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waco
09-20-2014, 01:10 AM
Has anyone ever used this mold? I'm thinking of it as a main stay in my Smith 29 and also my Ruger SBH.

I would love to hear from anyone who has had any luck with this mold.

Waco.

waco
09-20-2014, 01:41 AM
Crimp groove to nose is .365" I believe this should fit a Smith 29 cylinder, right?

waco
09-20-2014, 01:45 AM
http://www.accuratemolds.com/bullet_detail.php?bullet=43-250V-D.png

35 Whelen
09-20-2014, 02:53 AM
I've never used one, but....damn....looks like an "almost" wadcutter to me!!

waco
09-20-2014, 10:51 AM
I've never used one, but....damn....looks like an "almost" wadcutter to me!!

I know. Pretty sweet huh!?

GLL
09-21-2014, 12:20 AM
waco:

I had Tom modify the 43-250V by cutting off a bit of its nose to make me the 43-235V.
I use it in 3" and 4" S&W 624 .44Specials out to 25-30 yards with nice results. It is indeed "wadcutter-like"

http://www.fototime.com/4413639EAC1B3FB/standard.jpg

Jerry

waco
09-21-2014, 12:30 AM
How do you like it? I'm sure this will be my new go to mold in my. 29.

35remington
09-21-2014, 04:27 AM
The extra wide meplat may make it stability/accuracy challenged at longer ranges.

waco
09-21-2014, 11:05 AM
The extra wide meplat may make it stability/accuracy challenged at longer ranges.

50 yards? 100 yards?

35remington
09-21-2014, 10:03 PM
100 yards might be stretching things. 50 should be okay.

Outpost75
09-21-2014, 10:55 PM
The extra wide meplat may make it stability/accuracy challenged at longer ranges.

Yes! I had this problem with 45-240A which is of similar shape. Shoots fine at 25, but grouping at 50 yards was not in Proportion to range, groups went from 2" at 25 to 6" at 50 and from my 1894 Cowboy it would not stay on a silhouette at 100.

44MAG#1
09-22-2014, 04:21 PM
I am probably dumb but I would have measured a sized case and added the nose length to get OAL and then compared that to a Smith cylinder.
Of course I am simple minded.

waco
09-22-2014, 04:49 PM
I am probably dumb but I would have measured a sized case and added the nose length to get OAL and then compared that to a Smith cylinder.
Of course I am simple minded.

Lol. Sometimes I just don't see the obvious! :)

DrCaveman
09-22-2014, 09:40 PM
Waco

I just got an accurate 43-260v a few weeks ago, ive been shooting the hell out of it and loving every minute

http://www.accuratemolds.com/bullet_detail.php?bullet=43-260V-D.png

Very similar to the one you are looking at, but a bit longer nose. Not sure if it would fit the model 29. Id be willing to give you a few to try out, but i should tell you that i water drop them to a bhn of about 25. Been putting about 22 grains h110 behind them, life is good

Let me know if trying these would be useful to you

cainttype
09-22-2014, 10:11 PM
I'm not sure why measuring a fired case would be necessary. I'd hope that if you're reloading you would already know the length parameters of the cartridge. Adding the nose length will, however, tell you whether it's a good candidate for the cylinder you want to use.

DrCaveman
09-22-2014, 11:01 PM
I'm not sure why measuring a fired case would be necessary. I'd hope that if you're reloading you would already know the length parameters of the cartridge. Adding the nose length will, however, tell you whether it's a good candidate for the cylinder you want to use.

Notice he said a 'sized' case, which would be a tad longer than a fired case, and in any event, it the case you are using, regardless of cartrdge specs (unless you trim-to-length, then it's saami). So that is the length that matters.

I sure as shootin have NOT memorized the case lengths of all the cartridges i shoot, i think there are far better numbers to commit to memory, such as 2400, 4198, 4895, 4064, 4756, 4759, 4350, 414, 3031, 4227, 1680 etc. Knowing what each of those numbers means, and how to use that knowledge with other (quantity) numbers is far better use of brain space, to me.

Another contention with 44mag#1: you're not dumb. Your posts are good, despite any self deprecation you choose to deliver. I appreciate when you chime in, thanks for doing so

cainttype
09-23-2014, 06:40 AM
Max case length is reloading 101. If you're not paying attention to that and trim lengths you present a danger to yourself, and anyone nearby, when you're discharging your reloads.
Basic case prep begins with sizing and checking length. Everything else follows.
Even NEW casings are often out of round and have mouths that aren't square. Sizing, measuring, and trimming if necessary (for length or to square up) should be basic habits long before a person contemplates casting.
Maximum case length is the defining measurement here.

waco
09-23-2014, 11:16 AM
DrCaveman. Thanks for the input, and the offer.

44MAG#1
09-23-2014, 11:36 AM
"Another contention with 44mag#1: you're not dumb."

I was NOT inferring that he is dumb. I am sure that IQ wise he is much smarter than me. BUT sometimes in my experience the high IQ'ers sometimes lets their edumacation stand in the way of common sense.
This is what I think happened here so he flys to the forum to get help.
Nothing wrong with that for sure.
Remember: IQ+Commonsense+logic=the total sum.
"cainttype" sounds like you are really on top of everything. Glad your input keeps us old people grounded.

cainttype
09-23-2014, 01:17 PM
44MAG#1, there was no slight intended towards you. If you felt there was, please accept my apology.
By the way, I am one of the old guys.
Have a great day. :)

DrCaveman
09-24-2014, 02:51 AM
I am probably dumb but I would have measured a sized case and added the nose length to get OAL and then compared that to a Smith cylinder.
Of course I am simple minded.

This is the quote i was referencing, i apologize for not formally quoting. I was telling YOU, 44mag#1, that YOU are not dumb. No accusations against you. Respect would increase with a reduction in defensiveness, pre, or post-snarky replies from others.

Caintype

I own trim-gauges from lee, and i use them sometimes. I dont whip out the old calipers after every damn sized case. As 44mag#1 states, IQ + commonsense + logic = the right way to do things

Really, you square and trim EVERY case you load, all calibers? And you still dare attend a public range?

cainttype
09-24-2014, 07:04 AM
DrCaveman, "if necessary". If you want to take things out of context the discussion is pointless.
Not everyone reading these forums has enough experience to be turned loose at a loading bench. Disregarding that fact is a bad idea, IMO.
With the question at hand, suitability of a given projectile design to fit two different type revolver cylinders, maximum case length IS the correct answer.
Since some cases will be trimmed shorter than others, and the potential lengthening of a casing through use (as you stated) is ever-present, maximum case length should be used.
I agree with you, "IQ + common sense + logic = the right way to do things".

DrCaveman
09-24-2014, 10:41 AM
Points taken. Saami case length and OAL means the round should fit in any firearm chambered in that cartridge. And non-uniform case lengths have surely affected accuracy for me, and wreaked havoc with crimping.

Your advice is great for reloading in general