93 mauser 7x57 mmm safety problem

[BigGun]

I have a spanish 93 rifle that I cannot engage the safety on.can take the fireing pin
assy out of bolt, compress the spring and can engage the safety, This leads me to
believe that a previous owner has modified (filed)the cocking piece that engages
the trigger, or filed the part of the trigger that engages the cocking piece, therefore
not holding the cocking piece back suffecient to be able to engage the safety to
engage the cocking piece slot for safety lever rotation to safe position.
This rifle appears to have been highly modified, Bolt turned down, all markings
removed. will likely need to replace the trigger and cocking piece. any other
suggestions???
thanks
Ted Kelley

[racepres]

Is it a stock Military trigger And / Or safety?? Pics perhaps. MV

[BigGun]

yes, the trigger is mil stock.Don't have picture capabilitiles. I just had a thought, what about
Making new slot in cocking piece for safety to engage???
Ted Kelley

[Larry Gibson]

Many shortened the sear engagement on the cocking piece in an attempt to shorten lock time. Either setting back the originsl safety engagement surface on the cocking piece back or cutting a new one will work fine. Just make sure that when the safety is engaged it moves the cocking piece slightly back disengaging the trigger sear from the cocking piece surface.

Larry Gibson

[BigGun]

Since I started this thread I have taken another look at the bolt from this rifle. The cocking piece
is a full 1/16th form being back enough to engage the safety.All of the bolt parts seem to be
unaltered, but there must be something amiss with it. I will try to find another 93 bolt
someplace and compare the parts of both to detirmine the problem with mine.
thanks all for your response.
Ted Kelley

[waksupi]

Is the bolt fully assembled?

[racepres]

This may sound odd.. and It is past my bed time!!! But Are you sure the Darn thing is cocked?? If I hold the trigger on my 93's the bolt closes real nice... But, the thing aint cocked.. and of course I can't put the safety on... Sorry if this seems offensive...but that much amiss seems .... well amiss.. MV

[BigGun]

Bollit Man: No offence. Yes it is cacked. On closer inspection the trigger sear may have been
modified, but am not sure, If so it is a very professional job. Don't believe the sear engagemant
on the cocking piece has been modified.I believe I will modify the cocking piece so the safety
can be engaged.
thanks
Ted Kelley

[Bret4207]

Be aware some of these parts aren't strictly interchangable. I had the same problem on a '98 parts rifle I put together. It might be yours is the same type of problem. I'm sure cocking pieces should be availble at little cost from GPC and other places.

[mooman76]

Does anyone know if the 1884 Mauser has the same bolt as the 93. I have one I just destroyed and I have the bolt sitting here.

[MtGun44]

Not the same.

Bill

[mooman76]

Actually it is 1894 and Brazilian. My memory was off abit!

[MtGun44]

I was wondering about the "1884" - wasn't familiar with that one except I do
know that the 91 and early model Mausers were very different than the
93, which is just a hair different than the 95 which is a bunch different from
the 98s.

The 94 bolt likely has the same whole striker assy as the 93, unless the Spanish
changed the design from a real Mauser. I have had 93 Mausers, not Spanish, and
have a 95 DWM Mauser which looks identical to a 93 except the little safety lug on
the action body just behind the bolt handle.

I have a 1908 Brazilian long rifle and a carbine, both in 7x57 but these are 98 actions,
I wasn't aware of the 1894 Brazilian.

Bill

[racepres]

Far as I can tell from the small sampling that I have! The 93, & 95 are about the same excepting the "thumb cut" on some 93's, the so-called bolt root safety on the 95's, and of course the 93 bolt [w/ the flat bottom] only goes into a 93, while the 95 bolt will go in any small ring I have tried [93 and up] I just have not knowingly handled a '94.. FWIW.. MV

[Ricochet]

The only rifle of this series I own is a Turkish '93. But I think I've read that of the 1893-95 series, some of the bolts are round faced and some are kind of D-shaped with a square bottom. The bolts won't interchange between the two.

Well, racepres just beat me to that. :-)

[MtGun44]

Wouldn't the striker and safety assy interchange, even if the bolt body has
a flat on the bottom?? I sold my last 93 many yrs ago and kept the super nice
95 Chilean, so can't compare from my collection.

I was thinking that the problem assy could possibly be exchanged with the
one that is offered as unneeded after a rifle blowup and possibly fix the
original problem that way.

Bill

[BigGun]

Moonman76
would you part with that bolt you have ?
contact me at kelleyted@hotmail.com
thanks
Ted Kelley

[mooman76]

Ted
Your bolt went in the mail this afternoon. Should get it Mon. or Tues.

Mark

[MtGun44]

Let us know how it works out.

Bill

[BigGun]

Mark: Thanks.

Bill: will do

Ted Kelley