Krag sideplate interchangeable?

[wbradbury]

I am gathering pieces to build an 1898 Krag and I need a sideplate. I found a nice looking one at a good price online but the seller doesn't know if its an 1898. Are they all the same. I know there are differences in other parts but don't know about these. I also need a trigger and extractor if anyone knows of any. Thanks, Will

[gnoahhh]

Yes there are subtle differences. The forward lip is .020" thicker on a 98, and the cartridge guide (the subtle hump on the inside top surface) is longer on a 98. I'm told, but don't know for a fact, that a 96 will work on a 98 but not viseversa. The radius on the back end outboard of the screw hole is slightly different too, but the only way to really spot that is told them beside each other. Chances are pretty good the one you found will work.

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.

I have a trigger if you need it, and a spare side plate that I know is for a 98. PM me.

[madsenshooter]

And there's the 92 sideplate, easiest to ID, notice how the angle at the top runs directly into the screw, rather than above it, like in later models. The tenon (forward lip) on a model 96 sideplate is .130" thick, model 98 .150". Hmm, must be some typos in Poyer's book, he has a 2 in place of the 1 of the measurements I just gave you. I find quite a few sideplates that have had the tenon thinned, maybe folks fitting 98 sideplates to 96 actions. Sounds like gnoahhh has you covered.

[wbradbury]

That's good info thanks.

Ok, second question...I bought a mixed bag of krag parts and included was a loading gate. Come to find out it will not fit my 1898 receiver as the hinge channel runs the entire length of the gate as opposed to a 98 which has the hinge channel "indented" for lack of a better description. I researched on the web but info is limited. Every load gate I ever saw was like the 1898. Any ideas? I can't use it but I am curious what model it's from.

[madsenshooter]

Couple questions. Got any pics? And, are there any numbers on the inside front of it? There were only a few variations, with minor changes, nothing like you've mentioned. There are also differences in the carrier for the 98 vs those for earlier models. The arbor, the post at the front that acts as the hinge is shorter for a 98. 1.049 for 92s and 96s, and 1.0 for 98s. Also differences in the top curl of the carrier, supposedly to make it feed the 220gr roundnose better. As with a lot of improvements, I think they screwed up a good thing. My 92/96 rifles feeds spitzers wonderfully, some later rifles do, some don't, probably dependent on the hodgepodge of parts that were assembled into a rifle.

[webradbury]

Haven't had a.chance to post a pic yet. Wife made me get a new pocket computer and I'm still learning to use it. I'm curious though what exactly I bought! Bare with me I'll get a photo posted soon

[madsenshooter]

I'm not going anywhere. New toys, love em. I was going to college in the 90s and had to get a graphing calculator, I still don't know all the functions it has and likely never will. The manual that came with it was thicker than some of my college text books!

[webradbury]

Here is the piece in question...105194105195105196
You can see how the hinge pine channel or hole extends the full length of the part.

[madsenshooter]

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[webradbury]

I think I found my answer...saw an 1894 krag online for sale and the load gate looked the same as my piece. Full length hinge pin hole.

Madsenshooter, you say a serial number with the first three digits 369 is an upgraded 1892?

[madsenshooter]

First three? I thought whoever asked that meant the whole serial # was 369. Can't say without all the digits. Where'd that question go anyway? Oh, I see, different thread. 369 & 3690=92 or 92/96, 36900=96 carbine, 369000=98 rifle. They all have the same hinge pin hole, were you thinking of a piano hinge?