brasshog
05-24-2014, 03:33 PM
I recently downgraded (j/k) from my 1911 due to health reasons and deep concealment needs to a new Glock 29 10mm pistol. The Glock has lightened my load by 26oz's, is double stacked (don't want to reload in tight dark confined spaces), concealable, and is the most power for a sub compact. My carry needs at work are quiet different from the norm and penetration is possibly of the most importance in my ammo selection. My current threat assessment predicts that most shots will be close (muzzle) to very close (under 20 feet) in a confined (bedroom/kitchen) to very confined (attic/crawlspace) in which I may be standing to near prone for shooting. Muzzle blast will be immense in most cases due to total darkness in a confined space. I may need to shoot through several 2x4's that are lightered (hardened with age), metal clips on wood, or plastered walls that are as much as three feet apart. This being my first Glock and first 10mm I have found a shortage of information on barrier testing but conclude that Underwood heavy cast boolits may fill the niche that I'm in. Does anyone have any advice or experience that they could share with me on heavy for caliber factory rounds that penetrate barriers and bad guys well in 10mm ? Once I have found a suitable carry load I will then need to match it for practice drills. Below I have listed some situations that either myself or others in my profession have been in within the last year for a general idea. Thank you.
1)-Me- Found a 10'x20'x3' dungeon for children in an attic that was hidden well. The door had locks on it but was unlocked and fortunately contained no bodies (owner died a year prior). It was a full blown kids room with no access or egress except the lockable door. I can only imagine a different bad outcome if the owner had been living and I became trapped in the attic. Police notified. Penetration for attic trusses may be needed
2)-Me-Found people living inside the walls of a home. They even had a bed mattress in a "U" shape for sleeping. Penetration may be needed for plaster. Police notified.
3)-Me-People move into a home overnight. I walked into a room occupied by squatters. Police arrested them.
4)-Other-Eight homeless people living under an old ladies house. They had dug chairs into the dirt and cut the HVAC trunk line for a/c. Police arrested.
5)-Me-Walked into a fella's kitchen with him. I noticed that he locked the door as we entered from outside. Tried his best to get me to drink the kool-aid (literally) while he told me that the text messages were flowing out of the monitor of his computer into his brain and the emails were passing through his body hence his unstable mental condition. I backed up to the door, unlocked it, and made it obvious that I wanted to go outside (not a basement lol). I promptly left Note: never enough power when confronted by a lunatic
6)-Me-Pulled up to a job at dark. Was told by the resident that the guy that parked there before me was shot to death (less than 24hrs). There was a mass stabbing minutes after I left.
7)-Me-Last month I walked in on a break in that resulted in a meth lab being set up. The break in had happened minutes prior to me arriving (per evidence). They ran out the back door. Police notified but I waited for over 1 1/2 hours for deputies that never arrived. I was there for over four hours working that day and still no cops.
8)-Other- Realtor and buyer (both females) were cornered inside a home with a large black male (armed with a knife) demanding money. They gave him some, he became enraged (not enough money), and left.
9) I became trapped on a roof while crack heads (10-15 ppl) gathered around my van and began screaming at me. They wanted to burn the trailer down like the neighbors home that had mysteriously burnt to the ground the day before. Apparently my client owned several homes on that block including theirs. My shotgun was in my van that day and of no use. Police notified. I promptly left after their arrival.
Although I always carry, a firearm was not used or shown in any of these situations. I avoid conflicts if possible. A ccw has saved my butt six times so far in twenty plus years and I've only had to fire it once in self defense (a deputy was taking fire---he happened to be standing next to me lol). Thanks for taking the time to read this.
1)-Me- Found a 10'x20'x3' dungeon for children in an attic that was hidden well. The door had locks on it but was unlocked and fortunately contained no bodies (owner died a year prior). It was a full blown kids room with no access or egress except the lockable door. I can only imagine a different bad outcome if the owner had been living and I became trapped in the attic. Police notified. Penetration for attic trusses may be needed
2)-Me-Found people living inside the walls of a home. They even had a bed mattress in a "U" shape for sleeping. Penetration may be needed for plaster. Police notified.
3)-Me-People move into a home overnight. I walked into a room occupied by squatters. Police arrested them.
4)-Other-Eight homeless people living under an old ladies house. They had dug chairs into the dirt and cut the HVAC trunk line for a/c. Police arrested.
5)-Me-Walked into a fella's kitchen with him. I noticed that he locked the door as we entered from outside. Tried his best to get me to drink the kool-aid (literally) while he told me that the text messages were flowing out of the monitor of his computer into his brain and the emails were passing through his body hence his unstable mental condition. I backed up to the door, unlocked it, and made it obvious that I wanted to go outside (not a basement lol). I promptly left Note: never enough power when confronted by a lunatic
6)-Me-Pulled up to a job at dark. Was told by the resident that the guy that parked there before me was shot to death (less than 24hrs). There was a mass stabbing minutes after I left.
7)-Me-Last month I walked in on a break in that resulted in a meth lab being set up. The break in had happened minutes prior to me arriving (per evidence). They ran out the back door. Police notified but I waited for over 1 1/2 hours for deputies that never arrived. I was there for over four hours working that day and still no cops.
8)-Other- Realtor and buyer (both females) were cornered inside a home with a large black male (armed with a knife) demanding money. They gave him some, he became enraged (not enough money), and left.
9) I became trapped on a roof while crack heads (10-15 ppl) gathered around my van and began screaming at me. They wanted to burn the trailer down like the neighbors home that had mysteriously burnt to the ground the day before. Apparently my client owned several homes on that block including theirs. My shotgun was in my van that day and of no use. Police notified. I promptly left after their arrival.
Although I always carry, a firearm was not used or shown in any of these situations. I avoid conflicts if possible. A ccw has saved my butt six times so far in twenty plus years and I've only had to fire it once in self defense (a deputy was taking fire---he happened to be standing next to me lol). Thanks for taking the time to read this.