32 winchester special

[hound13]

just wondering if any one is making them or not winchester was the only one that i no of . if they made new ones i would buy one in a heart beat i just love that model ... what do you guys think of them ????? has anyone got this one new or old ????? thanks .hound13

[TXGunNut]

I've got one made in 1979. Typical gun for the era, maybe a bit better. It likes the Ranch Dog 323-170 boolit. Several members here are 32 Special fans. I think Marlin and Savage chambered rifles for that cartridge but can't recall actually seeing one. Very CB-friendly cartridge but as far as I know it hasn't been a factory chambering for years. As far as brass I prefer proper headstamp but it's a seasonal run, not much out there now. Can be made from 30-30 brass but it always comes out short for me. I missed a nice 1930's 94 a few weeks ago. Keep your eyes open, one will come your way if you're patient.

[hound13]

I've got one made in 1979. Typical gun for the era, maybe a bit better. It likes the Ranch Dog 323-170 boolit. Several members here are 32 Special fans. I think Marlin and Savage chambered rifles for that cartridge but can't recall actually seeing one. Very CB-friendly cartridge but as far as I know it hasn't been a factory chambering for years. As far as brass I prefer proper headstamp but it's a seasonal run, not much out there now. Can be made from 30-30 brass but it always comes out short for me. I missed a nice 1930's 94 a few weeks ago. Keep your eyes open, one will come your way if you're patient.
ya im hoping it will happen thanks hound13

[MostlyLeverGuns]

Savage made a .32-40, no .32 Special that I know of. Winchester and Marlin made quite a few, Winchester 1894 and 94, Marlin in the 36 and 336, maybe the 1893. Remington made a .32 Remington, which is essentially rimless .32 Special in their Model 14 pump gun. Maybe a few single shots were chambered for it. No factory bolt guns that I know of. If I had to make .32 Special cases, I would try .38-55, .375 Win and .32-40, in that order if available. 30-30 is the easiest to find and least expensive. Uniform length is more important than actual length, though the Lee crimp Die might require a certain length. Hornady has recently made .32 Special brass and cartridges. Factory ammo is available (in theory? ?). Marlins and Winchesters in .32 Special show up regularly on GunBroker.

[Scharfschuetze]

Here's a concurrent thread on the 32 Special.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?248900-winchester-32-special-any-good

It ought to wet your appetite for the old gal.

[northmn]

The 32 Special has quite a following and one can really get a debate going over the advantages of a 30-30, 32 special or a 35 Remington. One writer one time stated that a a chimpmunk could not blow its nose over the power differences. Basically the 32 special can be laoded more easily to the advertised power in a 20" barreled carbine. Another way to look at it is that a 170 grain bullet out of a 32 special is driven about the same speed as a 30-30 150 grain. 30-30 ballistics are published out of 26" barrels. As one who uses the vastly superior 35 Remington I don't get into these small arguements:-P Really, for some reason different calibers seem to work for us and we need to at least scratch the itch to satisfy our curiosity. Ammo costs more but is available in my area readily. I bought a few boxes of factory ammo and shot it up for the 35 which is at a similar price. Now can reload it.

DP

[gandydancer]

I found a marlin lever action a while back in lgs for 250.00 otd looked real good in 35 remington. found it needed a little TLC in working the lever. about $20.00 bucks of small parts from brownells looks and works like a new rifle. found some brass need to cast. load. & shoot. a re-barrel on a ruger # 3 in 32 special sounds interesting also. or maybe a 21" barrel for a G2. life is good. gd :bigsmyl2:

[TXGunNut]

I stand corrected, Savage at one time manufactured 32 Special cartridges but did not chamber a rifle for it, as far as I can tell. The advantange of the 32 Special over the 30-30 is the slower twist commonly found in the 32 Spl, folks who cast boolits think that's a bit more than a chipmunk's hanky.
I own rifles chambered for both cartridges but quite honestly with such a small sample size I see no difference. I like the 32, and the difference may be there, regardless of what a certain gunwriter says.

[salvadore]

Hey Tex, good to see ya. Hound, I bought my 1949 '94 .32 Spec. just to use it as a CB shooter. Tried Ranch Dog, Lyman's Lovern design and Lee's 175 8mm with some luck, but was always running into the rifling. Finally purchased Accurate's 324 gc 165. Had a guy in Gooding cut the barrel to 16". Unlike Tex, I've found using 30/30 brass works great and I still find 30/30 brass on the ground from the nonreloading crowd. I do have to trim after each go round. Here's a 50 yd group I shot this summer...pretty good for a blind guy.

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm297/farcla/DSCN0694_zps129c3008.jpg (http://s299.photobucket.com/user/farcla/media/DSCN0694_zps129c3008.jpg.html)

[izzyjoe]

I think the 32 special is superior to the 30-30 in many ways! :wink:

[TXGunNut]

Figured you'd drop by and help out on this thread, Sal. Good to see you too, even better to see that old rifle. ;-)

[TXGunNut]

I think the 32 special is superior to the 30-30 in many ways! :wink:

Ssssshhhhh! Can't say that around here, the thutty-thutty's will get their feelings hurt and the 32 already knows she's Special. ;-)

[hound13]

no doubt they are accurate they will go a long way >>>> hound13

[OverMax]

I got one or two here. All Winny's. Just range rifles they are. As far as which caliber I prefer. Depends on what day of the week it is. {kidding}
I kind'a like my 30-30 better than the 32. It's a little more accurate for me than the 32 is when using open barrel sights only. Shoot quite a bit of cast thru both. As they are collector grade rifles. Unlike my 270. Little winny's are fun to shoot at my cub range. Reduced loads for targeting I primarily shoot. (cheap) entertainment. If you ever get the chance to purchase a decent pre-64 94 in 30-30 or 32. Buy it. Their worthy of a space in anyone's safe or closet.

[salvadore]

Yep, She's a beaut Tex. Finally settled on 5744 with the Accurate bullet, getting slightly less than 1700fps with the 16" barrel, according to my handy dandy chronograph. Wish I had better eye sight.


http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm297/farcla/DSCN0229_zpsf073600e.jpg (http://s299.photobucket.com/user/farcla/media/DSCN0229_zpsf073600e.jpg.html)

[358 Win]

I have four .32 Winchester Specials.

http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz169/bobddville/Gun%20Collection%20Photos/004.jpg (http://s824.photobucket.com/user/bobddville/media/Gun%20Collection%20Photos/004.jpg.html)

A 1968 Win 94, a 1949 Win 94, a 1957 Marlin 336SC, and a 1951 Marlin 336SC. All are fine cast bullet shooters.
http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz169/bobddville/Gun%20Collection%20Photos/IMAG0023.jpg (http://s824.photobucket.com/user/bobddville/media/Gun%20Collection%20Photos/IMAG0023.jpg.html)http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz169/bobddville/Gun%20Collection%20Photos/IMAG0024.jpg (http://s824.photobucket.com/user/bobddville/media/Gun%20Collection%20Photos/IMAG0024.jpg.html)

First target is five shots from my 1957 Marlin 336SC using the Ranch Dog 323-175 FNGC with Alliant 2400 powder @ 1744 fps. Second target is with the 1957 Marlin 336SC also using the old RCBS 08-170 FNGC with LVR powder @ 2300 fps. Both bullets weigh in at 182 grains lubed and gas checked.

Gotta love those .32 Specials and lead bullets.

358 Win

[Irascible]

I have a 24", M64 Winchester in 32 Special which I just love. I've been using the NEI mould with good results and just received an NOE copy of the Ranch Dog (same dimensions, but with standard lube grooves) which looks good. Just need time to try it out.
I have fire formed full length 32-40 brass with no problem and no trimming. It comes out a bit longer than 32 Special brass, but most chambers handle the extra length just fine.
I also re-barreled a Ruger #3 to 32 Special and it shoots 5/8 to 3/4" groups at 100yds all day long using the Saeco 091, 8mm bullet! GREAT CARTRIDGE.

[Fugowii]

Went to the range today with my pre64 Win94 and tried out some rcbs 32-170-FN w/14.0gr A2400 @ 2.520".
It's a shooter @ 100 Yds (longest distance at my range) with my 2X Scout scope. Chrono-ed these at a rough
average of 1550 FPS in a re-formed 30-30 case. Sizing to .324" in a .322" barrel. Might crank it up a notch
in the future but it shoots this so nice I hate to change.

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i227/BP_2006/Win94.jpg

[TXGunNut]

There's a link on the "375 Brass" thread to a company that has some hard to find brass, including 32 Special.

[Fugowii]

There's a link on the "375 Brass" thread to a company that has some hard to find brass, including 32 Special.

36.34/50 = .7268/case. In a crunch, yes, but with some effort, getting once fired is a much more frugal path.

[TXGunNut]

Loading/shooting "free" thutty-thutty brass appeals to the tightwad in me but proper length and headstamp appeal to me on other levels. I wish they had Hornady brass but I don't know when they'll be getting into the slower-moving products. Winchester 32 Spl brass was $27.46/50.

[Fugowii]

Loading/shooting "free" thutty-thutty brass appeals to the tightwad in me but proper length and headstamp appeal to me on other levels. I wish they had Hornady brass but I don't know when they'll be getting into the slower-moving products. Winchester 32 Spl brass was $27.46/50.

Much better, only .55/case. I keep on the hunt for once fired as I'm a second hand guy if there ever was one. In the meantime the 30-30 is for range use. Gets me really close without a lot of cost.

[northmn]

Kind of suspected if I mentioned the power difference thing about a chipmunk a 32 special shooter would comment. 32 Special has a little more potential, especially with heavier bullets over a 30-30. As stated I have an old Marlin 35 with a 24" barrel and half magazine that handles my desires very well. Seen examples of that same model in a 32 special and think they would be a very fine rifle.
Kind of like TXgunnut I feel that whether or not there is any practical difference between them, the little extra don't hurt either.

DP

[beagle]

Got an 1949 (as I recall) old Marlin .32 Spl. Wood and metal is ugly as a fence post. Bought it at a gun show and came home and thought I'd been had but after soaking out the copper fouling for about a week, I can see good rifling and it shoots really well. Don't get much use but it's a reliable, hard hitting shooter with cast./beagle

[highwalljim]

I have 2 Winchester 94 er's chambered in 32 win special, One pre 64 Rifle and one wrangler with 16 inch barrel. Killed my first deer with the wrangler. However they booth shoot extremely well with cb.

[bob208]

it seams like every special order 84 I have is in.32.

I have a 94 carbine in .32 that is u.s. gov. property marked. don't know what it was used for. we think it mite have been a guard gun.

[TXGunNut]

Stumbled across a nice 94 in 32WS today. It's all your fault, OP!

Thanks, BTW. ;-)

My RD 323-180 is a bit fat for the rifling, ordered the NOE 322-180.