308 Garand

[pbbutz]

Any thoughts on a cast load for a Garand rebarrelled in 308? I have lyman 308466, Rcbs 180 gr, and lee 200 gr rd nose. Anybody out there done this and what were your results?

Bruce

[georgewxxx]

http://www.castpics.net/index2.htm

Bruce read this, you might get some ideas...Geo

[Larry Gibson]

Try the Lee 200 gr bullet over 27 gr H4895 with a 1 gr dacron filler. I think you will be pleased.

Larry Gibson

[pbbutz]

Thanks guys, and here's an article on these particular rifles for those interested:

http://yarchive.net/gun/rifle/garand_308.html

[catmandu]

Mr Gibson,
I appreciate the knowledge you share with this group.
Since this post is a few years old, would you still recommend this load.
I checked the Lyman CBH and it's below their recommended starting load.
Thank you for your time.

Paul in WNY





Try the Lee 200 gr bullet over 27 gr H4895 with a 1 gr dacron filler. I think you will be pleased.

Larry Gibson

[Larry Gibson]

Mr Gibson,
I appreciate the knowledge you share with this group.
Since this post is a few years old, would you still recommend this load.
I checked the Lyman CBH and it's below their recommended starting load.
Thank you for your time.

Paul in WNY

Yes, I still recommend that as a starting load. Start there and work up in 1/2 gr increments to 30 gr with the dacron filler. As loading density increases with the increases powder charge drop the dacron filler to 3/4 gr. The better bullet would be a 311299.

Larry Gibson

[catmandu]

Thank you for the prompt reply.
Funny you should mention the 311299. I was just going to ask if I could sub that since I don't have the Lee 200.
What OAL do you use. My Garand has the new Criterion barrel cut to the 308 WIN chamber.
Dou you crimp?

Paul in WNY

[EDK]

NOE 311299 and H335 is what I'm using in my M1A. Snafu12 has some posts on this in his NORINCO M14 clone. WC844 is an in-expensive equivalent...AND HI-TECH AMMO is 20 some miles away. 8 pounds for less than $100.

I've got several sets of dies, so use an M die for neck expansion; a seater die; and a RCBS taper crimp seater die to lightly crimp afterwards.

I use the little LEE hand trimmer in a cordless drill each time I reload a casing.

:redneck: :cbpour: :guntootsmiley:

[Larry Gibson]

Thank you for the prompt reply.
Funny you should mention the 311299. I was just going to ask if I could sub that since I don't have the Lee 200.
What OAL do you use. My Garand has the new Criterion barrel cut to the 308 WIN chamber.
Dou you crimp?

Paul in WNY

Sorry I don't have the OAL as I'm moving and most all my "stuff" is in temparary storage. However, in the .308W I usually seat the 311299 so the GC (top of it any way) stays in the case neck and the top lube groove is just covered. With a gas gun like the M1 if the bullet gets pushed back on chambering I will use a Lee FCD to crimp the case mouth just under the bottom edge of the front driving band.

I might add that as with most commercial moulds turned out in quanity can have small dimensional differences. I have seen some 311299/314299s that have larger driving bands and slightly longer noses. If you are restriceted to the 2.82 +/- OAL for many max mag lengths then you may have to seat deeper and perhaps roll crimp into the front driving band. When I use my 314299s in worn throat .308s I have to do that.

Larry Gibson

[catmandu]

Thank you. That is the information I wanted to know. With those guidelines I can figure out the OAL.

Paul in WNY