S&W model 10

[AZMark]

I'd like to hear peoples' opinions on the S&W Model 10. Besides some of the J-frames, it's about the only Smith I can probably afford. The J frames just seem tiny. Does the mod 10 seem to be decently accurate despite the fixed sights?

[dubber123]

The Mod. 10 was my first "good" gun, and I still have it. Unless its a factory clunker, (and I've never personally seen one), it will be way past "decently accurate" with a load it likes. Mine is a 1" gun at 25 yards, and I have made enough longer range shots with it to know it's not limited to short range. The K-frame Smiths are a very nice package, and quite durable. Mine came to me used, and I put 35,000 rounds throught mine in one year. I eventually had to replace the mainspring due to DA misfires, but thats it. It is still tight and accurate. You can load them pretty warm too, without longevity concerns.

[onceabull]

Here's another mod.10 Fan.-- down to just one right now, a 5 incher that may be with me when I cross the river . Have some other K-framed revolvers, but only the best of them is appreciably more accurate that this one. Just find a load that shoots to the sight with your hold, or file in the sights to what you need... Good luck and enjoy....:) Onceabull

[shooting on a shoestring]

I've owned 2 new ones in years past, one a three inch heavy barrel, the other a pencil barrel. Very good guns. I just looked at some heavily shot ones this weekend in the $275 to $325 range. I suspect they were fed some hot loads for a while as the barrel cylinder gaps were wide (0.008 the tightest to 0.012" the worst IIRC). However, if you get a loose one, call S & W and send it to them. They can set the barrel back and recut the forcing cone. They did my Mod 60 for me for less than $100 and installed a new hand. But it cost me $50 to send it to them, they paid postage on the way back to me.

I think the price is low on the Mod 10s b/c most folks only want .357. But the old .38 spl is still as fine a cartridge as it ever was and can serve you well.

[lathesmith]

The Model 10 is one of the best "bread n butter" guns ever. Simple, accurate,dependable, nostalgic--what's not to like?
lathesmith

[BruceB]

If you're really set on your .38 being a Smith and Wesson, then I STRONGLY suggest the used market.

Very, very few handguns ever see the amount of shooting that we nut-cases here inflict on them, and if a used S&W LOOKS good, it's a very good chance that it IS good.

In addition, I for one believe that the current-production guns are of lesser quality than many of those made 20 or 30 years ago.

For MY purposes, I frankly detest fixed sights on handguns. That's mostly because of the wild variety of ammunition types that my guns see. In .38, it can run from 120-grain "9mm" bullets to over-200-grainers in some loads, and velocities also vary a lot from load to load.

Your $500 can buy a LOT of quality on the used market. In the last couple of weeks, I've handled two Model 28 "Highway Patrolman" .357s, both in virtually like-new condition, and both owners asking for a good bit UNDER $500. These are heavy N-frame revolvers, and one of the very finest-available .357 guns. I already have three N-frame .357s, so I really didn't need another....but dammit, I was TEMPTED!

The wonderful K-38 and its little brother, the .38 Combat Masterpiece, both have good adjustable sights and often sell for well under $500 as well. In addition, both of these have .22 versions which are IDENTICAL.

I applaud your selection of the S&W brand. They made millions of great guns over many decades, and most are still around. A great website for S&Ws is

www.smith-wessonforum.com

and make sure you check out the "Classified" section down at the bottom of the Main Page. Checking a few weeks' worth of postings there will give you an excellent idea of values, demand, and user attitudes.

Also, it's a very friendly place to visit and ask questions...just like here. I'll suggest that you don't rush into this. Take enought time to study the whole thing.

[calaverasslim]

I'd like to hear peoples' opinions on the S&W Model 10. Besides some of the J-frames, it's about the only Smith I can probably afford. The J frames just seem tiny. Does the mod 10 seem to be decently accurate despite the fixed sights?



I wouldn't reject a J Frame out of hand. If what your looking for a a CCW than J cud be a way to go, but if your looking for a carry gun while hunting, camping etc, thyen there are several Smith's available. I have to agree with this other feller that the older Smiths are better quality then the new ones. Gunbroker.com or auction arms.com have some smith at a really good price. I just bought a I frame 38 S&W for 175. The I frame was the for runner of the J frame and with hand loads this one will do what most 38's will do.

Luck to you.

[Char-Gar]

The Smith and Wesson Military & Police/Model 10 is the service revolver against which all others have been judged for almost 100 years. I have had a score or more of them over the years and they all are more accurate than I am.

[NVcurmudgeon]

For MY purposes, I frankly detest fixed sights on handguns. That's mostly because of the wild variety of ammunition types that my guns see. In .38, it can run from 120-grain "9mm" bullets to over-200-grainers in some loads, and velocities also vary a lot from load to load.



Bruce, could detestation of fixed handgun sights have anything to do with being lefthanded? A lightbulb (original incandescent, naturally) went off in my head when I finally realized that ALL fixed sight handguns shoot to the right for me. Coupling this with observing that most of my adjustable sight handguns are cranked noticeably to the left, it finally dawned on me that fixed handgun sights are not my cup of tea. It only took about forty years to arrive at this epiphany!

[Buckshot]

.................BruceB is right about checking the used market. I paid $350 for my M67 with Pachmeyers and the guy threw in a like new Lawrence holster with it.

http://www.fototime.com/C291714B14F2E4D/standard.jpg

Guess I could have cleaned it before taking it's picture :-)

................Buckshot

[EMC45]

Smith and Wesson- Finest revolver in the World!

[AZMark]

I don't suppose I should totally avoid a J frame. I really like the exposed hammer chief's special, but it's just so small and light. Do you guys (or ladies) out there find that the J-frame is uncomfortable or hard to shoot accurately?

[dubber123]

I don't suppose I should totally avoid a J frame. I really like the exposed hammer chief's special, but it's just so small and light. Do you guys (or ladies) out there find that the J-frame is uncomfortable or hard to shoot accurately?

It sure is, especially with the stock small wood grips. The Uncle Mikes "boot grips" add nothing to the size, but fill in behind the trigger and make them much more comfortable. Yes they are alot harder to shoot than a 4" or even 3" revolver. They can and do shoot well, the one I have carried for the last 15 years or so will stay in 2" or less at 25 yards with wadcutters, but boy is it hard to do! You will shoot a J-frame loose much quicker than a K-frame also.

[shooting on a shoestring]

Mine fits my hand very well with factory grips. Recoil is present with top end loads, but not at all punishing. However, a co-worker can hardly manage to fire, much less hit well with a J-frame b/c his hands are very thick, but fairly short fingered.

I used to carry my Mod 60 and shot about 400 to 500 rounds per month through it. I never had any fatigue or battered hands, just lots of holes where X's used to be.

[GSPKurt]

Have you considered a model 15?

[mastercast.com]

Try a S&W model 12 "snubbie"....perfection in my opinion.

[Bret4207]

I don't suppose I should totally avoid a J frame. I really like the exposed hammer chief's special, but it's just so small and light. Do you guys (or ladies) out there find that the J-frame is uncomfortable or hard to shoot accurately?


Not knowing is self defense is what you're looking for, I'll offer this- S+W used to make, maybe they still do, 3-6" J-frames in 38 Spec with adjustable sights. Much easier to shoot than the true snubbies. I handled a 4 incher once and should have grabbed it then. Sweet! I wish I could stumble onto another with cash on hand.

As for fixed sights, many of the later Model 10's had a wide rear notch and fairly thick front sight. The rear sight was square faced, not the polished curved surface of the older models. They were much easier to use as real sights.

[scrapcan]

I agree with GSPKurt on the Model 15. In the recent past I picked up a 15-3 new in box for about half of your stated budget. I admit I was lucky to get that good of price, but as also stated many people will pass up the 38 special only in hopes of finding the 357. The 15-3 has a 4 inch barrel and shoots very well. I did change out the Magna grips to a set of hougue, but would have been very happy if it had had factory target style stocks. For everyday carry the Magna grips may suit your needs, just not mine.

[homefront]

A model 10-8. I paid $280 a year ago, in like-new condition. I strongly feel that now's the time to purchase clean, older S&W revolvers because they just don't make 'em like they used to.

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[Four Fingers of Death]

Model 10, the benchmark as far as I'm concerned. Beautiful revolver with proven ample killing power with quality ammunition. I carried one off and on at work over 22.5 years. With a set of Pachmyrs, you can't go wrong. I am on the lookout for one for The NSW Police games, they have a service match.

[JonB_in_Glencoe]

The Model 10 is probably my favorite model in 38 spl

[Four Fingers of Death]

Wow! This is an old post, I posted on this thread on April Fool's day in 2008 and finally retired four months after that (consequently no longer having easy access to a Departmental revolver to compete with).

I purchased an ordinary looking Model 10 with 4" Bbl a year or so later. It had been a Security Officer's weapon and had been carried for many years, showed a lot of holster wear and had been bead blasted and matte blued over the wear. The internals are like new though and it shoots a treat!

J Frames were mentioned on this thread as well. They have a dainty forcing cone and we Aussies used to have a short barrelled Service Pistol Match and the J Frame Snubnoses were very popular. Many of the guys were using Wadcutters and these ended up splitting a lot of the forcing cones. They seemd fine with round nosed and 'pointed/ tapered not dustbin shaped' ammo.

[jimb16]

I have 2 S&W .38 specials; a model 10 and a pre-10 VS Victory model. Both shoot like they are radar controlled! They shoot better than I can!

[Texas by God]

I’ve left word at several dealers for a heads up whenever a used S&W .38 Special ANY model shows up. I prefer blued over stainless. The m15 is my favorite but the m10 4” is perfect for fixed ammo. I’d love a m36, too. My favorite snubnose of all.

[Jniedbalski]

I also bought a model 10 and a 62 two years ago for around 249$ all they will ever do is go up.you can’t beat the price.i have noticed there a lot more now .

[txbirdman]

Bought a brand new Model 10 heavy barrel in 1972 for $79.95 for my dad after he experienced a home invasion robbery. I still have it in my safe today. It’s been used heavily over the last 48 years but it’s still my favorite and most trusted handgun. A 158 gr SWC in front of 5 gr of Unique has been my go to load for years.

[35 Whelen]

Back in November I bought a police turn in Model 10 from Classic Arms for my daughter, liked it so well, I started watching for another. Then I won another one in much nicer condition for $285. Was browsing Gunbroker and ran across a really nice Model 15 that I won for $285. All three are really good shooters!

https://i.imgur.com/CbBUFkX.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/1igSpvC.jpg

I shoot these revolvers 3 or 4 days a week, but other than these two, can never think to take pictures of the groups.

I used to not like fixed sights either, it seemed my revolvers with them were always shooting left or right, mostly left. Then I finally figured out that a quality revolver doesn't shoot left or right, the person holding it does. There has been a couple of exceptions in which the revolvers were to blame. Anyhow, the Model 10's have nice heavy sights that are easy to see and shoot really close to POA with a 150-158 gr. cast bullets running 800-950 fps.

35W

[Greg S]

I commented yesterday on the age of this thread but for some reason, my post was deleted.

So, let's try again, Wow - a 12 year old thread.

...and the S&W Model 10 still remains the standard.

I had a few, several 2"s and finally landed a grandma 10-6 4" HB that make a range outting several times a year. Liked it so much, I picked up a S&W Model 65. It is quietly waiting to get bobbed back to 3" and a 1911 dovetail front sight installed on the neked stub.

[wgg]

I recently put a model 10 with a 4" heavy barrel with a round but in layaway, never was interested in a fixed sight revolver until the last year are so. I love to shoot a S&W revolver double action. Puts a smile on my face.

[Jtarm]

Tough to beat this:


https://www.classicfirearms.com/smith-wesson-m10-7-classic-38-spl-4-blued-police-turn-in-hg4224-taper-bbl-revolver/

[Drm50]

I didn’t have any interest in service type revolvers when I first got heavy into guns in early 60s. S&W and Colts were a dime a dozen used. When I started shooting m10s I found that if you shot 158gr police loads they were on the money.

[725]

I was lucky enough to buy my issue when we converted to 9mm. Finest, most accurate workhorse ever made.

[murf205]

Like Four Fingers said in post #22, if you are "financially embarrassed" or just don't want to sink a fortune in a S&W, those security guard and law officers trade-in mod 10's are a good place to start. Most of them have been carried a lot and not shot much at all. In my neck of the woods, mod 15's are about to catch up with mod 19's but a mod 10 can still be had reasonably.254855 I bought this model 10 pencil barrel with no turn line and 3 fired cylinders for $325 at a gun show. I bought a mod 64 double action only gun for $300 so if you are like me and have more time than money, there are deals out there. Go to Budsgunshop.com and search for police trade ins and there are some pretty good deals on S&W revolvers now. Soner or later the law enforcement revolvers are going to dry up as they go to Glocks and M&P's.

[Bill*B]

The model 10 = practical. Nothing to fuss with or about. Just excellent engineering without any flash.

[FergusonTO35]

Love my 1967 10-5. I feed it 3.4 grains Bullseye under any 150-165 grain lead slug.

[Jtarm]

Can’t beat this if you’re thinking about one:


https://www.classicfirearms.com/smith-wesson-m10-7-classic-38-spl-4-blued-police-turn-in-hg4224-taper-bbl-revolver/

[M-Tecs]

I prefer the 4" heavy barrel https://www.classicfirearms.com/smith-wesson-m10-classic-38-spl-4-blued-police-turn-in-hg4151-10-6/

[jrayborn]

S&W Model 10 is a classic, everyone should own one, or two...

[Cheeto303]

Try a S&W model 12 "snubbie"....perfection in my opinion.

A few years ago my wife gave me a S&W Model 12-2 Nickled (pinned & recessed) w/2"Bbl. for my birthday. I really love this gun. What's really amazing is that she talked the guy down to $175.00. She has a good eye and can haggle. I keep it stoked with Federal Nyclads.

The Model 10 is a great revolver. I picked up one of the European re-imports w/4" Heavy Bbl about 10 years ago. I think they were going for around $200.00 back then. Very nice solid gun. I use it when locking the chickens up at night. I've dispatched countless coons,possums,feral cats and lately armadillos with it using the RCBS 358-150-SWC.

[Outpost75]

I figured out long ago that a pistol or revolver which weighed more than 24 ozs. loaded was too heavy for pocket carry. Since I have retired and grown more "portly" I have taken to wearing suspenders for comfort, and do not routinely wear a belt or belt holster anymore, because a heavy belt is a "tell" that you are carrying and I prefer to be more discreet.

I have acquired several S&W Model 12 Airweight .38 Specials in both 4" and 2", both round butt and square butt and a pair of these is my usual EDC because I prefer six shots to five and find that a full-sized K-frame with Tyler T-Grip is more controllable than a J-frame. A 2" snubby resides in the strong side hip pocket and a 4-incher in winter in the barn coat pocket. In summer I often carry a second snubby as a "New York Reload". A 4-incher also resides in my travel bag as a spare gun, so I always have two revolvers, two Speed Strips of spare ammo and 100 rounds of extra ammo in the travel bag rolling trolley.

I avoid +P loads in the airweight guns, but find that a "full charge" wadcutter assembled with the Remington 148-grain HBWC bullet and 3.2 grains of Bullseye, a cast 146 DEWC similar to Saeco #348 with 3.5 grains of Bullseye, or the Speer 135-grain Gold Dot "short barrel" JHP bullet with 4.1-4.2 grains of Bullseye (standard pressure and not +P) perform well, are accurate and don't beat up the guns.

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I also have several steel-frame M&Ps in 2", 4" and 6" for high-volume practice, so as not to beat up the airweight guns. A 6" fixed-sight, steel-frame M&P Hand Ejector or Colt OP resides in the Get Home Bag, depending upon the vehicle, so that I have something which will reach out farther to over 50 yards if not toting a rifle, which can handle a modest amount of +P without shaking the gun apart. Works for me!

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[ddixie884]

A 4" K frame is hard to beat. I shoot my 15-3 more around the place than any other handgun I have.

I really like my 4" M-12 but am really afraid I'll damage it shooting heavy loads......

[JMax]

I have a 4” M13-3 that is a dream to shoot just the 357 brother of the M10, as stated you cannot go wrong with these and I can still see the sights with 70+ year old eyes.

[TNsailorman]

I have a Model 13-3 also but it has a 3 inch barrel. It is my carry gun now.