S&W M&P Pistols

[HollandNut]

are they DA only ?? Or first round DA then SA ?/

[scattershot]

They are striker fired SA, like a Glock, if you're talking about the M&P 9, 40, etc.

[Jupiter7]

Actually considered double action per IDPA. The springfield XD is/was considered single action. Either way, same pull from one shot to next.

[osteodoc08]

What's the cylinder length of the 27 series vs the GP-100

[MtGun44]

I think he means the modern semi-auto pistols. Those of us of a certain age (me included)
think of the S&W Model 10 .38 Spl when the term "S&W M&P" is used.

Youngsters who don't know about revolvers think this is an original name.

Bill

[HollandNut]

I'm of that certain age as well , and yes I am referring to the new semi autos , which after looking at the 45 in real life today , I would not have , gimme a 1911 framed 45 , and to get techy in a way , revolvers and pistols in my book are two different creatures , pistol should not be used in reference to a revolver , tho my CCW says pistol permit , and I can conceal either one ..

picky picky

[williamwaco]

are they DA only ?? Or first round DA then SA ?/

First round can be fired either way.

You can fire it double action and cock the hammer with the trigger, or you can cock the hammer manually and fire it single action.

Second round the hammer would be cocked by the action cycling and normal operation would be single action.

[Piedmont]

First round can be fired either way.

You can fire it double action and cock the hammer with the trigger, or you can cock the hammer manually and fire it single action.

Second round the hammer would be cocked by the action cycling and normal operation would be single action.

I don't think so William. I think we are discussing the polymer striker fired M&P with no hammer.

[Jupiter7]

I don't think so William. I think we are discussing the polymer striker fired M&P with no hammer.

I believe he's referring to gen 3 s&w autos like the 59 series, which were da/SA and DAO. But your right, William is mistaken.

But for clarification's sake, the OP is referring to current production polymer framed, semi-auto, striker fired handguns in 9,40,357sig and 45auto, referred to as the S&W M&P.

[redleg1013]

357sig S&W M&P.

I have never seen such a creature, much like baby pigeons; surely they must exist, but I have never seen one.

[HollandNut]

redleg is correct , the "new" M&P doesn't come in 357 SIG , only 9 , 40 and 45

[Jupiter7]

redleg is correct , the "new" M&P doesn't come in 357 SIG , only 9 , 40 and 45

Weird, I just figured they did. Don't own one, probably never will.

[SSGOldfart]

Yep that's about it I give Mine to my D-I-L. It's to boxy feeling to me I'm going to try the Kimber 9mms myself,I've carried the 1911 or my Dan Wesson for over 40years now

[Piedmont]

There are M&Ps in .357 Sig floating around, they just aren't made at the moment.

[freebullet]

Striker fired, same somewhat weird trigger pull each shot. Wonderful ergonomics not so great trigger. I had the 9 it was a good gun, just didn't like the trigger enough to keep it. I'd bet the 45 would be a handful due to their lightweight compared to a 1911. Rather have a lightweight 1911 or xd myself.

[DLCTEX]

My son has the full size 9mm and wife has the shield. Both shoot great. You can get an aftermarket barrel in 357 Sign to convert the 40, or with barrel and mag to 9mm.

[Rick Hodges]

I have a M&P Shield 40 for my carry gun. It is a polymer framed striker fired pistol. I much prefer it to the Glock 23 that I own. It has superior ergonomics and a better trigger. Yes it leads rapidly with cast but cleans up readily. It has an abrupt transition, chamber to rifling, and needs throating. It has functioned flawlessly with factory HP's (WW & Speer) and about 400rds. of cast.

[robertbank]

To the OP if you are considering one in 9MM make sure you get a newer production gun with a 1 - 10 twist. The first guns were made with 1 - 18 twist barrels in 9MM and they won't stabilize a 147 gr bullet worth a hoot. I shoot IDPA and had bullets tumbling inside of 10 yards. All new production is 1 - 10 twist.

I have four of them and the guns work great nary a malfunction after four years of competition. 2 x 9MM and 2 x 4ocal.

Take Care

Bob

[HollandNut]

I would never consider anything smaller than 45 in any weapon , especially pistol/revolver

[robertbank]

Striker fired, same somewhat weird trigger pull each shot. Wonderful ergonomics not so great trigger. I had the 9 it was a good gun, just didn't like the trigger enough to keep it. I'd bet the 45 would be a handful due to their lightweight compared to a 1911. Rather have a lightweight 1911 or xd myself.

If you replace the USB with an Apex tactical block the trigger pull becomes as smooth as glass. You can go to a competition kit reducing the trigger pull to jus over 3#'s or the defensive kit which takes the trigger to just over 5#s. Either way Apex trigger parts solves the M&P FS trigger instantly. I found, just to smooth the triiger replacing the USB is all you really have to do. The guns are ridiculously easy to work on. I have had mine down to the frames several times and I am about as mechanically gifted as a four thumbed slug.

Take Care

Bob

[MtGun44]

A friend has a .45 M&P with the Apex part(s) and it has a really good, very useable
trigger. I am a trigger snob - I put a 2 lb crisp on my for serious 1911s and that
is my comparison. Lots of guns are "OK" but the modded M&P can be "quite nice".
I'd say if I was forced to not use a 1911, the .45 M&P with the modded trigger would
be a real workable substitute.

Bill

[silverado]

First round can be fired either way.

You can fire it double action and cock the hammer with the trigger, or you can cock the hammer manually and fire it single action.

Second round the hammer would be cocked by the action cycling and normal operation would be single action.

This seems to me a very smart man who is wrong this time for once...
I had one. Basically trigger feel is a little bit gritty take up followed by pretty crisp single action break.
It is striker fired but feels comparable to me like a single action. I traded one recently. Not a bad pistol at all. Yes they come in 357 sig. Get the 40 or 357 please so you can get an aftermarket 9mm barrel. If I did that I may have not traded.
As a side note I had a sigma 9mm and the trigger as far as feel was a double action. The m&p cock the striker back on cycling. The sigma does not so pulling the trigger is what pulls the striker back. After I polished the internals it wasn't too bad but still.not super smooth since the plastic frame is a rubbing surface.

[silverado]

Also I did not like the feel of a glock at all and the m&p was quite nice but I ended up trading it for a 6409.... far superior weapon imho

[scattershot]

To whoever was worried about the recoil, don't. I have a .45c, and it's the softest shooting of all my 45s. Not sure why that is, maybe the "give" in the plastic frame, but that's the way it is.