View Full Version : Clear Ballistics Gel......44-40/Black Powder
Savvy Jack
07-13-2014, 07:04 PM
To make an incredibly long story short.
CLEAR BALLISTIC GEL TEST
Marlin 1894CB 24" Barrel
Uberti "Buckhorn" 7 1/2" Barrel
Bullets cast by w30wcf, aka w44wcf
Group One - 24299 Hollowpoint 50/1 Alloy Mix
1. Rifle - 14" Penetration, 1,187fps @ 50 Yards
2. Revolver - 17 1/2" Penetration, 970fps @ 10ft Gel - 15' for chrono
Group Two - 42798 75/1 Alloy Mix
1. Rifle - 27" Penetration, 1,162fps @ 50 Yards
2. Revolver - Passed through 32", no recovery, 941fps @ 10ft Gel - 15' for chrono
Group Three - 42798 Pure Lead Alloy
1. Rifle - 23" Penetration, no chrono reading....est. 1,162fps @ 50 Yards
2. Revolver - Passed through 32", no recovery, 963fps @ 10ft Gel - 15' for chrono
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f36/CurtissHawk/Dscf2976_zpsca618faf.jpg
24299 Hollowpoint 50/1 Alloy Mix
1. Rifle - 14" Penetration, 1,187fps @ 50 Yards
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f36/CurtissHawk/SHOOTING/AMMUNITION/Dscf3012_zps90c64e72.jpg
24299 Hollowpoint 50/1 Alloy Mix
2. Revolver - 17 1/2" Penetration, 970fps @ 10ft Gel - 15' for chrono
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f36/CurtissHawk/SHOOTING/AMMUNITION/Dscf3011_zps45db77b8.jpg
42798 75/1 Alloy Mix
1. Rifle - 27" Penetration, 1,162fps @ 50 Yards
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f36/CurtissHawk/SHOOTING/AMMUNITION/Dscf3010_zpsd6b701ec.jpg
42798 Pure Lead Alloy
1. Rifle - 23" Penetration, no chrono reading....est. 1,162fps @ 50 Yards
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f36/CurtissHawk/SHOOTING/AMMUNITION/Dscf3018_zps1b2854be.jpg
Savvy Jack
07-13-2014, 07:05 PM
24299 Hollowpoint 50/1 Alloy Mix
1. Rifle - 14" Penetration, 1,187fps @ 50 Yards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=aRzVWaxc9vU
Savvy Jack
07-13-2014, 07:06 PM
24299 Hollowpoint 50/1 Alloy Mix
2. Revolver - 17 1/2" Penetration, 970fps @ 10ft Gel - 15' for chrono
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QpQa0oQ0zxo
Savvy Jack
07-13-2014, 07:07 PM
42798 75/1 Alloy Mix
1. Rifle - 27" Penetration, 1,162fps @ 50 Yards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=N0cfvsruBuQ
Savvy Jack
07-13-2014, 07:07 PM
42798 Pure Lead Alloy
1. Rifle - 23" Penetration, no chrono reading....est. 1,162fps @ 50 Yards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=GRPrCl02R7E
Savvy Jack
07-13-2014, 07:16 PM
More Here:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9XZjWb-Avz0ZePHK7e2dfsLyaxjrpoP4
Outpost75
07-13-2014, 07:18 PM
Outstanding! Good work! Thanks for posting 8-)
Savvy Jack
07-25-2014, 05:28 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHDymfETtpA
Savvy Jack
07-25-2014, 05:28 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LTpR7nksQc
Savvy Jack
07-25-2014, 05:29 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h3IwOMHnyQ
Savvy Jack
07-25-2014, 05:29 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hqwUnb1a1o
Southern Son
07-26-2014, 08:17 AM
Great stuff. Thanks for posting.
M-Tecs
07-26-2014, 12:53 PM
One more thanks for posting!!!!!!!!!!!
I make a 165 grain .40 cal HP made by Erik as well. I have a very particular blend of alloys I use that gives PERFECT expansion at around 950 fps with almost 330 foot pounds and a power factor of 157. In the last few weeks I've been mimicking the FBI's ballistic gel test through particular barriers they specify in a kit I built. I've made it relatively cost efficient for myself to have definitive results just as the commercial bullet companies do. I want to start marketing this kit but I'm not sure if the investment to make a few and sell them is even something people would be interested in. I have a few ideas: Make the kit to be sold and used by the purchaser, use my own kit and meet people at the range to test bullets themselves with my equipment, or allow people to ship me their bullets to be tested and I will video record it and send back the results and specs. I am an avid caster and reloader and I'm going back to school to become an RN so I'm hoping to make a few bucks to cover some of the $42,000 bill. Do you think anyone would even care to have their bullets tested at the degree a manufacturer would? To ensure their bullets live up to the expected standard in which they use them for?
Rattus58
12-01-2014, 07:38 AM
To make an incredibly long story short.
CLEAR BALLISTIC GEL TEST
Marlin 1894CB 24" Barrel
Uberti "Buckhorn" 7 1/2" Barrel
Bullets cast by w30wcf, aka w44wcf
Group One - 24299 Hollowpoint 50/1 Alloy Mix
1. Rifle - 14" Penetration, 1,187fps @ 50 Yards
2. Revolver - 17 1/2" Penetration, 970fps @ 10ft Gel - 15' for chrono
Group Two - 42798 75/1 Alloy Mix
1. Rifle - 27" Penetration, 1,162fps @ 50 Yards
2. Revolver - Passed through 32", no recovery, 941fps @ 10ft Gel - 15' for chrono
Group Three - 42798 Pure Lead Alloy
1. Rifle - 23" Penetration, no chrono reading....est. 1,162fps @ 50 Yards
2. Revolver - Passed through 32", no recovery, 963fps @ 10ft Gel - 15' for chrono
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f36/CurtissHawk/Dscf2976_zpsca618faf.jpg
24299 Hollowpoint 50/1 Alloy Mix
1. Rifle - 14" Penetration, 1,187fps @ 50 Yards
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f36/CurtissHawk/SHOOTING/AMMUNITION/Dscf3012_zps90c64e72.jpg
24299 Hollowpoint 50/1 Alloy Mix
2. Revolver - 17 1/2" Penetration, 970fps @ 10ft Gel - 15' for chrono
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f36/CurtissHawk/SHOOTING/AMMUNITION/Dscf3011_zps45db77b8.jpg
42798 75/1 Alloy Mix
1. Rifle - 27" Penetration, 1,162fps @ 50 Yards
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f36/CurtissHawk/SHOOTING/AMMUNITION/Dscf3010_zpsd6b701ec.jpg
42798 Pure Lead Alloy
1. Rifle - 23" Penetration, no chrono reading....est. 1,162fps @ 50 Yards
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f36/CurtissHawk/SHOOTING/AMMUNITION/Dscf3018_zps1b2854be.jpg
Impressive results... especially using black powder! Aloha.. :cool:
Lead pot
12-01-2014, 01:55 PM
To make an incredibly long story short.
CLEAR BALLISTIC GEL TEST
Marlin 1894CB 24" Barrel
Uberti "Buckhorn" 7 1/2" Barrel
Bullets cast by w30wcf, aka w44wcf
Group One - 24299 Hollowpoint 50/1 Alloy Mix
1. Rifle - 14" Penetration, 1,187fps @ 50 Yards
2. Revolver - 17 1/2" Penetration, 970fps @ 10ft Gel - 15' for chrono
Group Two - 42798 75/1 Alloy Mix
1. Rifle - 27" Penetration, 1,162fps @ 50 Yards
2. Revolver - Passed through 32", no recovery, 941fps @ 10ft Gel - 15' for chrono
Group Three - 42798 Pure Lead Alloy
1. Rifle - 23" Penetration, no chrono reading....est. 1,162fps @ 50 Yards
2. Revolver - Passed through 32", no recovery, 963fps @ 10ft Gel - 15' for chrono
Jack.
What is more impressive to me with your test is the penetration not the expansion of the bullets. This seems to blow past the replies so far that the lower velocities out penetrate the higher velocities.
dualsport
12-15-2014, 03:13 PM
My hat is off to the OP. Well done. More please.
Wayne Smith
12-16-2014, 02:16 PM
I make a 165 grain .40 cal HP made by Erik as well. I have a very particular blend of alloys I use that gives PERFECT expansion at around 950 fps with almost 330 foot pounds and a power factor of 157. In the last few weeks I've been mimicking the FBI's ballistic gel test through particular barriers they specify in a kit I built. I've made it relatively cost efficient for myself to have definitive results just as the commercial bullet companies do. I want to start marketing this kit but I'm not sure if the investment to make a few and sell them is even something people would be interested in. I have a few ideas: Make the kit to be sold and used by the purchaser, use my own kit and meet people at the range to test bullets themselves with my equipment, or allow people to ship me their bullets to be tested and I will video record it and send back the results and specs. I am an avid caster and reloader and I'm going back to school to become an RN so I'm hoping to make a few bucks to cover some of the $42,000 bill. Do you think anyone would even care to have their bullets tested at the degree a manufacturer would? To ensure their bullets live up to the expected standard in which they use them for?
I would suggest you start your own thread and re-post this, with paragraph breaks. You will get a lot more attention that way.
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