Fast case trimmers

[Sagebrush7]

I have about a thousand cases to trim, 30-06, 30-30 7mm Mag, .223. I need a fast chucking machine to hold the cases and start trimming. I have been using a Lee set up and is very slow. Whether motorized or not the need to quickly hold the case head, which seems to be the most important. I am familiar with the RCBS Unit.

[Bullshop Junior]

I like the RCBS with the lever lock deal. Get some sweet tea and some tunes and start cranking.

[376Steyr]

If money is no object, the Gracey powered trimmer works good: www.matchprep.com/
If spending $400 to trim cases isn't what you had in mind, the Forster hand-cranked trimmer with a power tool (cordless drill, etc.) adapter works good too.

[Eddie2002]

I have been using a Unimat mini metal lathe with a 3 jaw chuck. It works great trimming 30-06 and trimming 06 down to 7.7 Jap. I can run a batch of 100 cases and get them all within 3 thousands of each other. Bought it used a few years ago and had it sitting in a box till I realized it would be a great case trimmer. With that many cases to trim you really need something powered, not hand driven.

[str8wal]

I like the RCBS with the lever lock deal. Get some sweet tea and some tunes and start cranking.

Same trimmer, but I use a cordless drill to "crank" it.

[oldfart1956]

Sagebrush here's something you can try. I'll assume for now you're using the Lee trimmer as designed with the case holder. Take the appropriate Lee case length tool and chuck it up in the drill press. (assuming you have one or access to one) Make sure the press table is set level as if it isn't you're about to gammahooch a bunch of cases. What you're going to do is turn on the press, snatch a case up between thumb&forefinger and set it on the press table and lower the cutter/case length tool as the drill press is running. Try a couple cases to ensure it's cutting correctly. You don't need the case holder...just hold the case with them fingers. Don't turn the press off, just toss the trimmed case, snatch up another and lower the cutter again. A word of warning, pay attention. That cutter will cut whatever is below it at any time. If you can't keep ahold of the case (it spins) try a different speed. I'd advise not to do this with little short pistol cases if you have fat fingers or lack attention and dexterity. Audie...the Oldfart..

[Garyshome]

Need to try that lee thing looks like it might be the way to go!

[petroid]

Oldfart, I tried that once. Only once. Too dangerous for my liking. May I suggest either a World's Finest Trimmer, or a CTS Case Trimmer. Both are designed to be chucked in a drill or drill press and they index off the shoulder so will trim as fast as you can put cases in and out. The WFT has bearings, the CTS has a polymer insert. I use the CTS for great results. All cases within a couple thou. CTS is cheaper but you will have to get one for each caliber you need to trim however some can be used, with adjustments, for the same family of cartridges like 270 and '06, or 243, 7mm-08, and 308

[dragon813gt]

If you want the best: http://www.giraudtool.com/prod02.htm

I use a Forster w/ a battery powered drill. The collet is what bothers my hand the most and you have to insure the case is set properly to make sure you trim to a consistent length. If you do your part it will trim to w/in .001 every time.

[David2011]

Sagebrush,

I understand the challenge of trimming a bunch of cases and trying not to spend a bunch doing it. In pursuit of that goal I think I spent a bunch looking for the least expensive, fastest, most consistent way. I had almost 5,000 5.56 cases to size and trim at one point and explored every avenue I could think of. I now have Lee trimmers, a Forster trimmer, Possum Hollow and WFT that will all trim .223/5.56. The Lee and Forster will trim every rifle cartridge I load- .223, .22-250, 6.5x55 and .30-'06.Recently someone made me an offer I couldn't refuse on a Dillon 1200RT but even then I wouldn't have bought it to trim 1000 assorted cases. It rocks on high volumes of a single cartridge but is just too expensive to set up for small volumes for me. Except for .223 I usually process and load 20-60 rifle cartridges at a time.

Have you tried the Lee universal three jaw chuck? It takes a little breaking in but once it started working smoothly it really sped up using the Lee system for me. I've read a lot of criticism on this item but the more I used it the better it got.

I've also adapted a Lee shell holder to use in a small drill press by drilling and tapping a couple of set screws into the loop of a box end wrench that closely fit the knurled lock ring. I chucked the shell holder in a spare drill chuck that was bolted to a piece of ply and centered up in the drill press. C-clamps held it firmly in place. The set screws just keep it in place and the wrench made it much faster to tighten and loosen.

David

[IllinoisCoyoteHunter]

I use the Worlds Finest Trimmer II with the interchangeable bushings. Its fast.

[David2011]

The wife and I went to look at the garden, watch the sunset and discuss plant watering in the middle of my last response so I missed several other responses between start and send.

Oldfart's system sounds excellent. If you have a small drill press go for it! I can see that being gentle would be an advantage.

I don't think I get better results from the Possum Hollow than the WFT but if the WFT had a carbide end mill it would probably be much better than the 2 flute Chinese end mill they furnish as standard. I suspect a carbide end mill would eliminate the need to chamfer if using boat tailed j-bullets.

David

[Yodogsandman]

Just saw a motorized RCBS setup on evilbay for $121.+ , 23 hours to go on the auction. Same setup I use. I just trimmed 800 SKS brass and it took about 12-15 hours. Tunes and a view are key.

[David2011]

The WFT and Possum Hollow can crank out a trimmed cartridge about every 5 seconds- 700/hour including handling. The WFT II can be used on multiple cartridges by changing the bushing.

FWIW,
David

[rockshooter]

I like oldfarts idea but would recommend rubber-coated gardening gloves to hold onto the case. I use the WFT with rubber gloves and the only thing that slows me down is old fingers.
Loren

[David2011]

Rockshooter,

I like the rubber glove idea. My hands have a lot of miles on them as well. Thanks! I'm just too frugal to spend the money on those cartridge holding pliers. Besides, I really don't need any more STUFF!

David

[jmorris]

If fast is the goal, nothing beats the Dillon, if you have a press that's case fed nothing else comes close. I have sized/deprimed and trimmed 1800 an hour with mine.

[Steve Steven]

oldfarts idea is similar to mine, I just use a holder for the cases, since I got tired fingers holding the cases, and they slipped I couldn't hold them tight enough. I use a old Hornaday trimmer and a cutter with a .30cal insert on the post to keep things in line.

"Sagebrush here's something you can try. I'll assume for now you're using the Lee trimmer as designed with the case holder. Take the appropriate Lee case length tool and chuck it up in the drill press. (assuming you have one or access to one) Make sure the press table is set level as if it isn't you're about to gammahooch a bunch of cases. What you're going to do is turn on the press, snatch a case up between thumb&forefinger and set it on the press table and lower the cutter/case length tool as the drill press is running. Try a couple cases to ensure it's cutting correctly. You don't need the case holder...just hold the case with them fingers. Don't turn the press off, just toss the trimmed case, snatch up another and lower the cutter again. A word of warning, pay attention. That cutter will cut whatever is below it at any time. If you can't keep ahold of the case (it spins) try a different speed. I'd advise not to do this with little short pistol cases if you have fat fingers or lack attention and dexterity. Audie...the Oldfart.. "

Heres a photo:
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/asset.php?fid=84151&uid=33330&d=1386999430

Heres a sketch of what I use...
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/asset.php?fid=97536&uid=33330&d=1401975431

I made mine from screen stock, I made another one for a friend using a piece of 2" nominal strip. It was a bit large, it could be cut down to 1 1/4" and be better.

Steve

[TenTea]

Lee trimmer/cutter head mounted in a drill press.
Case holder/gripper assembly has a hex nub for loosening & tightening, so I use a stubby screwdriver for use with magnetic bits to do the work.
Lee thinks the case holder is going into the drill, but I beg to differ!
The drill press never travels up or down...it only spins the cutter while I lift the case into it whilst safely holding the stubby screwdriver handle.
Can do several hundred cases in no time.

For case mouth deburring and chamfering, I chuck the cutter tool into an old wood lathe and process the cases by hand...quick and easy.

[257]

if your going to wear gloves on a drill press get yourself some of the tear away type. I spent 35 years in the machining trades I've seen many a mutilated finger over the years from gloves caught up in a drill press. it unbelievable how much power even a little drill press has when it has a hold of you

[petroid]

if your going to wear gloves on a drill press get yourself some of the tear away type. I spent 35 years in the machining trades I've seen many a mutilated finger over the years from gloves caught up in a drill press. it unbelievable how much power even a little drill press has when it has a hold of you

I second this. I have seen some nasty injuries with all kinds of machines. I still think the CTS Trimmer is a great option. Less than $50 but you need to get one for each caliber. Get one for the highest volume caliber you load and try it out. Leaves no burr inside or out! You may not even have to chamfer if you are seating boat tailed bullets. I use a lee universal expander for my 223 and 300 blackout cases and don't have to chamfer, the FCD removes the flare and I can even seat cast boolits.

[oldfart1956]

Let me try a quick test before rambling on...brb...Audie..

[oldfart1956]

Okie dokie...seem to be able to post now. First off lets address the safety concerns. Useing a drill press as mentioned does have it's concerns but bear in mind the cutter is quite small and the exposed part even smaller. And be cautious with gloves as mentioned. They could get caught in the chuck! So what we need is a guard of some sort. Sitting here I noticed the clear rubber tube that is on my Lee turret press to catch the primers....hmmm...the Lee case trimmer holder fit right in it! :) So if we take a 1 inch piece of that hose/tube and slide it over the Lee trimmers sharp end and let it extend just enough to cover the cutty bits...it works. Might want to put a wrap of tape around the Lee holder thing as mine is a bit loose. A hose clamp tightened on the top of the hose would work as well. They sell this stuff in any plumbing supply or Lowes/Home Depot. The clear tubing lets you watch for any build-up of brass chips. I'll see if this posts and, again, be right back. Audie...the longwinded Oldfart

[oldfart1956]

One of the (minor) issues I have with the Lee trimming system is the constant chucking/un-chucking of the case in the holder. It's time consuming and rough on these old fingers. Hence the reason for going the finger holding option. Here might be a way around that. Loved Stevens approach as well! If we take an inexpensive pair of snap-ring pliars could we modify the tips to hold a case? The spring-loaded to open type would work rather well I think. Try this...using two fingers of your right hand curl them up like 2 claws...like a pirates hook...only 2 of them. Now using 1 finger on your left hand..curl that up like a pirates hook. Hold your hands together and slide the single finger (left hand) in between the right hand fingers. This is what we need to hold the case. The tips have to be curved (2 on one side-one on the other) to hold different sized round brass cases. Maybe this will get someones imagination working. :) I'll look for a set of snap-ring pliars when time allows. Audie...the Oldfart..

[oldfart1956]

Hmmmm...just figured something else out. While fiddling with this I wondered how to put a guard on the chuck to avoid getting caught up in it. Then I noticed the empty water bottle in the trash and a light went on. Cut a water bottle off about 2 or 3 inches below the neck. Chuck up the Lee cutter and slide the water bottle over it until it covers up the chuck and a strip of duct tape to attach it to the cutter. Practically idiot proof. Audie...the Oldfart..

[Sagebrush7]

Audie I like the water bottle guard. Been experimenting with the drill press and the Lee cutters. You guys reminded me about the CTS tools I have one for the .223. Found it, and will experiment with it again before I buy one for the 7mm Mag and 30-06. You guys gave me some great suggestions. Thanks for your post.




Hmmmm...just figured something else out. While fiddling with this I wondered how to put a guard on the chuck to avoid getting caught up in it. Then I noticed the empty water bottle in the trash and a light went on. Cut a water bottle off about 2 or 3 inches below the neck. Chuck up the Lee cutter and slide the water bottle over it until it covers up the chuck and a strip of duct tape to attach it to the cutter. Practically idiot proof. Audie...the Oldfart..

[petroid]

Sage you had not mentioned you had the CTS. How do you like it? In my opinion it is a great but for large volume calibers. I currently only have the 300 BLK version but am looking at getting one for 223/5.56 when funds allow

[Sagebrush7]

Thats happens when you get old! About ten years ago I processed a bucket full of .223 cases using a rechargble B&D mini drill and the CT. Seem to remember it worked well. I didn't measure all cases but they crimped the same place in the canulure. I found it again after a move. Going to purchase a cheap drill again to work with. My new HD one has to much torc and to heavy. James




Sage you had not mentioned you had the CTS. How do you like it? In my opinion it is a great but for large volume calibers. I currently only have the 300 BLK version but am looking at getting one for 223/5.56 when funds allow

[Sagebrush7]

Tried the drill press and Lee cutter again on some old 30-06 cases. As suggested chucked up the cutter and slammed up the case holding with a glove. Whups! the case came out .030 short of the recommended lenght. Got the Makita hand drill out and set down in a chair. Turned the drill down to number one setting on torc. Chucked up the Lee cutter. Used a small steel plate as my back stop to keep from over cutting. I guess Lee makes the pin longer for different thickness in case heads. The cases were held with a Tillman XL 1490 gell glove to cut down on finger fatique. Moving the handdrill and case was a lot faster in hitting the flash hole with the pin. Pushing down on the steel plate lightly with the case head stopped the over cutting. Since I will be processing 20 cases at a time I think I will stick with the Lee case cutter. I highly recommend the Tillman gloves for all outside chores. Regular gloves tire my old fingers out very quick. The Tillmans let me work with tool and power equiptment with out the finger fatique. That my 2 cts.

[petroid]

The Lee trimmer is made to bottom out against the shell holder. Without it, it will trim way too short. I have tried placing the cutter in a drill press and sitting the shell on the drill plate but have only succeeded in wearing the pin down so that it trims too short.

[freebullet]

Wft is worth every penny. fast, accurate, & solid what more could you ask for?

[silverjay]

Check out the franklin arsenal platinum case prep. I just got one and really like it.

[Reddirt204]

I used to use a Lyman trimmer but have recently purchased a Trimm-It (I think that's it) very similar to the WFT 11 has inter-changeable inserts, comes with 223 & 308 family inserts just over $100 posted

Cheers

Reddirt204

[Outpost75]

I run the Lee trimmer in the drill press, simply holding the shell holder and lock stud in the drill press vise. Have done it for years and run tens of thousands of cases.

[GLL]

I checked out the WFT trimmer and it looked interesting. It only seems to be set up to index for rifle cases though.

Is that true?

Jerry

[bangerjim]

I vote for the Lee Quick Trim system. Uses your 1 stage press, trims fast AND deburs inside and out of the mouth! Very fast, you can adjust it if you feel necessary, and accurate from what I see.

I just bought 6 different "collet dies" for all the sizes I use including 06. 3-4 turns of handle and it os all over.

I have the complete set of those "other" Lee things that bottom out thru the primer flash hole (big drawback) and chucking in drill is a PITA. No need to deprime with the Quick Trim. Do it later.

I also have an RCBS style "lathe-like" trimmer with all the pilots, etc. Too hard to set up. And too time consuming chucking the base each time.

But do what your pocket book allows you.

bangerjim

[oldfart1956]

Hey Sagebrush got tied up and wanted to make a few suggestions. Glad the CT trimmers is working. Not familiar with that one. Anyways, I should have mentioned the case needs to be sitting flat on the drill press bed/table. When the little pin passes thru the primer hole it has to hit something or...well...you know what it does. ;) Now, if the trimmed case is trimming too short just unscrew the length gauge 1/4 turn and try another case. If there's a little divot on the press table where you're setting the case it will gammahooch this up. We get those when we drill right thru something into the table...eh? I just measured my set-up for the .45acp and over all length of the tool assembled was 2.631 and every time I unscrewed the case length gauge 1/4 turn it made things longer by a fairly set amount. (2.631/2.641+/2.651/2.661.) Even with 1 full turn unscrewed it's still tight enough to use. Next, wearing the case length gauge down. Seriously? Is the metal on the drill press bed more abrasive than the Lee holder? Stop reefing on the handle...we're not swaging the case down...we're trimming it by a coupl'a thousands of an inch or so. I hook my right index finger on the lever and the moment it bottoms out (trims) I leave go of it. An don't be holdin' it down till it heats up and takes the temper out of the dagnab pin! I keep a spare .45 acp case length gauge on hand on account of ...I drop them and snap the pins. I just measured a new still in the pack one compared to the one I trimmed (roughly) 4000 cases and they are identical as close as I can measure. (Brown&Sharp caliper) I trust you'll take this in the jovial manner it is intended and glad the CT is working. Thought this info might be of some use for newbies. Audie...the Oldfart.

[gpidaho]

I really like the new Lyman E-ZEE TRIM in battery powered drill fast, easy and inexpensive. GP

[Hip's Ax]

+1 for the Giraud. I put off buying it for quite sometime. Now I don't know how I ever lived without it.

[rbertalotto]

[QUOTE]if your going to wear gloves on a drill press get yourself some of the tear away type. I spent 35 years in the machining trades I've seen many a mutilated finger over the years from gloves caught up in a drill press. it unbelievable how much power even a little drill press has when it has a hold of you/QUOTE]

AMEN Brother! The drillpress is one of the most dangerous tools in the shop because folks think it is harmless! Just get a glove wrapped around a turning chuck and see what a fun day that turns into!

[TenTea]

I run the Lee trimmer in the drill press, simply holding the shell holder and lock stud in the drill press vise. Have done it for years and run tens of thousands of cases.

Thank you for this tip which will add a slight improvement to my current system described earlier in this thread. :bigsmyl2:

[freebullet]

I checked out the WFT trimmer and it looked interesting. It only seems to be set up to index for rifle cases though.

Is that true?

Jerry

It only does bottle neck cartridges. It does them fast and accurate. It works on a family of cartridges. The new one has interchangeable inserts.

[sprinkintime]

I have been using the *** 2 for a few months, it is fast and very accurate, you just make a master for the lengths you need and go to it, I am using a 8 flute carbide to try to cut down on the smallest burr. Its a great tool for the person that's shooting a lot of rounds. 30-06, .223, .308 etc. They do have to be sized first to fit into the cartridge.

Sprink.

[jmorris]

What is the definition of "fast" or what are you looking for as a production rate?

[EDG]

You can measure your chamber length. You will find it is .020 to .040 longer than your brass.
Write down the number.
1. Skip trimming until the brass gets uneven or it gets to within .005 of the chamber length
2. Use the Lee hand trimmer in a drill press. Stop it with a ground, hardened piece of steel. Hold the brass with your fingers.
3. Or use a Forster trimmer powdered by a hand drill.

[DaveInFloweryBranchGA]

If fast is the goal, nothing beats the Dillon, if you have a press that's case fed nothing else comes close. I have sized/deprimed and trimmed 1800 an hour with mine.

+1 on this. You can add the Dillon to any progressive press. It sizes the brass and trims it at the same time, so if you are feeding brass by hand, it's very fast and if you have a case feeder, it's extremely fast. The nice thing is, you can add the smallest shop vac Lowe's sells to it and vacuum up the trimmings as you go, keeping your work area really clean. Put a RCBS lube die ahead of it in the progressive press to lube and you're set to really go through some brass.

Once done sizing/trimming, toss the brass in a tumbler for a final cleaning, then into a storage bin until you're ready to load cartridges. Doesn't get any better than that.

[kaskillo]

Fast=Dillon Better finish=Giraud
Yes, I own 3x Dillon and 1x Giraud

[Johnny_V]

OK, now I don't want any laughing from anybody, but I use the Forster trimmer with their 3 in 1 cutters (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyc96s3KIWI). If you take into consideration, trimming, chamfering, and deburring, it's hard to beat. A friend has the powered Lyman and he finishes a couple minutes ahead of me on 200 cases, but then he has to chamfer and debur, so who's ahead now???

Just my 2¢.........

[petroid]

OK, now I don't want any laughing from anybody, but I use the Forster trimmer with their 3 in 1 cutters (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyc96s3KIWI). If you take into consideration, trimming, chamfering, and deburring, it's hard to beat. A friend has the powered Lyman and he finishes a couple minutes ahead of me on 200 cases, but then he has to chamfer and debur, so who's ahead now???

Just my 2¢.........
Many trimmers make such a clean cut that there is no burr. Inside chamfering often is not required when seating boat tailed jacketed bullets. When loading cast boolits, proper expansion can and often is adequate to prevent shaving lead. I even expand slightly when seating flat base jacketed bullets. Works just fine and faster than chamfering.

[jmorris]

OK, now I don't want any laughing from anybody, but I use the Forester

I won't laugh, I have and use one too. I even added a power window motor to it to keep from having to crank it. It will also turn necks, none of the "fast" trimmers will do that.

[Chev. William]

I have two Lyman 'Universal Case Trimmers' fitted with Power Drill Motor adapter stems. I also have a Lee universal '3 jaw' chuck and power Stud adapter, along with custom and standard Lee Case length Gauge stems for the cutter body.

I have found that all three setups trim with relative speed over hand twisting the cutters but always leave 'burrs' that need to be removed, both inside and outside, with a champfer tool.
Also the steel cutters seem to get dull quickly in use with power drive, so I bought a pair of 'Carbide Tipped cutter heads to try out on the Lyman's. The first one seems to be cutting longer without dulling but it still leave the Burrs.

I do admit my 'trimming operations' are more extensive than most as I am trimming reformed "Hornet" brass to .25 Stevens lengths (Hornet is 1.400" case length and .25 Stevens is 1.125" case length).

I also use the Lee '3 jaw' to hold cases after trimming and deburring for 'polishing with 3M Scotchbrite pad' with good results.

Unfortunately, I have found that the Lee Case trimmer shell holders do NOT hold my reformed cases well enough for ease fo trimming to length as they seem to hold off center and the case works further out of center with application of power operations.
This may be a fixable problem as the Lee Studs have a flat smooth face against the Base of the cartridge while the Lyman has a 'spring loaded button' that helps hold the case base centered in its '2 jaw' Chuck by locating on the primer pocket. Perhaps a turned face with a 'nib' to center on the primer pocket would help, without to badly upsetting the trim Gauge use. This is a possibility as all my cases are Small Primer Pocket types.

Diameter trimming of the reformed rims has been done in the Power Drill Motor Chuck, using a Fine Single Cut Mill File with good results, if 'slow' as I need to pause often to check the diameter as I trim it.

I have also used a 6 jaw self centering Lathe Chuck in a Friends' Lathe but getting a consistent positioning of the case in the chuck is time consuming, more so than doing the work in my portable drill. of course trimming rim diameter is much more quickly done and more repeatable in the Lathe, once the case is positioned.

Best Regards,
Chev. William

[Johnny_V]

Unfortunately, I have found that the Lee Case trimmer shell holders do NOT hold my reformed cases well enough for ease fo trimming to length as they seem to hold off center and the case works further out of center with application of power operations.
This may be a fixable problem as the Lee Studs have a flat smooth face against the Base of the cartridge while the Lyman has a 'spring loaded button' that helps hold the case base centered in its '2 jaw' Chuck by locating on the primer pocket. Perhaps a turned face with a 'nib' to center on the primer pocket would help, without to badly upsetting the trim Gauge use. This is a possibility as all my cases are Small Primer Pocket types.

Chev. William,

Many moons ago I used to make .219 Zipper cases from 30-30 and what I found to be the fastest process was using a trim die from RCBS, setting it to trim a bit long, then finish in the Forster trimmer. I also had a couple of Lyman trimmers, but have since given them up as they don't center well on crimped military primer pockets, or on small cases such as the 5.7 x 28.

Just my 2¢........

[woody1]

What I use:

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=13909&d=1243875480


109917 (http://castboolits.gunloads.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=13909&d=1243875480)I have a foot pedal to start/stop. Regards, Woody

[lightman]

I use a Giraud for my volume stuff. I can run at a sustained rate of between 14 an 16 a minute over the long haul. Thats trimming to length and deburring both inside and out. It also holds about .001. It and a few caliber conversions will be expensive, but its a good tool.

[Sagebrush7]

Well I got set up with the Lee Quick Trim system. Works great and saves a step on inside case deburing. Set it up on a Texan single stage press and a raised platform to get it up to eye level. Mounted on a small peice of plywood. Moma let me work in the aircondition on the dining table. Saved enough money to buy a new Forster Co-AX Press mounted to a Inversion stand. What a great press. Ran a 100 30-06 cases and 100 7mm Mag without cramping my arm. Need to get it into the house and seat some bullets

[M-Tecs]

I use a Giraud for my volume stuff. I can run at a sustained rate of between 14 an 16 a minute over the long haul. Thats trimming to length and deburring both inside and out. It also holds about .001. It and a few caliber conversions will be expensive, but its a good tool.

I love mine!!!!!!!

[CGT80]

The CTS is a great trimmer. I have a number of them. I made an aluminum motorized base for mine. I tig welded the sheet metal case and installed a surplus motor inside. I also added a thrust bearing to the motor. It spins around 1,000 rpm. I don't usually have to debur as my powder die or flare die will take care of the inside and the crimp die will take care of any burr on the outside. If I do want to debur, I can do it on my motorized base. Trimming takes 1-3 seconds per case and deburring takes half a second to one second for inside and the same for the outside. I have a trimmer from CTS that will do 460 mag straight wall brass as well. I emailed CTS about a 30 carbine trimmer, but he said the cost was higher and he was not able to get consistent results with the length. The 460 trimmer does just fine for me. I use my electric lyman trimmer for 30 carbine, but it is a real drag to use, even though it is far better than hand cranking my old rcbs trimmers.

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[covert]

Anther vote for the worlds finest trimmer. $73 bucks or so from midway best, fastest deal for the money.

[Weaponologist]

I wouldn't mine trying some of these motorised trimmer..At the moment I'm using my cordless drill to spin the brass and the lee hand held trimmers on my pistol brass...Looks like this..
http://i60.tinypic.com/do1gtt.jpg

[GrantA]

I run the Lee trimmer in the drill press, simply holding the shell holder and lock stud in the drill press vise. Have done it for years and run tens of thousands of cases.
This is genius, I'll check mine but when doing this you should be able to just hold the brass with your left hand while lowering the chuck with your right, without tightening the shellholder, correct?

[Aunegl]

I wouldn't mine trying some of these motorised trimmer..At the moment I'm using my cordless drill to spin the brass and the lee hand held trimmers on my pistol brass...Looks like this..
http://i60.tinypic.com/do1gtt.jpg

I have a similar setup. My drill has a power cord attached.