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jayjay1
09-12-2014, 04:29 PM
Hey guys!

I´m looking for the heaviest bullet mold I can get for my 9mm Luger.
Unfortunately, on the opposite, my CZ 75 Shadow has a very short chamber.

But with the right bullet profile it works.
I´ve used ARES 153grainers in the past with pretty much success!
http://www.ipscstore.eu/de/ares-bullets/617-ares-bullets-9mm-153-gr.html

Now I´m cruising around this Accurate mold since a while:
http://www.accuratemolds.com/bullet_detail.php?bullet=35-155D-D.png

Not knowing if I should or if I should not.
The nose is shorter and not so flat, OAL is shorter too, what means more weight in the case and less outside.

My brass mouth is almost aligned with the bullets shoulder when chambered.
That means almost 0,32" in the case.

Will it work?

Thompsoncustom
09-12-2014, 04:38 PM
I also have a shadow. I would say get a throat reamer and a lee 160gr 6 cavity mold. I can also run the lyman 168gr SWC but it doesn't work to well with bullet coatings has to be lube only not sure what route your taking.

Also not a bad idea to get a lee FCD and some diamond lapping compound. I'm guessing your bore is .3555 so if you open the FCD enough that it doesn't undersize .3565 bullets you'll be golden. The bases will mostly all be undersized but that's never caused me any problems. With these long bullets and the tapered case you can cause some bulging I just use the FCD to fix the case.

Outpost75
09-12-2014, 08:30 PM
I use Accurate 36-155D in the 9mm. My buddy in Italy uses it in his 9 x21s.

It was designed by Ed Harris for the 9mm, 9x21 and .38 Super. We had molds cut in different calibers using the same form relief cutter, just adjusting for the bullet diameter. These are listed in the catalog as 31-114D for the .32 S&W Long, .32 H&R Mag. and also for use as a "Cast Sneeze" bullet in .30 and .303 rifles with 4 grains of Bullseye, 43-225D for the .44-40, .44 Magnum and .44 Special, and 45-245D for the .45 Auto Rim, Schofield and .45 Colt.

You want to cast your chamber and order a mold to fit the chamber throat, NOT barrel groove diameter.

A .357 bullet is correct for most nines. This makes a good bullet for the .38 Special also.

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jayjay1
09-13-2014, 01:49 AM
Thanks guys, for your response and will to help.

@Thompsoncustom:
"Get a reamer" - ok, but this one should fit my chamber, not?
I´m not a "metall" guy, would you tell me where to get the right tool?

@Outpost75:
The item you are showing has again a shorter nose as mine above and even more than the ARES.
The full-dia-length is .345", above .32" and with the ARES something about 0,31".

That means, that your item has the most weight in the brass and less outside, what is bad for the pressure thingy, especially in the small 9mm, not?

just_shooter
09-13-2014, 02:20 AM
Hi, jayjay1!
I just built this design 35-155D with Tom's help ofcourse, exactly for my CZ SP-01 Shadow. According to my experience this should be the biggest bullet that will chamber in Shadow and will seat effortlessly in the brass. My mold is on the way so soon I'm gonna understand if I'm right.:D

just_shooter
09-13-2014, 02:52 AM
That means, that your item has the most weight in the brass and less outside, what is bad for the pressure thingy, especially in the small 9mm, not?

Never heart of that.
I've been using for years these two molds:
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/233874/rcbs-2-cavity-bullet-mold-9mm-147-fn-9mm-356-diameter-147-grain-flat-nose?cm_vc=ProductFinding
http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/product_info.php?cPath=34&products_id=443&osCsid=d0f0lq78ajgvims07qtos7ung3

Both have most of the weigth inside the brass.

Thompsoncustom
09-13-2014, 09:45 AM
Brownell's sells "throat" reamers.

The throat reamer doesn't change your chamber but extends the Throat so you can seat longer bullets.

I guess it depends on what your doing it you would really need one or not if I remember right that use cheap or the easiest thing to use. You can also take your bullet to a good gun smith and have them ream the to fit the bullet and OAL you want.

For maximum weight groove less would be the way to go. So whats your reasoning for wanting such a heavy bullet? Do you need to make power factor for one of the shooting sports?

jayjay1
09-13-2014, 06:21 PM
So whats your reasoning for wanting such a heavy bullet? Do you need to make power factor for one of the shooting sports?

Exactly.

dnotarianni
09-13-2014, 06:52 PM
JayJay1 Just get a standard 9mm mold and use depleted uranium Should get you to 250-300 grains

Dave

tazman
09-14-2014, 08:56 AM
I picked up a Lyman 358212. It drops boolits at .359 diameter and 148 grains for me. The nose profile makes it load just under the max OAL for 9mm and gives clearance for the throat. There is as little as possible of the boolit inside the case given the weight making heavier charges possible.
I have no issues with feeding this boolit but I have a generous throat on my 9mm.

Outpost75
09-14-2014, 10:44 AM
The .245" seating depth of 36-155D is the same as RWS 123-grain hardball.

tazman
09-14-2014, 11:49 AM
The .245" seating depth of 36-155D is the same as RWS 123-grain hardball.

According to the diagram the .245 seating depth only works if you are seating/crimping in the crimp groove. There is another .1 inch of flat above there before the nose begins to taper that will need to be inside the case for a tight 9mm throat. That makes the seating depth .345.