Catshooter
03-27-2014, 02:49 PM
Interesting the people you can connect up with the internet that you never would have met before it.
One of our members lives a few hundred miles from me in North Dakota. Let's call him J if he wants to chime in he can.
He and some friends like to shoot long range and they have the space to do so. They've been doing it for quite some time and have even taken videos. I have done a little, not much really, just enough to know that it can be done and that Elmer wasn't lying.
Under the right conditions, say the sun behind you and low you can see the light reflecting from the base of the boolit/bullet. It helps if it's jacketed. I first saw this in the late seventies. Forty four magnum with jacketed and the sun low behind me. The base of the bullet shined like crazy and was very easy to see.
Well J and friends also saw their bullets in flight but they were smarter than me and videoed them.
The results are very interesting. Some fly straight and true out past 500 yards. Some veer off to the side after 100 yards, some make it further before veering. Is this what a golfer calls slicing? :)
So some projectiles that are touted as 'long range' aren't. And some that you'd think would hardly make 50 yards are stable as all get out. They've had a hard time really pining down a formula of what works and what doesn't but they've figured out a few things. Winds from any direction really magnify any issues with the bullet.
Anyway here's a pic J sent me showing five examples of the RCBS 270 SAA boolit.
http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo235/Catshooter45/IMG95201403169512122395045_zps3fa9ad47.jpg (http://s379.photobucket.com/user/Catshooter45/media/IMG95201403169512122395045_zps3fa9ad47.jpg.html)
The two on the right will shoot well past 200 yards. The other three won't hit your house at 300.
Another point of interest is the differences in moulds. Of course Lyman is famous for changing design details over the years. RCBS is about as bad, if not worse, they just haven't been building moulds as long as Lyman. Obviously some changes make sense but some are just sloppiness? Laziness? Of course both companies are filled with non shooters. I'm sure there are some who shoot, but the majority aren't shooters. Or so I think. They don't sound it when I talk to them.
Anyway I'm encouraging J to see if we can get his video which is in an older format copies onto something that we can post to this board. It's a little scary to mail the only copy you have of a video that wasn't easy to make off to some stranger, hope he doesn't screw it up and then it makes it back through the mail. We'll see.
Cat
One of our members lives a few hundred miles from me in North Dakota. Let's call him J if he wants to chime in he can.
He and some friends like to shoot long range and they have the space to do so. They've been doing it for quite some time and have even taken videos. I have done a little, not much really, just enough to know that it can be done and that Elmer wasn't lying.
Under the right conditions, say the sun behind you and low you can see the light reflecting from the base of the boolit/bullet. It helps if it's jacketed. I first saw this in the late seventies. Forty four magnum with jacketed and the sun low behind me. The base of the bullet shined like crazy and was very easy to see.
Well J and friends also saw their bullets in flight but they were smarter than me and videoed them.
The results are very interesting. Some fly straight and true out past 500 yards. Some veer off to the side after 100 yards, some make it further before veering. Is this what a golfer calls slicing? :)
So some projectiles that are touted as 'long range' aren't. And some that you'd think would hardly make 50 yards are stable as all get out. They've had a hard time really pining down a formula of what works and what doesn't but they've figured out a few things. Winds from any direction really magnify any issues with the bullet.
Anyway here's a pic J sent me showing five examples of the RCBS 270 SAA boolit.
http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo235/Catshooter45/IMG95201403169512122395045_zps3fa9ad47.jpg (http://s379.photobucket.com/user/Catshooter45/media/IMG95201403169512122395045_zps3fa9ad47.jpg.html)
The two on the right will shoot well past 200 yards. The other three won't hit your house at 300.
Another point of interest is the differences in moulds. Of course Lyman is famous for changing design details over the years. RCBS is about as bad, if not worse, they just haven't been building moulds as long as Lyman. Obviously some changes make sense but some are just sloppiness? Laziness? Of course both companies are filled with non shooters. I'm sure there are some who shoot, but the majority aren't shooters. Or so I think. They don't sound it when I talk to them.
Anyway I'm encouraging J to see if we can get his video which is in an older format copies onto something that we can post to this board. It's a little scary to mail the only copy you have of a video that wasn't easy to make off to some stranger, hope he doesn't screw it up and then it makes it back through the mail. We'll see.
Cat