. I plan on a 4 5/8" barrel as a packer, fixed sights, dovetail front and micarta grips. A smal easier to carry option over my 7.5" barreled FA. Discussed it with a smiff who wanted to go 475. My response was 480s fine, if I need more, I could send the cylinder back to get reamed for the londer cartridge.

[Tom W.]

It's strange, but I can handle the recoil from a SRH a lot better than a SBH.... And my encore pistol in .454 was too much......

[hunter74]

I'm the same way, Tom. I prefer Smiths and not Rugers but that's another matter. The SA Rugers do not fit me. With recoil they spins around in my hand like crazy, and the middle finger get smacked by the trigger guard. On SRH or Smiths I get another grip on the gun and it behaves better with recoil.

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[Ramjet-SS]

It's strange, but I can handle the recoil from a SRH a lot better than a SBH.... And my encore pistol in .454 was too much......

Heavy Encore and TC drive through wrist right through the elbow it hurts.....

[Loudenboomer]

In the .480 SBH I don't think the recoil is all that bad. I usually shoot the 400 lee with a full charge of AA#9. A wrap of hockey tape around my middle finger helps. Hang onto it Like your driving a pole barn spike. Be deliberate. Show it who is boss and it will be your friend!:)