357 Max

[kirb]

Hello Guys,

Has anyone shot the 357 Max with mag or special length brass how do they do as far as accuracy goes what is a good bullet weight for the max.

Thanks
Kirb

[Blammer]

Ok I'm really not understanding the question.

You want to know what a good boolit wt for the 357 max is?

I'd say 180 gr's.

[kirb]

let me try again grand kids loved helping

Hello Guys,

Has anyone shot the 357 Max with 357 mag or 38 special length brass? How accurate was the the 357 Mag or the 38 special in the 357 max. What is a good bullet weight for the max.

Thanks
Kirb

[Johnch]

Has anyone shot the 357 Max with 357 mag or 38 special length brass? How accurate was the the 357 Mag or the 38 special in the 357 max.

Yes I have
Not the greatest
I could hit the paper most of the time at 100 yds, but it was more of a pattern not a group

IMO it is best just to buy some Max brass


What is a good bullet weight for the max.

Thanks
Kirb

180 to 220 gr have worked best for me
My bet results in a 14" contender barrel have been ( no order )
180 gr Ranch Dog mould
My 360 220 gr GB
The 180 gr GB that has run 3 or 4 times
Lyman 358315
The 200 gr RCBS
The RCBS 35 cal 180 gr siloite bullet

John

[fourarmed]

My experience with a Ruger Max revolver agrees with John's. Stick to max cases for accuracy. I got excellent accuracy with 358429 crimped over the front driving band with 13/4759.

[2 dogs]

I agree! I got several 357's to shoot with 357 brass. My Harton tuned Ruger Maximum with max brass will shoot under 3 inches at 100 yards with open sights! 4227 powder and 180 JHP"s!

[hicard]

Not to mention the POI is totally different and the sights would have to be changed.

[lathesmith]

Experiences seem to vary quite a bit as far as using 38 Special/ 357 Mag brass in 357 Max chambers. In general, if you are among the lucky few who have managed to get a revolver in this caliber, the shorter brass doesn't seem to work very well. However, I have had pretty good results from using 38 Special loads in my single shot carbines. Mine will usually put 5 wadcutters into around 1/2" at 25 yards, which I consider to be fine accuracy for my use. The wadcutters are good for use up to around 75-100 yards, after which they start to tumble(or something). Point of aim does vary some, but it may or may not be a problem depending on your loads.
lathesmith

[kirb]

Thanks for the information guys headed to Pocatello maybe will be able to find some max brass I have a ruger that I have not shot and more that likely will not shoot. Just bought a 24 inch encore in the max that I hope to give a work out next week. thanks again for the imformation.

Thanks

Kirb

[KYODE]

howdy....just a peek at my 357max contender from MGM. ain't even shot it yet....but i will:Fire:
had a 14" factory model that really got me hooked on the max. i sold off the 44mag, n then got this custom tube. i'm not a caster, but it will see some 180gr tcbb from penn.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v486/KYODE/100_2665Small.jpg

[45nut]

still kickin around Eh Kyle?

[Boomer Mikey]

H4227 or AA1680, 200 grain RCBS cast or 180/200 Speer plated bullet.

Make a cast of the chamber; if it's the same SAAMI chamber TC used on the 10 & 14" contender barrels with the 0.400" long cone for a throat, you won't be able to touch rifling with any bullet.

The Dan Wesson 357SM revolvers shot 200's well.

The 357 Maximum can be an excellent cartridge if the chamber is cut with a custom reamer using a traditional throat; accuracy with the SAAMI chamber is ho-hum.

Boomer :Fire:

[KYODE]

still kickin around Eh Kyle?


yep....still kickin here. made a run thru lookin fer interestin threads.[smilie=1:

best to ya.....n holler at me any time. i'm still tryin to keep the youngins fed n clothed....busier than a one armed man in a paper hangin contest most of the time.:coffee:

[pa_guns]

Hi

If you run "short" brass through a 357 max you will build up lead or copper at the front of the chamber. It's a bear to clean the stuff out. If you don't fully clean things and put a max in the chamber it may or may not fit.

Accuracy wise, go with the max. The short stuff isn't going to shoot very well.

Bob

[cbrick]

I agree, use max brass. If you don't find any at your local stores you can order it off the net.

Heavier bullets are far and away the best in the max. The cartridge concept from the git go was to drive heavier than normal bullets as fast or faster than standard weight bullets, not to drive light weights ultra fast.

Here's an article by Glen Fryxell on the max that you may enjoy.

http://www.lasc.us/Fryxell357Max.htm (http://www.lasc.us/Fryxell357Max.htm)

[pa_guns]

Hi

I have used 158 grain JHP's in the max and they work ok. I would not recommend going any lighter than that. If you are looking for maximum down range punch, you will want heavy bullets.

Bob

[runfiverun]

there aint no max brass around pokie
the max like the supermags was designed th throw heavier bullets at higher velocities
and seem to shoot better when this is applied at least my 375 and 445 say so

runfiverun

[Crosshair]

Has anyone had a H&R .357 Mag Handi-Rifle re chambered to the "Mad-max"? I have thought about getting a 357 Mag barrel and having this done.

[cbrick]

there aint no max brass around pokie, runfiverun

I don't understnad "No Max brass" ??

357 Max Brass (http://www.midwayusa.com/ebrowse.exe/browse?TabID=1&Categoryid=7482&categorystring=9315***652***670***9014***)

Rick

[leftiye]

Crosshair, Yeah, I've got one. There are many of them out there. If you rechamber, don't put more than 1/8" freebore in your chamber (3/32" would be better) as you'll want to seat into the rifling, and any more than that and this could only be done with the heaviest boolits. I use a mountain molds 200 grainer, and the boolit is out until the grease groove is just barely covered.

[calsite]

so are you asking if anyone has ever shot .38 specials or .357 magnums out of a .357 Maximum?

[357maximum]

In my 15 inch encore barrelled by mgm with a true throat I have had fair luck with rcbs 35-180 silh's ahead of of 13 grains of 2400 in mag brass. The trick is to seat the boolit out as far a practical and it will be just OK, if you want true accuracy go with the brass it was designed for....38 spcl brass is basically a total waste of time in the few runs I tried.

I sure wish starline would pull their heads out of the sand on this one, I have whined on their deaf ears a few times over this matter...rem brass is ok, but leaves alot to be desired consistancy wise, now the old fed brass.....that there is a winner and if you find some put it with the other fine things in your stash...it is good stuff, and should be hoarded if you can locate some.

[lathesmith]

357, I found a brand-new box of 50, genuine Winchester brand,357 maximum brass the other day while looking around in the ammo cabinet. I haven't seen this stuff for sale in years. I'd long since forgotten about it; it's got to be from somewhere in the the 80's. Is this stuff any good? I've always used the Remington, and didn't have any real complaints, but then again, I don't have anything to compare it to. Like you said, I would prefer Starline, but you gotta use what you can find.
lathesmith

[357maximum]

From waht I have heard the max win is good brass, no first hand knowledge though.

The remington brass will show itself for what it is when you start deburring flasholes, and uniforming primer pockets....not very uniform anywhere, especially in the thickness of the head/rim..flash holes have a location migration habit and must be sorted...........it works fine once sorted, but all could be better....it is not starline, for sure......starline makes the38/ mag/and 360DW why not max...........errrrrrrgh, it is the same tooling from what I gather....eeeeerrrrrrrg again.

[lathesmith]

Like lots of other things, the devil is in the details, I guess.It certainly doesn't look like much of a jump from DW to Max-- somewhere around .150 or so I believe. There certainly doesn't seem to be a logical manufacturing reason to exclude Max brass; it must be a "gentleman's agreement" of some sort. Darn it!
lathesmith