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44man
06-17-2014, 11:23 AM
My back order is in from Midsouth. I will be getting 16# of 4759. They might have more so go look. Came to $20.45 a pound after shipping and hazmat.

62chevy
06-17-2014, 11:31 AM
Good now if I could just find some Bullseye and Unique I'd be happier than a pig in slop.

dondiego
06-17-2014, 11:57 AM
I think that is the best way to get the powder you want. Back order a good supply and start saving your schekels for when the order comes in.

44man
06-17-2014, 12:07 PM
I was lucky, most do not take back orders but Midsouth did when I called. Power Valley would not. Powder is an iffy thing today.
I hope Hodgdon got enough calls so they do not take 4759 away from us. They will make a huge mistake.
Midsouth has been so good to me for years and years, I feel them as friends

joesig
06-17-2014, 12:48 PM
Natchez has 4759, $23 One pound bottles, 10 bottle limit.

44man
06-17-2014, 01:36 PM
Natchez has 4759, $23 One pound bottles, 10 bottle limit.
Decent until hazmat is added along with postage. Do you know hazmat is a false charge by shippers? I worked at freight and the rules were to separate some items. Paper work was a small form, no extra charge. Just a form to inform loaders to keep items separate. Shippers took it to make money. Some things can not be next to others in case a package breaks but powder is not prone to that and is safe to ship. UPS started the stuff to make money. I filled out thousands of hazmat forms with no extra charges. I loaded tons with no extra work. It is a rip off.

Bullshop Junior
06-17-2014, 01:50 PM
Good now if I could just find some Bullseye and Unique I'd be happier than a pig in slop.

I found both the other day for $18.50 a pound.

44man
06-17-2014, 01:58 PM
I found both the other day for $18.50 a pound.
Great, even a very old can of 4831 has a sticker on it at $22.

GLL
06-17-2014, 02:42 PM
I am beginning to think Alliant no longer even makes Bullseye ! ;) ;)

I called 13 suppliers around here and all indicated they had not seen a single bottle of Bullseye in months !

I am completely out !

I did stumble on to 3 pounds of Unique last week ! :)

Jerry

62chevy
06-17-2014, 03:54 PM
I'm glade someone is finding Bullseye and Unique !!!

Bullshop Junior
06-17-2014, 04:39 PM
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/18/hesyzu4y.jpg

They had it in 8lb too

AlaskanGuy
06-17-2014, 04:45 PM
Holy crapola Daniel..... You stumbled upon the holy grail????? You break into somebody's stash or sumpthin???? You could go to jail for that youngster...lol....

where re was that pic taken? Or aint you telling???

AG

Bullshop Junior
06-17-2014, 04:45 PM
Secret :D

kevindtimm
06-17-2014, 04:59 PM
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/18/hesyzu4y.jpg

They had it in 8lb too

There's a gun store within 15 minutes of my house that has a supply similar to this. When you look at the prices, you'll understand why. Not a single powder under $35/lb and the vihtavuori was all over $50 (IIRC). Primers were $6/100. At those prices, they are welcome to keep what they have.

Bullshop Junior
06-17-2014, 05:02 PM
35 is about average for Alaska prices lol. The place I was goin to before was about 24 and I thought that was amazing. 18.50 ive died and gone to heaven.

joesig
06-17-2014, 07:02 PM
Decent until hazmat is added along with postage. Do you know hazmat is a false charge by shippers? I worked at freight and the rules were to separate some items. Paper work was a small form, no extra charge. Just a form to inform loaders to keep items separate. Shippers took it to make money. Some things can not be next to others in case a package breaks but powder is not prone to that and is safe to ship. UPS started the stuff to make money. I filled out thousands of hazmat forms with no extra charges. I loaded tons with no extra work. It is a rip off.

I don't doubt that in the least!

Also not trying to steal business from Midsouth, they are a great company too.

For those that don't have and would like, I don't mind offering an alternate source.

PAT303
06-18-2014, 08:14 AM
You guys have it good,it's around $50AUS for 500gm bottles here and we make it. Pat

44man
06-18-2014, 09:11 AM
We had a special lockup for expensive stuff, were getting huge shipments of Barreta (poor spelling of course) pistols and somewhere down the line they were disappearing.
Once other stuff was missing so supervisors hid and watched the stuff put in a cart, then followed the driver to the plane. At the plane, stuff was missing. The driver never stopped and the supervisors were right behind him.
Now there are some hazmat items not allowed on planes, have to go by truck or train, just look in the book.
Even weight per square foot was not allowed if too heavy for the floor and I rejected many items that would go on my plane.
Everyone knew hazmat and what things could not be loaded close to another in case something broke open to initiate a reaction. Trucks loaded the same. No extra money to ship. We even shipped a lot of radioactive medicine so any film had to kept away. I never made extra money working with the stuff and still blame UPS for starting the charges. It spread fast.

rr2241tx
06-18-2014, 11:19 AM
Well, Bullshop Jr., you finally made it to Bexar Bowling. Congratulations.

Bullshop Junior
06-18-2014, 11:48 AM
Don't go telling my secrets.

kayak1
06-18-2014, 12:49 PM
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/18/hesyzu4y.jpg

They had it in 8lb too


Do they ship? I would love to pickup 5 x 8lb jugs and enough primers to make the 50lb limit......

Bullshop Junior
06-18-2014, 02:09 PM
They had very few primers. I don't think that they ship.

captain-03
06-18-2014, 03:40 PM
Good now if I could just find some Bullseye and Unique I'd be happier than a pig in slop.

BE is not to be found around here!!!!!!!!!!!

butch2570
06-21-2014, 09:14 PM
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/18/hesyzu4y.jpg

They had it in 8lb tooAll the gun stores in west virginia combined don't have that much powder on the shelves ,LOL....

62chevy
06-21-2014, 09:43 PM
All the gun stores in west virginia combined don't have that much powder on the shelves ,LOL....

A lumber yard in Clarksburg has rifle powder in one pounds jugs only and that is if you want to pay the price, they are high. I wait for the gun show in Fairmont to get powder and primers still not the best prices but better than that lumber yard.

Spruce
06-21-2014, 09:57 PM
joesig,

I wouldn't mind knowing another source. A drive to source or shipping source? My pistol powders are very low. Thanks.

butch2570
06-21-2014, 10:57 PM
A lumber yard in Clarksburg has rifle powder in one pounds jugs only and that is if you want to pay the price, they are high. I wait for the gun show in Fairmont to get powder and primers still not the best prices but better than that lumber yard.I done what 44 man did , I placed the 50 lb backorder, I'm not running all over the creation looking for things.:razz:

starmac
06-22-2014, 04:38 AM
Every driver that hauls hazmat pays more to get his license, way more,, and evern has has to pay again before a regular cdl is even due to renew. Every rig that hauls hasmat pays more for the extra (more than double) liability the feds require, plus extra for hasmat insurance. I am paying real close to double right now for hasmat insurance, and I can't haul powder, chemicals or fuel on the insurance I have. If ups was not charging more for hasmat, then they were charging hasmat rates for regular freight, because it does cost to haul it, from any standpoint you look at it from.

GaCop
06-22-2014, 06:20 AM
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/18/hesyzu4y.jpg

They had it in 8lb too I wish shops around here looked like that! I haven't seen any pistol powders here in almost a year!

smokeywolf
06-22-2014, 07:21 AM
8 lb. jugs at Graf's for $160.99; about $22--/lb. w/hazmat, if you buy 2 cases (32 lbs.).

They've also got a little bit of a stock of large pistol primers.

smokeywolf

gtgeorge
06-22-2014, 07:38 AM
I took a 325 mile trip north to drop the son off at his Nana's and stopped at a few gun stores on the way Friday. The only one's stocked like that were crazy high so I passed. I did however pick up 3k of assorted primers, some #10 caps and part of the powder I found was 8# of 2230 and an 8# keg of Hercules Bullseye dated 1993 :bigsmyl2:. Unfortunately the $ ean out before the supplies on this trip.

62chevy
06-22-2014, 09:23 AM
I done what 44 man did , I placed the 50 lb backorder, I'm not running all over the creation looking for things.:razz:

I don't either they are in the same mall that I pay my cable bill so just have to stop and see what they have. Walmart also has powder and primers so if they have what I need I get it there.

butch2570
06-22-2014, 09:51 AM
I don't either they are in the same mall that I pay my cable bill so just have to stop and see what they have. Walmart also has powder and primers so if they have what I need I get it there.The problem I see here ,just a little south of you 62 , is all the gun stores I frequent all use Ellet Brothers Dist. and are not really trying to get hooked up with other Distributors and that's why we don't see powder shelves stocked like the one posted buy Bullshop Jr. There is powder out there I personally have found it , but have to drive three to four hours one way to get it.

ghh3rd
06-22-2014, 09:52 AM
Walmart! Wish ours sold powder and primers.

62chevy
06-22-2014, 03:57 PM
The problem I see here ,just a little south of you 62 , is all the gun stores I frequent all use Ellet Brothers Dist. and are not really trying to get hooked up with other Distributors and that's why we don't see powder shelves stocked like the one posted buy Bullshop Jr. There is powder out there I personally have found it , but have to drive three to four hours one way to get it.

Ya I haven't been out to McFlys, used to be Jerry's, in some time it's not often we get to Weston. I know they carry some reloading stuff just not enough to make me go there.

44man
06-23-2014, 09:04 AM
Every driver that hauls hazmat pays more to get his license, way more,, and evern has has to pay again before a regular cdl is even due to renew. Every rig that hauls hasmat pays more for the extra (more than double) liability the feds require, plus extra for hasmat insurance. I am paying real close to double right now for hasmat insurance, and I can't haul powder, chemicals or fuel on the insurance I have. If ups was not charging more for hasmat, then they were charging hasmat rates for regular freight, because it does cost to haul it, from any standpoint you look at it from.
Interesting thing I did not consider. However when I worked the freight counter, cost went by weight and even size was not extra.
Regulations ruined a lot and now the post office is going to start charging by box size more then before.
I hate a company that adds a handling charge too. If I send you some boolits free but need postage, should I charge to pack a box? I spent years changing skids or banding shipments with no extra charge to the customer. But today it costs you for luggage in the pits. Then you are lucky to get a bag of peanuts when long ago you got steak and shrimp, even seen caviar. Short ribs were unreal. When I flew, the booze was free and the stew gave me extra bottles to take with me. Now you pay for soda.
After 911, security went crazy, they would confiscate my fork and nail clippers from my lunch bucket. Mechanics could not bring tools.
Big brother looks out for you!

Digital Dan
06-23-2014, 10:37 AM
Not eating my heart out, but thanks for the lead. Just took delivery by FEDEX. Midsouth didn't have anything else I needed, but then I no longer need 4759. :drinks:

SSGOldfart
06-23-2014, 11:21 AM
Humm BJ have you been in my shed again!!!!:shock::bigsmyl2:

starmac
06-24-2014, 04:03 AM
I would love to be able to order powder, but it just isn't to be. lol

44man, since 911 we have had to get passports to pass through Canada, never before. We have to be fingerprinted to get hasmat on our license, at a cost of 90 bucks and an appointment on certain days to do it, can't just go to the dmv and get her done. The license is for 5 years, but the finger prints is only good for 4 years, so we have to remember and renew our license a year early (and pay the fees. lol) Then every five years we have to get a seperate fingerprint IF we ever want to haul anything into or out of any port, this set of prints is worth 130 bucks. Since 911 they have come up with severals to help me spend my money. One port I haul out of occasionally, I usually get there in the night, kids ride their bicycles through it all night. I make it a point to track down security in the mornings when they come to work, and make them look at the friggin TWIC card, so they know I am not a terrorist.

257
06-25-2014, 01:16 AM
I lucked out about a month ago a local store started getting in all kinds of powder in 1 lb size hogdon imr Winchester alliant all for list price 18.00 to 25.00 per pound and there getting it in weekly. maybe things are starting to loosen up at last

44man
06-25-2014, 11:31 AM
I went to get my drivers license renewed and they would not accept my birth certificate because the original did not have my first name yet. Had to send to Ohio to get another copy.
But you can vote without any proof of citizenship.
You guys in Alaska really have a problem since stuff goes through Canada. Liberal socialist ***' country. I paid $83 for a bow where friends in Canada could not get the same bow less then $1000.
Need to build a bridge to bypass Canada to Alaska. Maybe we should take over that portion of Canada as a state.

joesig
07-01-2014, 10:13 AM
Midway has SR4759 in stock:

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/913798/imr-sr4759-smokeless-powder-8-lb

dondiego
07-01-2014, 11:30 AM
It looks like after shipping and hazmat, the price will be around $24.60 per pound for an 8 pound keg.

44man
07-01-2014, 02:29 PM
It looks like after shipping and hazmat, the price will be around $24.60 per pound for an 8 pound keg.
Midway strikes again!