Traded for a VZ52 rifle.

[Freightman]

May be sorry as the dies are expensive and I have to make the brass but looks like a interesting rifle. Will try to post pictures when it get here if I can figure this new computer out. Any comments beside hard to find ammo for would be appreciated. Yes it will shoot cast as I have not shot a jacketed bullet in years.

[arjacobson]

I have one and have been through the brass making/conversion. I use lees 155 sks mold in mine with aluminum gas checks. Basically I duplicated a sks load and the rifle works perfect and is very accurate. 22 grains of 4198. BTW it ejects out the left side..LOL Great rifles!!

[TCLouis]

What base brass did you use to form the brass for the 7.62X45?

[DaveInFloweryBranchGA]

What base brass did you use to form the brass for the 7.62X45?

Before you look at making brass, try Buffalo Arms. They probably have some of the brass, at least enough to make up 50 rounds or so. They're out of stock right now, but are allowing backorders, a good indication.

Linky: http://www.buffaloarms.com/Buffalo_Arms_Reloading_Brass_it-157820.aspx?CAT=3842

Hope this helps,

[arjacobson]

I started with 220 swift brass. Resize-trim to length-turn ejector and rim down. Some guys use other parent brass but 220 swift worked the best for me. I might have some unfired brass left if you are interested. Cheaper than Buffalo arms too...

[madsenshooter]

Why not 6.5x54, Graf's has PRVI on sale now, or 6.5 Carcano? Looks easier to me.

[mikeym1a]

The Handloader's Manual of Cartridge Conversions says to use .220 Swift brass. This is curious. It also tells you to use .270 brass to make the .220 swift. Very curious. madsenshooter has it right. From what I saw, the 6.5X54MS simply needs running through a full length sizing die, and cutting to length. Its about .005 bigger head diameter, but, if you have the normal generous military chamber, it would probably go right in. The Carcano would need only a bit more, and they are probably cheaper than the stock case, which midway lists @ $2.00/case. Sounds like a neat gun. The czechs always did try to stand apart from the soviet norm. Cheers!

[Freightman]

Thanks for the info think I will like the rifle. I am basically a single shot rifle shoter, will be a change

[arjacobson]

When I tried 6.5 MS the base of the brass was too big.??? I don't remember why but it was going to be more work than using 220 swift. I ground a lathe tool that matches the extractor groove. I turn the od of the rim-then I run the tool to an indicator and plunge the extractor groove. The fixture I use is a pc of tool steel that I taper bored to match the brass taper. Just tap the formed brass into the fixture-make the cut-tap it back out through the headstock with a wood dowel. The fixture stays in the chuck. Some of the brass I have formed has been shot and reloaded 6-7 times. Very accurate rifles.. I like them and am always looking for used beaters for cheap. Hang in there with the brass mods and dies!!

[30calflash]

I looked into it once and it looked like 30 or 32 Remington would do it. Hard to find but not impossible.

There's a chance that 6.8 SPC might work, might be a little short.

[UBER7MM]

I looked into it once and it looked like 30 or 32 Remington would do it. Hard to find but not impossible.

Use a lathe to turn the rim off and then cut a rimless extractor ring in 30-30 brass cases to make 30 Rem. Then size and trim accordingly.

Now, if I only had a lathe.....

[perotter]

Use a lathe to turn the rim off and then cut a rimless extractor ring in 30-30 brass cases to make 30 Rem. Then size and trim accordingly.

Now, if I only had a lathe.....

I did that very thing to make up enough 30 Rem cases years ago. The 30-30 brass was free. I counted my time and the electricity for the lathe as entertainment.

[kywoodwrkr]

Were I to make some 7,62x45 I'd start out with 7,35x51 Carcano brass. Not 6,5 - 7,35.
Grafs $46.99/c and $223.30/5c(Dealers price though)
Just checked-non Dealer Price 41.99/c and prices include shipping it says.

[Freightman]

Were I to make some 7,62x45 I'd start out with 7,35x51 Carcano brass. Not 6,5 - 7,35.
Grafs $46.99/c and $223.30/5c(Dealers price though)
Just checked-non Dealer Price 41.99/c and prices include shipping it says.
Thanks this is my plan hope to get things rolling when it gets here.

[Charley]

The Handloader's Manual of Cartridge Conversions says to use .220 Swift brass. This is curious. It also tells you to use .270 brass to make the .220 swift. Very curious. madsenshooter has it right. From what I saw, the 6.5X54MS simply needs running through a full length sizing die, and cutting to length. Its about .005 bigger head diameter, but, if you have the normal generous military chamber, it would probably go right in. The Carcano would need only a bit more, and they are probably cheaper than the stock case, which midway lists @ $2.00/case. Sounds like a neat gun. The czechs always did try to stand apart from the soviet norm. Cheers!
Yeah, he also says to make 7.5x55 from 7.62x54R. Can be done, but why? Don't believe everything you read in it. You can make a case from a brass rod if you want to spend the time and trouble. I tend to look for the easier way...

[madsenshooter]

30 Rem is too small in the head at .414". Best bet would be to contact CH and get a die to swage the .447" 7.35 Carcano head down to the .443 diameter you need. Especially if you don't have machine tools or don't want to thin the head manually, like some others have posted on other forums. That could be dangerous. CH made me a die/pusher combo once to swage 7.62 Nato down to max 6.5 Arisaka dimension of .460. Pushed the whole case up into a 8x56MS die, then knocked it out with a rod. Got a few more thousandths with some other dies. But they'd be able to come up with just what you need. On the other hand, if you got the machine tools to do the swift cases, have fun with it.

If I had a smaller pusher, I have an old, hardened 30/40 file trim die that'd just about do it. Seriously though, the guys at CH can set you right up. With a small press I had to keep close to the cam over point and get little bites turning the die down slowly until I got the brass all the way in the die. Then I got a Redding Ultramag press, one stroke with Imperial sizing die wax.

[Freightman]

see if i can post pictures, I took the black bed liner paint off.

[greenmntranger]

I had one in 7.65X45 Czech , sold it here. Great little gun just didn't want the hassle of reloading for it. amassed a good supply of steel and brass cased milsurp for her. Took her to the range a bunch and loved her. Could ring steel @ 100 yards pretty constantly (7 or 8 out of 10). Great little gun

[Freightman]

I have made brass for a Swiss 41 and a french BPCR .454 and a few other rifles, so not a real big deal and it keeps me off the streets and chasing women, Ha Ha at my age I don't chase anything.:lol:

[troyboy]

How did you remove the bed liner finish?

[Freightman]

heat gun and a dull knife little at a time take your time