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ohland
08-23-2014, 06:01 PM
Sounds like a joke... but really, a pig walks into a bar...

I have a pound of H4831SC from a never completed preperation to load for the .264 Win Mag (gods above, a 26" full bull Encore barrel in 264WM! Can you imagine beating a Grizzly to death with just the barrel?).

I want to run an RCBS 7mm-145-SIL about 1,100-1,400 in my 7-30 Waters T/C Contender Carbine WITHOUT beating it to death. I just czeched Lyman's 4th Ed CBH, and they don't list either flavor of 4831....

Anyone with a similar powder / boolit / case combination? Similar weight boolit, like 135 to 160-ish grains. It can be somewhat faster, but I don't expect to go hunting with it.. yet...

runfiverun
08-24-2014, 12:34 AM
34 grs in the 30-30 is nearly compressed and gives 1800 fps with either a 150 or 170 gr boolit.
it burns surprisingly clean too, but is on the ragged edge of just working.

11-1400 fps might be a bit too far down the scale for this one.
if I were to try [had no other options]
I'd have to go with a fairly hot primer and a tuft of Dacron to try and get the powder to burn.

Rick B
08-24-2014, 12:25 PM
I suggest you read P O Ackley's comments about shooting reduced loads with slow burning powders. He contributed most action failures to this phenomenon.
Rick B

runfiverun
08-24-2014, 09:06 PM
yep to the BULLET stopping in the barrel and the powder building up pressure behind it.

ohland
08-24-2014, 10:32 PM
yep to the BULLET stopping in the barrel and the powder building up pressure behind it.

Well heck, I was going to stuff it with Bullseye until I remembered that bottle of H4831SC. Maybe I can breech seat a 145-SIL in front of a 120gr Nosler Ballistic tip. Who wants popcorn?

ohland
08-24-2014, 10:47 PM
I suggest you read P O Ackley's comments about shooting reduced loads with slow burning powders. He contributed most action failures to this phenomenon.
Rick B

So what wouldn't be a reduced capacity load of 4831 in the 7-30?

bobthenailer
08-25-2014, 07:20 AM
My choice would be slow burning pistol powder or fast burning rifle powder !

Ben
08-25-2014, 07:43 AM
Lyman's 4th Ed CBH, and they don't list either flavor of 4831....

Ummm , could be a real good reason for them not listing it.

ohland
08-25-2014, 09:50 AM
Lyman's 4th Ed CBH, and they don't list either flavor of 4831....

Ummm , could be a real good reason for them not listing it.

Heck, then let's do a duplex load. Some super fast pistol powder to start everything, followed by some real slow stuff for 50 caliber. Pop in a magnum primer for spice. Maybe grease the brass so it shoots faster?

:kidding: