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Rafe Covington
01-27-2008, 06:18 PM
I have encore barrels in 32-40,38-55,45-70 and 50-90. I think I want a 40 caliber cartridge to fit between the 38-55 and 45-70, I was wondering what you folks opinion of the .40-82 was. I was considering the 40-70 Straight but want to consider all options as funds are always limited, it will be in a 28 inch barrel if that matters. Thank You in advance for any info given.:drinks:

4060MAY
01-27-2008, 07:27 PM
.405 Win
everything is available over the counter.
or shorten to 2.5" 40-70 SS

6pt-sika
01-27-2008, 08:25 PM
I have both a 40-82 and a 40-65 .

Both of mine are in old Marlin lever actions . But if I were going to get one in an Encore barrel I believe I would go with the 40-65 .

The brass thing should not be an issue . As you can get Starline 40-65 brass , as well as Starline 45-90 brass which you can neck down to 40-82 .

Also I believe Jamison's also makes 40-82 brass .

Personally I like them both ! But I think the cheaper way to go would be the 40-65 !!

Rafe Covington
01-31-2008, 03:34 PM
I want to thank both of you guys for you answers, think I am goin to go with the 40-82. Appreciate it thank you.:drinks:

Don McDowell
01-31-2008, 04:15 PM
The 405 is a pretty easy cartridge to load for, and with ready made brass available, plus last I looked its a standard barrel in the Encore, that's the way I'ld go.

You can form 82 cartridges from 45-90 brass, so that's not much of a problem but still a bit spendy. As good as the Lyman 412263 bullet works in both the 405 and the 40-65 for me I'ld imagine it'll do well in the 82 also.

bearcove
01-31-2008, 08:36 PM
You must be single if you think there is a gap in there that needs filling!

I'm busy buying bb guns and 22's. Ha Ha!

vynshah
04-09-2008, 12:17 PM
I reload for an old friend who has a gorgeous old Model 1886 in .40-82. The originals were what were termed "express" rifles in that they shot a light boolit at high velocity (for BP). The original bore diamater was .406 not .408/.410 that most modern made .40's use. Many new40-82's end up with the bigger bore which is fine if you have the right expander plug. My dies are C-H and have the correct expander for .406 bullets.

strangwn
05-27-2008, 04:40 PM
I also have had an interest in .40-82 for the last several months. It all started when my son reported that he had found an old .40-82 case in a remote roadless area in the Montana mountains. Shortly after that I saw an RCBS die set on an auction site and had to buy it. So now I feel some sort of obligation to find a rifle to go with the dies.
My interest is primarily in a single-shot or a bolt action? and I assume that the Encore is a viable option, but I am seeking advice about other options. I envision a scoped rifle for conversation, rock busting, and maybe hunting, all with smokeless powder, cast and/or j-boolits.
Years ago some gunsmith friends always talked about building .45-70 rifles with Siamese Mauser actions. Is that action length too short for .40-82?
Any other thoughts or ideas? Don't really want to spend a lot of money, but normally am willing to spend twice as much as my initial thinking.

Boz330
05-28-2008, 08:40 AM
If you want cheap I'd forget the 40-82. I have an 86 Winny and while you can get formed brass it isn't cheap. And if you are going to form it yourself the basic brass is still pretty expensive. I'm not sure if 45-90 brass is even long enough to form it from. I used 45-100 and 110 brass to form mine. For smokeless it is an awfully big case and if you fill it up recoil is going to be extremely stout. I'm not sure if the case will cycle through a Siamese Mauser, it is pretty long. A single shot is probably your best bet.
It was originally a black powder round why not shoot it that way. Some of the long range guys are using a similar round called the 40-82 Crossno. I'm not terribly familiar with it but I beleive all they did was put a pronounced neck on it for even boolit retention. Some of the other guys might have more info than me on that.

Bob

strangwn
05-28-2008, 05:06 PM
If you want cheap I'd forget the 40-82. I have an 86 Winny and while you can get formed brass it isn't cheap. And if you are going to form it yourself the basic brass is still pretty expensive. I'm not sure if 45-90 brass is even long enough to form it from. I used 45-100 and 110 brass to form mine. For smokeless it is an awfully big case and if you fill it up recoil is going to be extremely stout. I'm not sure if the case will cycle through a Siamese Mauser, it is pretty long. A single shot is probably your best bet.
It was originally a black powder round why not shoot it that way. Some of the long range guys are using a similar round called the 40-82 Crossno. I'm not terribly familiar with it but I beleive all they did was put a pronounced neck on it for even boolit retention. Some of the other guys might have more info than me on that.

Bob
Thanks, Bob. I won't rule out the black powder route. What boolits do you shoot? Do you load any j-boolits? I'm not too concerned about the brass expense. Have any leads on where I can find a single-shot that someone is tired of? I don't yet have enough posts to be able to start a WTB .40-82 thread. I'm sending you a PM.

Bill

Boz330
05-28-2008, 07:26 PM
My 40-82 is a lever action 1886 Winchester and the barrel was shot out and I had Redmon's reline it. The liner is an 18 twist which is quite a bit faster than the original. I use a 350gr boolit, the same one I use in my 40-65. The original was a 240gr boolit. The original barrels were also .406 groove diameter, not .408. I have never tried jacketed but 41 mag bullets would work if you ran them through a size die. That is what I did to breakin my new 40-65 barrel.
Don't have any leads on any single shots in that caliber but you could have a
40-65 rechambered if you could find one of those. Here is a web site that occassionally has things come up for sale.

http://www.bpcr.net/index-a.htm

Bob