Trail Boss, my pet powder

[nekshot]

My seventeen year old son is taking a 54 winny in 270 for deer and for trigger time with the gun I told him to use 10 grain of trail boss. I don't have to woory about him making a mistake! What a powder! I don't even miss the powders they are threatening to stop making, well I am trying to tell myself I won't miss them! But Trail Boss will do!

[GoodOlBoy]

I use trail boss the way some folks use water... All of my straight walls seems to love it, some of my bottlenecks seem to like it for reduced recoil loads, and I have had nothing but great things to say for accuracy with it. The single proviso is that you MUST have a good crimp for trail boss to be consistent. These "light crimp" gurus typically hate it, and with good reason. If you can't put a good crimp on a trail boss load, you can't get a good load out of it.

GoodOlBoy

[bangerjim]

I have TrailBoss and have used it in 223's with great success with a Bator 55gn. More power than a 22lr and much better accuracy! That is one of my 5 22lr-like loads I use (not buying 22's at current $$!).

The other day I shot 20 of them and was getting <1" at 60 yards with that lite load.

I also use it in 45LC's and 38SPL's with great success.

I like TB.........if you can find it today!!!!!!!! Watch those bottles......they only contain 9oz of powder! Tricky....tricky....tricky!

banger

[00buck]

Yep. .45LC and .38spl shoot nice with Trailboss

and you can't double charge without spilling over

[DeanWinchester]

I use trail boss the way some folks use water... All of my straight walls seems to love it, some of my bottlenecks seem to like it for reduced recoil loads, and I have had nothing but great things to say for accuracy with it. The single proviso is that you MUST have a good crimp for trail boss to be consistent. These "light crimp" gurus typically hate it, and with good reason. If you can't put a good crimp on a trail boss load, you can't get a good load out of it.

GoodOlBoy


The one place I've had good results and no crimp with TB is my little Handi Rifle in .454. I use a boolit that engages the rifling fairly hard. I use no crimp. It shoots very well. Funny thing about Trail Boss. You can work up a load the likes of which you just can't get out of other powders.

One of my favorites, although not EXTREMELY accurate, it's accurate enough was a (454 Casull rifle) .455g NEI boolit over 5.0g of Trail Boss. You'd swear before the supreme court I was shooting a suppressed rifle. It's a hoot!!

[GoodOlBoy]

Makes sense to me dean, I could probably do the same thing in my handi 45-70 with my 500gr mold. Hadn't thought about it, but sounds like something to be tested one of these days.

GoodOlBoy

[DeanWinchester]

Makes sense to me dean, I could probably do the same thing in my handi 45-70 with my 500gr mold. Hadn't thought about it, but sounds like something to be tested one of these days.

GoodOlBoy

Yeah, I played a mean trick at the range recently with Trail Boss. I let a young'un there try the .454 Casull Handi Rifle with a bunny fart Trail Boss load.......then gave his dad a (near max) Win296 load. The guy made some comment about it being awful small for that much recoil and his boy told him he was a wuss. Lol!!

[nekshot]

I found TB to be very accurate in my 7 remmag last fall when I was simply shooting for trigger time. Made me wonder if it works as well in other large containers as well.I was shooting very slow, as I find as a rule this powder really can give nice little groups when going slow.

[gtgeorge]

I found TB to be very accurate in my 7 remmag last fall when I was simply shooting for trigger time. Made me wonder if it works as well in other large containers as well.I was shooting very slow, as I find as a rule this powder really can give nice little groups when going slow.
What was your recipe for that 7remmag? I am working on the same right now and found 18gr YB + my 180gr 168rcbs boolit combo the best so far but have just begun.

[Dframe]

I use Trail Boss in nearly ALL of my straight walls. Works just great. My favorite loads in 44 special and 45 Colt use 200 grain rnfp boolits and Trail Boss. They're shoot all day loads that just never seem to tire you out.

[nekshot]

What was your recipe for that 7remmag? I am working on the same right now and found 18gr YB + my 180gr 168rcbs boolit combo the best so far but have just begun.

10 gr Tb with the Lee Soupcan Boolit(135gr) regular primers 3/4 inch groubs at 80 yards with out the BOOOM !

[plainsman456]

Shot some more last weekend with my 45-70 Marlin.
Less than 2in groups at 100 with 16.0 grains and a 325 boolit.
Even took the chrono out to test speeds and they were going 1342 fps.

It does make up some special loads when you have someone trying out the 45-70 for the first time and thing that they will be pushes back into yesterday.:bigsmyl2:
What some people call you when they shoot them will make a sailor blush.

[gtgeorge]

WOW never thought of going that low. Slower than I wanted bt nice to know a plinking load can be done that light and slow.

[Blanco]

I shoot a reduced TB load in 45ACP
It will hit paper out to about 15 yds and cycle the action, but sounds like an air gun in my carbine.

[1Shirt]

I am beginning to use more TB also!
1Shirt!

[Nrut]

Where are you fellas finding loading data using Trail Boss in the 45-70?
I can seem to find any on Hodgdon online, or their manual..
Thanks

>>>OK I found it in the Trapdoor load section, duh!

[Groo]

Groo here
My friend and I loaded for a pistol class
1/2gr under book max , 215gr SNS swc [coated] 41mag.
out of 5 different guns, the largest group was 1/2 dollar size most quarter size at 30ft [ inside]
We had such fun at the class, eating the center from the target and scaring the 9mm shooters with out "giant shells"

[texaswoodworker]

I like using it in my 44 mag Rossi 92 for cowboy loads. They are very pleasant to shoot, and pretty accurate.

[rockrat]

I had good luck with T/B in the 50 BMG under an 850gr boolit!!!!:bigsmyl2:

[303Guy]

Anyone with some 303 Brit loads? I have some and haven't gotten round to field testing it. I sounds like I need to do so. This 'plinking' load with a 325 gr boolit doing 1342 fps. That's plinking? :shock:

I'd like a supersonic load with no muzzle blast for a Brit. A light boolit (155gr) would be just fine. I do have an accurate light boolit load using Clays. But really, I want a heavier boolit load.

[Tackleberry41]

I bought a bunch of it as I can see me using quite a bit. Works really well in 45 colt loads for a 1858 with conversion cylinder in it. I just use a 45 ACP case as a scoop. I messed with subsonic loads in a 223 with TB, seems to be the one to use for that. Then found I can use TB in my 577/450 vs BP, 22gr will use up a can faster tho.

[sthwestvictoria]

Here in Australia TB comes in a 1.5kg (3.3pounds) keg only. I have used it in .243, .270, 30-30 and 35 whelen. I find it does no do as well at the higher loads closer to 100% load density. I have also taken it lower than the 70% min suggested by ADI/Hodgdon. My reasoning is it is safe to do this as TB is a fast pistol powder, slightly slower than red dot.


Then found I can use TB in my 577/450 vs BP, 22gr will use up a can faster tho.

Below is some pressure traces from TB loads in the MH, albeit at a slightly higher loading:
http://i61.tinypic.com/264g7s7.jpg



Compared to Black Powder:
http://i57.tinypic.com/2dlojyx.jpg
This is from a thread on britishmilitaria forums (http://britishmilitariaforums.yuku.com/reply/18955/Martini-Henry-Chamber-Pressures#reply-18955).

[nekshot]

303 Guy, I know I have used tb in the 303 I simply can't find the info but I saw I have 9-13 gr for the 444 w310 Lee, 7-08 at 5 gr with any boolit, 35 rem at 5gr, 7.62x39 at 6 gr(that is on the high side for me) as I go slow with this powder and I would try 7 gr in the 303Brit, but you all are on your own!

[PAT303]

Anyone with some 303 Brit loads? I have some and haven't gotten round to field testing it. I sounds like I need to do so. This 'plinking' load with a 325 gr boolit doing 1342 fps. That's plinking? :shock:

I'd like a supersonic load with no muzzle blast for a Brit. A light boolit (155gr) would be just fine. I do have an accurate light boolit load using Clays. But really, I want a heavier boolit load.
I shoot heaps of practice loads with 12grn under anything I have,291,299,413 etc.My Mk111 shoots Lymans 324366 sized .316 over 14grns into 3/4'' groups at 50m regulary. Pat

[kelbro]

Found a 5# jug of Trail Boss today along with an 8# jug of Unique. It was a good day.

[Nrut]

No lie!
Buy a lotto ticket before the sun sets..

[Del-Ray]

Hmmm, makes me want to try it with my 40-60 Winchester reproduction Winchester centennial. It's a pain in the butt to find powders for it. I guess just follow the instructions on the website to get my 100% load and then figure out the lower threshold. I think I have ten pounds of it laying around for my 44mag and 45 colt.

And using it in a 50BMG?! Well now.... I think I'll stay with my Hod. 50BMG for that.