More fun at the range w/Buffalo Classic

[Jim Flinchbaugh]

Little excursion yesterday, to get sighted in for this Sundays gong shoot.
45 grains H4895, Fed 210, Lee 405-459HB cast with range lead, carnuba red
100 yards on bags

5 shots= joy :mrgreen:
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[Bo1]

Nice shooting there Jim

[johnson1942]

its a fun gun, was shooting mine also to day.

[Tatume]

Looks like it is working well for you.

[35 shooter]

Gooooood shootin! I think you like that old classic! I've been thinking hard about one for quite some time with the idea of playing with black powder and smokeless loads in it. Things like this make me think even harder about it.

[Bzcraig]

that is horrible, I can't believe you posted the pic!

[tacklebury]

Great man. Nice shooting. 8)

[Jim Flinchbaugh]

with the idea of playing with black powder and smokeless loads in it. Things like this make me think even harder about it.
If you find one -do it. I am in process right now of gather goodies for the holy black. Got my blow tube made, drop tube is made -just need tp make the stand for it.
'bout to start on the compression die. Payday is order powder, wads etc. Oh, pan lube for BP is made too

[Walter Laich]

Very nice group--at my age wish I could still see out to 100 yards;)

[rexherring]

Sweet shooter by the looks of the group. I may need to try that load, I already have that mold.

[pietro]

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Good on you ! . :drinks:

I found that my BC was waaaay too much fun, for me, when shooting game loads. :violin:


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[Dutchman]

Are these Buffalo Classic drilled/tapped for scope mount?

Dutch

[Nrut]

yes they are..

[tacklebury]

If you are scoping the .45-70 and using full power loads, you might want to up the quality of the base and scope a bit to handle the recoil. I thought I'd put a scope on just for load development once, and one shot and it died. 8(

Warne makes a good steel base:
http://swfa.com/Warne-Maxima-1-Piece-Base-P11794.aspx

Burris Signature Zee Rings:
http://www.opticsplanet.com/burris-zee-signature-1-rifle-scope-mount-rings-for-weaver-style-bases.html?gclid=CJji_73ZrL0CFQsSMwodwiwAfA

or:
Leupold PRW/QRW rings:
http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item.asp?sku=0015454149

and a scope that can take the abuse:

If on a budget the Bushnell Banner is rated as one that can take the recoil by many .45-70 users:
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/748138/bushnell-banner-rifle-scope-15-45x-32mm-wide-angle-multi-x-reticle-matte?cm_vc=ProductFinding

[Catshooter]

I agree with tacklebury.

I used four 8 x 40 screws to hold my scout mount scope for my 22 inch H&R 45-70.


Cat

[NVScouter]

If you are scoping the .45-70 and using full power loads, you might want to up the quality of the base and scope a bit to handle the recoil. I thought I'd put a scope on just for load development once, and one shot and it died. 8(

Warne makes a good steel base:
http://swfa.com/Warne-Maxima-1-Piece-Base-P11794.aspxm

Burris Signature Zee Rings:
http://www.opticsplanet.com/burris-zee-signature-1-rifle-scope-mount-rings-for-weaver-style-bases.html?gclid=CJji_73ZrL0CFQsSMwodwiwAfA

or:
Leupold PRW/QRW rings:
http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item.asp?sku=0015454149

and a scope that can take the abuse:

If on a budget the Bushnell Banner is rated as one that can take the recoil by many .45-70 users:
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/748138/bushnell-banner-rifle-scope-15-45x-32mm-wide-angle-multi-x-reticle-matte?cm_vc=ProductFinding

Just buy the H&R 1 piece base. It's fantastic and solid. I run a 4X Burriss on my 45-70.

[azrednek]

that is horrible, I can't believe you posted the pic!

Agreed!! Keep rubbing it in and I'll be buying one before to long.

[Bohica793]

The only thing keeping me from buying one right now is the fact that I have a wedding to get past in 10 days (youngest son). Once that is done and I pay off some of that expense, I will be investing on one of these poor examples of a buffalo gun. After all, I already have the dies, brass, primers, powder, bullet molds and a number of already built custom rounds.....I should go ahead and get the gun to shoot them in.

And BTW, Jim....I blame YOU.

[Jim Flinchbaugh]

And BTW, Jim....I blame YOU.

Him, I'm Jim, and I'm an enabler [smilie=2:

[Bohica793]

I told my wife it was your fault. She made some grumbling noise deep in her throat and mumbled something about "hunting that so-and-so down...". Last I saw, she was headed out the door with the bloodhound.

[Jim Flinchbaugh]

Well, we'll just have to see what her disposition is when she finds me :)

[NVScouter]

I really need to give my BC a trigger job, tang site, and finish the recoil pad install. I wasnt super impressed with mine and shelved it for this summer's project. Seeing groups like this give me the itch however.................

[Bohica793]

Please, don't waste your valuable time. Just send it to me.

[NVScouter]

Please, don't waste your valuable time. Just send it to me.

Sure thing. When the funds are deposited I'll ship it right out!

[rfd]

congrats - that's really some great shooting!

the bc is definitely a capable s/s rifle, and i tricked mine out with a mercury tube in the stock, a doubled kick killer butt pad, and a smith ladder rear peep sight.

i don't see a need to hone the trigger, and the word is that after a short while it'll smooth out, and i can attest to that. some folks "work the trigger" by cocking and releasing while easing the hammer down, others puff in some graphite (just a little) and dry fire with a dummy round.

i should add - with regards to the handi triggers, i've been told the sintered metal is thinly hardened, and taking off too much metal will quickly ruin that part and require a replacement! be careful!

i haven't cast lead for it yet, using commercial penn and lazer bullets, but i have all the right molds including the 535grn lyman postell and the lee 405hb and will begin casting as the weather gets better.

i may go black with it, but for now i'm loading aa5744 and getting some decent results at 100 yards. i love the .45-70!

http://i.imgur.com/1XgaFVG.jpg

[tacklebury]

Mines prepping to get it's first full dose of leads. Doing a combination of 330 gr. Lyman "gould" hp boolits and RCBS 350 gr. RNFP's.

102084 102085

[Nobade]

congrats - that's really some great shooting!

the bc is definitely a capable s/s rifle, and i tricked mine out with a mercury tube in the stock, a doubled kick killer butt pad, and a smith ladder rear peep sight.

i don't see a need to hone the trigger, and the word is that after a short while it'll smooth out, and i can attest to that. some folks "work the trigger" by cocking and releasing while easing the hammer down, others puff in some graphite (just a little) and dry fire with a dummy round.

i should add - with regards to the handi triggers, i've been told the sintered metal is thinly hardened, and taking off too much metal will quickly ruin that part and require a replacement! be careful!

i haven't cast lead for it yet, using commercial penn and lazer bullets, but i have all the right molds including the 535grn lyman postell and the lee 405hb and will begin casting as the weather gets better.

i may go black with it, but for now i'm loading aa5744 and getting some decent results at 100 yards. i love the .45-70!

http://i.imgur.com/1XgaFVG.jpg

Hi there RFD!
Good to see you around these parts too. This is where most of the interesting talk is happening, that OTHER forum has gotten too stuffy!

I thought that rifle looked familiar....

-Nobade

[azrednek]

I really wish you guys would stop praising the Buffalo Classic. Its no longer a matter of maybe some day. It is now, when. A beautiful Buffalo Classic follows me home. With my gunshow strategy of sell high buy low nearly always being flip-flopped. I can now blame Jim Flinchbaugh for getting this started and Norbade's photography skills for robbing the piggy bank. I can assure you that immediately following the "oh no not another" lecture I will hold you accountable and seek revenge. If guilt feelings don't keep you guys from sleeping tonight. I hope you have vivid reoccurring dreams of a roll in the hay with Nancy Pelosi.

Leg pulling and BS aside. A few months ago I watched a shooter at the range with the simple version. A H&R single shot with a short barrel. He was about 3 or 4 lanes down and what looked like either 45/70 or possibly 444 Marlin. Although he was only shooting 50 yards with what looked to be a Red Dot scope. The young looking shooter was printing some pretty tight shot groups.

[azrednek]

If on a budget the Bushnell Banner is rated as one that can take the recoil by many .45-70 users:
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/748138/bushnell-banner-rifle-scope-15-45x-32mm-wide-angle-multi-x-reticle-matte?cm_vc=ProductFinding

Thanks for posting that!! Four inches of eye relief for a cheapie is a pretty good deal. Seems like all scopes claim to be shockproof. The ad says lifetime warranty to the original owner. My guess is, it is really shockproof if they are willing to back it up with a lifetime warranty.

[Jim Flinchbaugh]

I can now blame Jim Flinchbaugh for getting this started a

Doode, break out the wallet- you aint gonna find a better deal and free shipping!
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_262/products_id/89043/H%26R+Single+Shot+45-70+w32%22+BarrelCase+Hardened+ReceiverWa

[Jim Flinchbaugh]

BTW :p :p :p :p :p :p :p
:mrgreen:

[Jim Flinchbaugh]

I was in a gun shop yesterday while 120 miles from home, they had a new, H&R 45-70 regular version, in the rack
for 219.00 I didnt have enough $$$$

[azrednek]

Doode, break out the wallet- you aint gonna find a better deal and free shipping!
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_262/products_id/89043/H%26R+Single+Shot+45-70+w32%22+BarrelCase+Hardened+ReceiverWa

Saw one about 5 or 6 weeks ago listed locally on Backpage.com. The ad read something like, like new shot less than one box asking $275.00. The "asking" part really got my attention. I called immediately and was told "I just gave a caller directions", telling me he'd call back if he didn't sell it. I waited very impatiently for about an hour, phone never rang. When I called back as you figured it was gone along with the ammo and brass.

[wgr]

i could not see buying two of them . so i bought one stock: set ,one receiver and two barrels.:grin:

[jonp]

I was just looking at the Buds gun. I was reading another forum and surplus powder interested me because of the price point.

[Kevinakaq]

From Walter Laich---"Very nice group--at my age wish I could still see out to 100 yards"

Always reminds me of the John Wayne line from Big Jake when his son shoots the mule deer with a scoped rifle and his son offers to let him shoot (was his real life son too) - " Hell I cant even see that far!"

And this thread is killing me. I recently traded for a h&r handi in 45-70 and absolultly having a blast working up cast loads for it......BUT the BC is calling my name...........

[jonp]

Just looking at Buds again. They have the H&R in 444Marlin and 35Whelen for about $200. Seems like a good deal with the free shipping then send the action into H&R to get fitted with the longer 45-70 barrel. Buy the forestock later on. I'm trying to figure out a need for a 35Whelen.

[Catshooter]

jonp,

What's this need you speak of?


Cat

[35 shooter]

jonp you NEED a whelen bbl. to keep the 45/70 bbl. company.[smilie=s:

[azrednek]

jonp,What's this need you speak of? Cat

OMG!! EVERYBODY, Cast Boolit admirers especially need at least one, preferably 2 or more 35 Whelens. I say string him up after at least 100 lashes.

[jonp]

I couldn't take the pressure from you guys. My 35 Whelen will be here this week. $207 shipped.
This place has the worst group of enablers on the net

[Jim Flinchbaugh]

"Choke hold mode" released. You have been assimilated[smilie=l:

[Catshooter]

Guilty as charged. Unlikely to change either. :)


Cat