Buttstock Cartridge Traps

[DeanWinchester]

Anyone have one like the one made by New England Custom Gun?
Pictures would be very nice of you

Anyone know who might have the ability to install on that wouldnt require selling a kidney to pay for?
I have a junk stock that I can use to practice on, of the same make and shape.

I'm thinking my H&R classic carbine in .454 casull would sport one of these quite well. Its a shame they cost almost as much as they gun though. LOL!

[OuchHot!]

You might google and search gunsmithing lists on other forum. I think that you could fabricate such a trap quite easily. Mark Penrod would do a fine job installing the trap but I wouldn't get too attached to that kidney.

[kootne]

I've got an old pair of books called "Modern Gunsmithing 1 & 2" by James Howe. In volume 2, page258 is a section on making and mounting a pistol grip trap using an '03 Springfield buttplate w/trap as the basis. I think if you are good with your hands you could make a very nice one this way. Don't know what those buttplates bring these days but they used to be a $.10/12

kootne


Now I re-read your post and see you are looking for a buttplate not pistol grip trap. My bad. However right after the section on pistol grip traps is a page or 2 about making buttplates, both cast and fabricated from steel sheet. The steel sheet section describes checkering in milling machine and making simple forming dies to 3D contour it after checkering.

[GoodOlBoy]

Been thinking about the same thing for awhile. I saw this picture on one of the gun magazine sites awhile back and held onto a copy of it.
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[DeanWinchester]

Thats gorgeous.

features like this are old world classy.

[williamwaco]

Been thinking about the same thing for awhile. I saw this picture on one of the gun magazine sites awhile back and held onto a copy of it.
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I have seen those on old rifles. Mostly German. I was always impressed with the workmanship but never thought about the functionality.

That is on the bottom of the buttstock. If you are opening it for a second shot at a buck, what prevents all four rounds from falling on the ground.

[TES]

I have seen those on old rifles. Mostly German. I was always impressed with the workmanship but never thought about the functionality.

That is on the bottom of the buttstock. If you are opening it for a second shot at a buck, what prevents all four rounds from falling on the ground.


Just throwing this out there but....your hand in warmer climates and a gloved hand here.

[pietro]

I have seen those on old rifles. Mostly German. I was always impressed with the workmanship but never thought about the functionality.

That is on the bottom of the buttstock. If you are opening it for a second shot at a buck, what prevents all four rounds from falling on the ground.


Well, they not usually opened with the trap door facing downward - the rifle is rotated so the cartridges can be withdrawn from a horizintal position or inverted so they can be withdrawn straight "up".

There are two or three types of buttplate cartridge traps:

* The entire BP is a hinged cover, mounted onto a full-contour baseplate:

http://www.hallowellco.com/sodia-vierling-trapdoor-but.jpg

* The center of the BP has a smaller hinged trap door built into it:

http://www.hallowellco.com/G+H-206-buttplate.jpg

* A hole to pass cartridges is drilled through the existing BP, and the wooden end of the butt is partially relieved/inletted for a sheet metal door or a reworked BP spacer that is pivoted/withdrawn to the side to expose the cartridge(s) in storage:

http://www.beartoothbullets.com/images/tech_photos/camper-butt-stock.gif


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[Artful]

so besides your NECG
http://www.midwayusa.com/find?dimensionids=1218

My Enfield #4 that's converted to 45 acp has a brass plate
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8RPu4soL7cQ/T6AT9MZCVxI/AAAAAAAACIA/yjXjoKNSJio/s1600/6195a+%281%29.JPG
Inside the hole in the stock I put a tube that's the right diameter to hold 45 ACP ammo
- and an foam ear plug to quiet the ammo while out in the field (rattle reducer).

originally the military had plans for it.
http://www.kirkemmerich.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/SMLE-f209-019.jpg

Savage's Model 24 survival had storeage
http://www.beartoothbullets.com/images/tech_photos/camper-butt-stock.gif
simple swivel door under the butt plate exposing the holes for ammo storage.
http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k527/OkieRob2/photobucket-46870-1364270254299_zps62dcb8a3.jpg

nice slide show about installing one
http://www.justincustomguns.com/current-projects/waffenfabrik-hein-take-down

In “The Art of the Rifle”, pages 88-89, Cooper shows how to reload single rounds from a spring-loaded magazine in the bottom of the stock. He mentions that they were made by John Mahan, Chino Valley, AZ.

In Cooper’s Commentaries Vol. 7, No. 3, March, 1999, he states: “…These items were made by John Mahan of Chino Valley, Arizona, and I cannot promise that he is set up to repeat them…”

If my memory serves, the Clifton scout rifle had a similar set up. But I think Clifton is out of business.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2641/4085644987_65eedeed9a_o.jpg

Brockman’s Rifles offers a similar design.
Brockman's Cartridge Traps
- All aluminum with a black finish,
allows shooter to extract and load one round at a time without taking eyes off of the target.
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk271/zgunbear/MYDC0032.jpg
http://www.brockmansrifles.com/Images/c_trap3.jpg
http://www.brockmansrifles.com/Images/c_trap3_closed.jpg
http://www.brockmansrifles.com/Images/birch_lam_stock.jpg
http://www.brockmansrifles.com/other_access.asp

from the outback down under
http://www.wilddog.com.au/ showed up in a online search but website seems TKO'd
The company had/has tilt out ammo carrier.

German entry
http://www.recknagel.de/Joomla/images/stories/Downloads/Zubehoer-8-2013-web.pdf
see page 16

I remember looking at a Gun Digest book in which tommy bish shows how to make one from scrap and black iron pipe.