Hunting with PCed bullets?????

[Willyp]

Has anybody tried this for a hunting bullet? Do they expand or just hold together and drill thru the game,like a deer sized animal?

[357maximum]

I did some very minimal testing using pro-tec powder painted boolits in wet clay waay back when before the current paint yer boolit craze......I would think you would want a soft alloy and some pretty good meplate....that powder paint is some rather tough stuff. Get it all balanced just right and I could see it working very well however.

[dilly]

Just thought I would add that the powder coating process requires baking, which removes the hardness gained by water quenching. If you plan to try it add that into your equation.

My opinion is that the bullet would behave the same way whether or not it was powder coated so long as the hardness was the same.

[357maximum]

My results were proably a bit skewed by the fact that Pro-Tec is a fishing jig paint. The stuff is tougher than woodpecker lips, can actually be pounded flat with a hammer and not crack/chip/peel/rip. Alloy was AC'ed 50%ww/50%pure......I had quite a bit less expansion than normal 50/50AC boolits in the same 2150 fps 357MAX loads.

[Beagle333]

You are correct, dilly. With the current polyester powdercoatings being used, it only provides a 1/1000" (one one-thousandth of an inch ;)) coating of polyester and will flex and bend with any normal expansion/compression of the lead it is applied to. :cool:

[44man]

Up in the air with me. I don't want anything that might harm a barrel. I don't think I will be painting boolits when jacketed can be bought.

[Finster101]

I have fired several hundred PCd boolits so far in 9mm and .45ACP and can detect no barrel damage. I have used mostly HF matte black or red.

[Rhino45]

Just an idea but couldn't you apply the PC like a jacketed sp leave the tip uncoated

[Finster101]

Just an idea but couldn't you apply the PC like a jacketed sp leave the tip uncoated

Very easily.

[Willyp]

We need some one to figure out how to keep from coating the tips of the cast bullet? I would think ,then,they would be like a jacketed hunting bullet! This would be a very good thing. I would most likley try to PC?

[sixshot]

I know a whole bunch of Rock Chucks & Ground Squirrels hate them! Haven't seen any difference on large chucks.

Dick

[Smoke4320]

willyp
I hunted with Pc'ed cast bullets last year .. was lucky enough to kill two deer with them..
one 300 Blkout and one with 458 socom.. When I took the 300 Blkout deer to the processer he did not believe it was with a cast bullet only going 1600 FPS.. Notice his stare when he got the hide off and the damage on the off side .. you can see the exit hole just behind the right leg
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[dilly]

We need some one to figure out how to keep from coating the tips of the cast bullet? I would think ,then,they would be like a jacketed hunting bullet! This would be a very good thing. I would most likley try to PC?

This ground has been well trodden already. I'd like to welcome you guys to come on over and take a look at the coatings and alternatives forum. One of the down sides to compartmentalizing the forum like this is it slows down the spread of knowledge through the Cast Boolits community.

Electrostatic powder coating (with a PC gun) on flat nosed bullets placed nose down will easily accomplish this.

Again, I think it's unnecessary as the thousandth of an inch coating probably doesn't affect expansion.

[popper]

Last year someone posted about a DRT deer with PC'd 44 pistol. No problems. IIRC he did it a second time. Smoke, you have the dread attachment error. Try edit & attach again, THEN delete the first. This works most of the time for me.

[Smoke4320]

Thanks for the heads up popper .. Not sure whats going on.. ever since they changed the site a few weeks ago ...I cant select multiple files and every Pic I post comes up with the attachment error ..Posted same pics before and all went well .. so I am at a loss

[Rhino45]

I need to cast the wife some more boolits tomorrow I'll try some different things and try to post pics

[Rhino45]

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[Rhino45]

Looks a lil funky in pic but that is pc'ed soft point semi wadcutter

[ggilbert]

Has anybody tried this on .500 S/W?

[xacex]

Has anybody tried this on .500 S/W?

Not 500 S&W, but I am using the same boolits for 50 Beowulf. So far I am getting 3" at 100 yards at normal jacketed velocity. I am trying to get the group size down this summer so I can use it on elk this fall.

[ggilbert]

I'm glad to hear because I planning to use that bullets in my Beowulf too, any tips in powder data I will appreciate, thanks

[micky_blue]

Any ideas how this would act if you started with a cup point, then coated the boolit nose side down, so the cup doesn't get any of the coating?

Also, can this replace gas checks? Doubt it but worth a shot.

[ebner glocken]

I haven't tried to go "nose uncoated" in a 500 S&W yet but have in a 50 AE. I could see no difference in any wound channel in any medium I tried. But then again I haven't found any fired slugs yet, they just keep going and going.

Ebner

[C. Latch]

My limited water testing backs up what common sense would have told me anyway: PC'ed bullets will behave virtually identically to regular lead lubed bullets on.

I may or may not hunt with PC this year. On hunting loads I prefer the slight extra velocity of lubes to the slightly less mess of PC. To be completely honest, I'll be underwhelmed by the rash of 'hunting with PC' threads we'll get this year. Time will show that PC and lube perform the exact same in the woods.