Is it me or does the 650 have a better priming system than the 1050

[AbitNutz]

I'm looking at both the 650 and the 1050. It appears that the 650 has a better priming system than the 1050, which is rather surprising. Having said that, the 650 looks like a better design...I wonder if the 1050 functions more than well enough to where it doesn't matter. I really like the way the tool head comes down and the base plate is stationary on the 1050. The price is rather daunting, especially when you add in the cost of a bullet feeder.

[angus6]

Only seen 1 guy like the 650 priming system better and it almost sounds like it's the tube tip is he's deal. After having both on the bench only the 1050 is there now, to me it was like I could drive a Yugo or a Beemer , I choose the Beemer. It's got to be good they based it off a Star

[VHoward]

They are both good priming systems and they both have their own bad points. Once you get used to the quirks, either one will perform well.

[AbitNutz]

Well the 650's priming system uses a rotary wheel and was developed after the 1050. The 1050 seems much more like the 550's shuttle system. based on that, I kinda thought that dillon re-thought the priming system and went a whole new direction. I was interested in hearing what folks who own these machines opinion of both systems.

[jmorris]

The 650 primer feeds have always been flawless for me. I can't say the same for my SD's, 550's and 1050's and yes the plastic orifice on the primer tube is generally at fault.

If fact if you hear a complaint about the 650 priming system, it is that it always feeds primers.

Running smoothly nothing beats the 1050. Swaged primer pockets, you set primer depth once with an Allen wrench and they all come out the same, one can't say that about any of the others.

[AbitNutz]

The 1050 is unique that the tool head moves and the shell plate is stationary in the vertical plane. That is something I really like. I have an RCBS summit that is the same way and while it is not a progressive press, the stationary shell just seems to be the way to, while the rotary primer feed just looks like a better design.

I guess I'll just have to become a billionaire and develop and market my own.

[jmorris]

There have been more than a few that have forced a primer into a case that would not accept it to the point that the primer was set off in the press. On a 650 they are only about a tenth of an inch from one another, so often the first one going off causes a chain reaction of them all going off around the disk and up the tube. Some also use weighted rods in the magazine and this causes the rod to have enough energy to put a hole in the celing for bust lights above the bench.

The shuttle style on the SD, 550 and 1050 are far less likely to set more than one off just from a distance point.

That said I don't ever force anything reloading and have been lucky enough to not light a primer off loading for some 30 years now.

[oneMOA]

I have owned the 550, the 650, and the 1050 and both the 650 and 1050 feed primers flawlessly.......550, not so much. Never had a primer go off while loading with any Dillon. The 1050 is considered by Dillon to be a commercial machine and does not have the no BS warranty. I think it's one year. All priming systems have to be cleaned occasionally.

[jakharath]

I had a Dillon 550 and a 650 on my bench. I now have a 550 and a 1050. The priming system is a little better on the 650 than the 550/1050. But overall, the 1050 is a better machine than the 650.