short ter round for levers?

[bushka]

I would like a henry that actually held like 18rounds,that means new elevator,
and a shorter round.
455 eley/auto rim length 45colt case cutdown to size,but I think the only candidate for this would be an 1892 winnie.

same idea as the aguila 12ga mini shells.

thanks for ideas.

B

[runfiverun]

45 schofield works also
the 44 mag in a 92 will run specials and russians
18 rounds you'll need a 24" bbl at least and wheels to roll all that lead around

[Four Fingers of Death]

CAS City has a guy who converts 45Colts to a shorter version for shooting BP. The 45Colt case doesn't seal off in the chamber very well apparently and you get blow by with BP. The conversion means you end up with a 45 'Special' Do a search. If you can't find it do a search under Dick Dastardly, he was involved in it from memory. How many shots do the 73s in 44Special hold?

I wouldn't mind doing a lever gun in 45ACP, that would be cool!

[StrawHat]

The conversion means you end up with a 45 'Special'

I wouldn't mind doing a lever gun in 45ACP, that would be cool!

The 45 Special has a head the size of the 45 Colt but the length is the same as the 45 ACp.

http://www.cowboy45special.com/cowboy45brass.html

You use the shellholder for the Long Colt and the loading dies for the ACP.

Neat idea.

In a 73 you ought be able to block the carrier to accept the shorter length cartridge with little additional work.

Good Luck

[Pepe Ray]

4fingermick;
You've struck a nerve w/me.
I 've been lusting for a 45ACP. L/A carbine since July '83, when an article by Bob Snapp appeared in the American Rifleman. He told of building such a beauty for Ed Harris. (Home based on Cast BulletAssn. forum) Since then I've spoken w/Snapp and Harris about it. So-- I'm looking for a used Marlin M94 in 45Colt. I'm sure I'll hafta sell an organ before I'm thru.
Pepe Ray

[runfiverun]

if we could talk starline into making 45 auto-rim brass with the colts thinner rim?
that would be a pretty efficient way to get some firepower
if anybody could swing something like this i would take like 500 pieces or so

runfiverun

[Slowpoke]

http://www.castbulletassoc.org/forum/view_topic.php?id=535&forum_id=18

[Pepe Ray]

There's already a CAS member/shooter who's got those "45 short" for sale.
I don't have a link for his website, but it should be easy to find.
Reasonably priced too as I recall.
Pepe Ray

[bushka]

blocking the carrier?, I assume that means a [kinda]U shaped plate affixed in the elevator rear?
years ago I had an uberti henri full length pondering the idea,but for 44-40`s bottleneck,wasnt worth it.
I being a toolmaker looked it over and said not this one.
But in 45 straightwall there is a possibility.

What is the oal of a 45 special round loaded?, so I can figure my capacity over a
full length 1892 in 45lc?

B











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[Dale53]

Capacity and overall length of the .45 Cowboy Special is EXACTLY the same as the .45 ACP. Rim is identical to the .45 Colt. I have used a good number of them for another project gun. Good cases and they work well. They are also priced competitively.

Dale53

[runfiverun]

found them
exactly as asked for

runfiverun

[bushka]

these shorter rounds feed off the tube okay? which guns?

I`m thinking a 45gap rimmed.

B









:coffee:

[Scrounger]

Wouldn't the simplest way be to chamber for .45AR? Altering the extractor shouldn't be that bad....

[StrawHat]

Here is the link again

http://www.cowboy45special.com/cowboy45brass.html

this is an ACP length case with the head size of the 45 Long Colt.

It will work in all the currently 45 Long Colt chambered guns but feeding may have to be tweaked.

OAL is the same as with the ACP and whatever bullet you are using.

[WyrTwister]

The 45 Special has a head the size of the 45 Colt but the length is the same as the 45 ACp.

http://www.cowboy45special.com/cowboy45brass.html

You use the shellholder for the Long Colt and the loading dies for the ACP.

Neat idea.

In a 73 you ought be able to block the carrier to accept the shorter length cartridge with little additional work.

Good Luck

Doesn't that make it a second cousin to the .45 Auto Rim ?

God bless
wyr

[StrawHat]

Doesn't that make it a second cousin to the .45 Auto Rim ?

God bless
wyr

Way I see it, it is the justification for the moniker of 45 Long Colt that some insist is fictitious!

But yes, it is akin to the 45 AR, the 45 ACP and 45 Schofield. Probably a couple others I have forgotten.

[runfiverun]

think of it as a 45 special

have cut down some colt cases and used 160 gr boolits these are great for bunnies etc

runfiverun

[yarro]

My buddy shoots .45 Schofields in one of his lever guns. The other has feeding problems if he uses them in it. I also think that he loads them to a shorter OAL than .45 Long Colt, but a longer OAL than .45 Schofield. He shoots black and the shorter round let him get one more round in his carbine so that he can get ten in there for Cowboy Action Shooting.

-Yarro

[wonderwolf]

Wouldn't the simplest way be to chamber for .45AR? Altering the extractor shouldn't be that bad....

My thoughts as well.

[Pepe Ray]

There are several options. Of course you can re chamber/adapt to 45AR. If ALL you want is a shorter ctg, to extend your capacity. That's not tops on my criteria list.
I'm looking to reduce my variety of stock and cartridge supply w/o changing the preferred performance level. The 45ACP is very high on my list of preferred ctgs. If your not a buff then your probably not familiar with its many good points.
If I live long enough, I'll have a 45ACP Marlin LA. :coffee:
Pepe Ray