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gunoil
03-17-2014, 11:32 PM
For goodness sakes, why didnt dillon put a scaled up rl-550 primer system on the xl-650? The same retrac system is on my 1050. My aching @$&.

jmorris
03-17-2014, 11:44 PM
The 650 primer system is unlike all of the others. The SD, 550 and 1050 use the same dam plastic oraface tip. The 650 is the only one that has the brass tip.

What problem are you having?

VHoward
03-17-2014, 11:50 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dillon-XL-650-Missed-LIVE-Primer-Chute-Ski-Jump-Fix-Upgrade-/281287488407?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item417e0a7397
I bought this thing. Keeps missed primers from being launched onto the floor. That is the only gripe I have with the xl650 is it feeds a primer for every stroke whether there is a case there to be primed or not.

I did have a square deal b that had a primer system similar to the 550's and I had a few hiccups with it. Never had any of those problems with the xl650's primer system.

rodsvet
03-18-2014, 01:08 AM
The primer system on my 650 has always worked flawlessly. I've broken just about every other part in 25 years but the primer system is great.

6bg6ga
03-18-2014, 06:35 AM
The only problem I've had with my 650 was when it cycled to tended to spill powder out of the shell casing when it indexed. I solved the problem by removing one turn off the spring. I've had zero problems with the priming system.

6bg6ga
03-18-2014, 06:38 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dillon-XL-650-Missed-LIVE-Primer-Chute-Ski-Jump-Fix-Upgrade-/281287488407?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item417e0a7397
I bought this thing. Keeps missed primers from being launched onto the floor. That is the only gripe I have with the xl650 is it feeds a primer for every stroke whether there is a case there to be primed or not.

I did have a square deal b that had a primer system similar to the 550's and I had a few hiccups with it. Never had any of those problems with the xl650's primer system.

Sure its going to feed a primer with every stroke as it was designed to do so. I didn't buy that high priced ebay primer catcher. I just keep an eye on it and generally have no primers being launched onto the floor.

gunoil
03-18-2014, 08:02 AM
Yea vhoward i bought that.

Primer system of 650 never fails but 550 never fails either. "BUT".

You can also remove this below too & primers want move:

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k511/putt2012/null_zpsde535737.jpg

Above is part#13670 (primer cam) Needs a quick pull ring on it, hehehe.

gunoil
03-18-2014, 08:12 AM
Another thing, you cant mount 650 to any thickness of table because if too thick nylon nut (13841) on bottom of handle shaft (13855)will hit when ram is up. When they cast the 650 body they should have brought ram toward us by 3/4 of inch and 650 would fit any table. This same table holds 550 with no prob. The answer.

Ya have to do this with certian table thickness.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k511/putt2012/null_zps709632ba.jpg

650 has to come toward you a inch.

gunoil
03-18-2014, 08:18 AM
I wanta (ordered one /$12 w-hardware. Cargo bar from walmart or ebay not included) put one of these on my 650.
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k511/putt2012/null_zps3a583557.jpg

mikesreloadingbench.com ($10 bucks w/hardware)

jmorris
03-18-2014, 09:28 AM
Primer system of 650 never fails

Ok you have me confused now. What is it that you not like a system that never fails?

I generally avoid primers jumping out by having sized and deprimed brass go from station 1 to station 2. If you want to cycle the machine without priming or loosing primers loop a ziptie over the primer tube and around the indexing arm holding it back.

jmorris
03-18-2014, 09:30 AM
What does the thing bolted to the LEE do? Looks like maybe trying to make up for a flexing bench?

gunoil
03-18-2014, 10:24 AM
read his site jm! It will explain.

jm read post#1
Youve seen it zillon times on hi tek sticky. Go aggrivate someone else with a different opinion.

my table is 800lbs, Solid steel.

solid mounted presses still move a lil' ,, every thing helps

gunoil
03-18-2014, 10:53 AM
The 650 primer system is unlike all of the others. The SD, 550 and 1050 use the same dam plastic oraface tip. The 650 is the only one that has the brass tip.

What problem are you having?

To answer your facetious ? jm. No probs with primer system on 650, it works! Except for carring you bottle around to re/re-reload in 650. I just wish they had put a retrac primer system on it. Mr factious.

Alvarez Kelly
03-18-2014, 11:17 AM
What's a retrac primer system? I have read and re-read your posts. I still have no clue what it is you don't like about the XL650.

sparky45
03-18-2014, 11:48 AM
What's a retrac primer system? I have read and re-read your posts. I still have no clue what it is you don't like about the XL650.
AK, I think what he's referring to is the retractable primer system that has been developed for the Lee Loadmaster, it won't feed a primer if there isn't a case to accept it. At least that's what I think he's referring to.

dragonrider
03-18-2014, 11:56 AM
I too would rather have a case activated primer system on my 650. The only complaint I have about the press.

gunoil
03-18-2014, 01:27 PM
The retract system comes on the rl 550 and 1050. There is a aftermarket on for loadmaster, you have that right sparky. It may come on the SDB, dont know.

luky-dude
03-18-2014, 01:49 PM
To answer your facetious ? jm. No probs with primer system on 650, it works! Except for carring you bottle around to re/re-reload in 650. I just wish they had put a retrac primer system on it. Mr factious.

Well we finally got it out of ya.

jeff423
03-18-2014, 02:50 PM
You can put a cut off rubber glove finger over the primer chute to keep primers from getting on the floor. Cost is about 5 cents. As someone pointed earlier it is easy to remove the primer cam to keep primers from dropping until you want them to. 5/32 Hex wrench.

Jeff

jeff423
03-18-2014, 02:53 PM
Yea vhoward i bought that.

Primer system of 650 never fails but 550 never fails either. "BUT".

You can also remove this below too & primers want move:

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k511/putt2012/null_zpsde535737.jpg

Above is part#13670 (primer cam) Needs a quick pull ring on it, hehehe.

Somebody was selling that part a few years ago on either this or the S&W forum.

Jeff

jmorris
03-18-2014, 03:18 PM
To answer your facetious ? jm. No probs with primer system on 650, it works! Except for carring you bottle around to re/re-reload in 650. I just wish they had put a retrac primer system on it. Mr factious.

I was not trying to be factious just trying to figure out what exactly you didn't like and maybe help you with a soultion.

Like the ziptie to hault the flow of primers I posted in #10. Its faster that removing the primer cam and requires no tools. I'll post a photo when I get back to a press.

David2011
03-18-2014, 03:30 PM
Huh. I've had a 550 for 23 years and have always considered its priming system to be its weak link. I far prefer the 650's priming system but I've only been using it for 8 years. I can live with the unused primer collection and don't think I've ever had one jump out of the little collection tray, but then if it gets seeral primers in it I remove them.

David

gunoil
03-18-2014, 03:55 PM
For goodness sakes, why didnt dillon put a scaled up rl-550 primer system on the xl-650? The same retrac system is on my 1050. My aching @$&.

luky dude:
read above, this is a dillon thread. If you dont know dillon dont post. Iam not explaining dillon, this thread is for dillon owners.

gunoil
03-18-2014, 03:57 PM
l apologize jm.

Been listening to Dr. michael savage, hes great.

Alvarez Kelly
03-18-2014, 05:10 PM
Dillon calls the primer slide systems on the RL550 and 1050 presses shuttle priming systems. I have never heard of a retract primer system. Is that Lee Precisions' name for theirs?

No wonder I'm having trouble understanding the OP. Some love the rotary primer carousel on the XL650. Some hate it. I sold all my XL650s. Enough said.

gunoil
03-18-2014, 05:59 PM
Yea, lee does not offer retract primer system, lam not sure what it is. I use a aftermarket one. But now everbody knows what a retract primer system is on the 550/1050/& i think SDB.

I an some above bought this below. Now we can carry a bottle of new primers around, LMAO.
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k511/putt2012/null_zps0821de75.jpg

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k511/putt2012/null_zpsff10f69b.jpg

M-Tecs
03-18-2014, 06:10 PM
Very nice. I will have to get one.

6bg6ga
03-18-2014, 06:50 PM
That little plastic bottle and stuff is worth about $2 not $24.

L Erie Caster
03-18-2014, 07:02 PM
I don’t understand why you can’t dump the little bottle into the primer flip tray or even an empty primer sleeve.

gunoil
03-18-2014, 07:08 PM
I don’t understand why you can’t dump the little bottle into the primer flip tray or even an empty primer sleeve.

L E Caster, please quit smokin that stuff, ya prob have your mother worried sick

luky-dude
03-18-2014, 07:50 PM
luky dude:
read above, this is a dillon thread. If you dont know dillon dont post. Iam not explaining dillon, this thread is for dillon owners.
Had a SD for 5 yrs. a 650 now about 15, the little bottle thing about a year. This thread is for anybody--explaining a quesion is for you.

Alvarez Kelly
03-18-2014, 08:41 PM
Anyone else smell a troll?

sparky45
03-18-2014, 08:54 PM
Definately NOT a troll AK, He's simply extolling the quirky nature of the 650's priming system. Surely you understand that?

jmorris
03-18-2014, 09:29 PM
This is my low tech, almost free soultion to switch the priming system on and off.

I timed myself to see how long it takes, 3 seconds to deactivate the system and 1 second to restore function.

sparky45
03-18-2014, 10:09 PM
I like that solution, going to try it tomorrow, more than likely.

gunoil
03-18-2014, 10:13 PM
Thanks JM, everybodys gota like that. l like simple.

Saved those pics.

Lloyd Smale
03-19-2014, 06:08 AM
ive had primer feed problems with every progressive press on the market. That said the 650s is probably one of the better systems. Kept spotlessly clean it works pretty well. My favorite is probably the system the square deal uses. Its given me less trouble then any of them but again it needs to be kept clean. Ive had more primer hicups with the lnls then any of the dillons

6bg6ga
03-19-2014, 06:19 AM
ive had primer feed problems with every progressive press on the market. That said the 650s is probably one of the better systems. Kept spotlessly clean it works pretty well. My favorite is probably the system the square deal uses. Its given me less trouble then any of them but again it needs to be kept clean. Ive had more primer hicups with the lnls then any of the dillons

I used to have a square Deal in 45acp and I purchased it used from my brother when they first hit the market. I worked fine for about 2 or 3 years and I always cussed it. I finally call Dillon and they sent me some new parts and wow it worked great again.

With the 650 I found a need to keep my concentration on the loading process instead of trying to watch TV. I have the original Primer ski setup and see no need to change it. I can actually watch the piece and see when I have an excess amount of primers on it and actually remove them all by myself without any outside help.

The 650's priming system might seem quirkey to those not posessing a lot of mechanical abilities. Its simple and it works fine. You cannot expect a machine to load your bullets and wipe your nose also.

With respect to the Troll comment. We should be allowed to express an opinion here without be called names. Get real will you?

gunoil
03-19-2014, 08:06 AM
I've never had one problem with the dillon xl-650 primer system.

Now with JM's mod (few post above) its just so kool, really slick, and so simple for everyone. Great when your "dialing" in your dies or cleaning, etc..

Thanks again jmorris

gunoil
03-19-2014, 08:13 AM
Thanks Lloyd S for the info on LNL. If anyone owns a loadmaster (l almost sold mine) go here for a incredible press: mikesreloadingbench.com (some cost and shippin/recieving but way worth it) Dang stuffs incredible.

jmorris
03-19-2014, 09:09 AM
I used to have a square Deal in 45acp and I purchased it used from my brother when they first hit the market. I worked fine for about 2 or 3 years and I always cussed it. I finally call Dillon and they sent me some new parts and wow it worked great again.

Yes, at the first sign of trouble replace the plastic oriface. Same thing on the 550 and I almost cried when I found that the 1050 uses the same part. Some report success with using the 650 tube in the 1050 but I haven't lit off any primers in the better part of 30 years reloading and don't want to start now. At least they are free...

gunoil
03-21-2014, 08:17 AM
This came in: l like it.
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k511/putt2012/null_zpsc4364bd9.jpg

gunoil
03-21-2014, 08:23 AM
jmorris, iam going to machine shop! Gonna get wade to help me. Wanta make this primer cam vertical part hinge backwards toward you out of the way, just fold to ya with your finger. That way the primer index arm will not be moved.
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k511/putt2012/null_zps45ec1ed3.jpg

If your cleaning shellplate,adjusting dies, oiling ram, or actuating press for some reason just fold out of the way.

gunoil
03-21-2014, 08:33 AM
I bought camming pin (roller bearing on the end) phonelic index ball & lite index ball spring from mark in alaska.

NO MORE GREASE ON CAM PIN, YAY!
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k511/putt2012/null_zps5957a4c1.jpg

Bought this kit to go above shell plate (thrust bearing). hitfactor on ebay.
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k511/putt2012/null_zps42673df5.jpg

Figured l'd try this for $23 to the door.
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k511/putt2012/null_zpsdae302a4.jpg

M-Tecs
03-21-2014, 11:22 AM
Bought this kit to go under shell plate (thrust bearing). hitfactor on ebay.
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k511/putt2012/null_zps42673df5.jpg



The pic is correct. The quotes is backwards. The thrust bearing goes above the shell plate.

gunoil
03-21-2014, 12:57 PM
thanks m tec, sloppy of me! l corrected.

jmorris
03-21-2014, 10:57 PM
This is the Timken part number for the thrust bearing $2 and change from my local bearing supply, get the stainless washers while you are there.

IIRC NAPA auto parts also has them.


http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o213/jmorrismetal/reloading/bearing.jpg

gunoil
03-21-2014, 11:32 PM
Thanks jm, owners will love that. Can ya help with ideas for post #43. A " firm stay where you put it hinge".
Counter sunk hole for allen bolt.

6bg6ga
03-22-2014, 06:02 AM
This is the Timken part number for the thrust bearing $2 and change from my local bearing supply, get the stainless washers while you are there.

IIRC NAPA auto parts also has them.

Do you surface grind the washers or use them from the pack?



http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o213/jmorrismetal/reloading/bearing.jpg

Do you surface grind the washers so they are good and flat or use them right out of the package?

jmorris
03-22-2014, 11:25 AM
No, the stainless washers are not your hardware store type they are precision. That is why I noted to get them at the bearing supply you use.

jmorris
03-22-2014, 11:42 AM
Thanks jm, owners will love that. Can ya help with ideas for post #43. A " firm stay where you put it hinge".


First thought that popped into my head was something similar to the locks I put on the back doors so the kid couldn't open the doors to get out to the pool.

They are like a piano hinge that locks in place. Make it so it locks in place at 90 deg instead of 180 and spring load it so pushing up on it can't unlock it, it would work.

You would want to do this in a plastic not steel though.

If you make them for $5/$10 I'll buy one, much more than that and the ziptie's get to keep their job.

Walter Laich
03-22-2014, 12:51 PM
100214

Tried one of these but couldn't get a feel for it. Went back to the black ball. Might be the fact that I've had my Dillon for 35+ years.

gunoil
03-22-2014, 02:34 PM
Ok thanks JM, i'll show wade pics and work on it some. Got some more stuff to show ya next week. TIA.

WL. yea it may do me same way. I'll put back on ebay and call it a rent-try deal for myself and not loose much.

jmorris
03-22-2014, 03:49 PM
What if you just bought a 10-24 bolt that was real long and cut the head off and drill the shank at the right spot, use the stud for a pin like the primer tube uses?

That would be cheap, easy and fast.

gunoil
03-22-2014, 04:23 PM
No, l want somthing complicated and takes alot of time and need help and have to wait on machine shop like this thing below: Lucky i've already done two so this one was lil' easier. This thing is beautiful and chrome lund cargo spreader bar from ebay. The cad-plated shake brake triangle plate he sells for 12$bucks/speed shipping came from mikesreloadingbench.com. Had to drill my own holes to fit it to 650. You can stand on it! hehehe. I have more coming.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k511/putt2012/null_zpsf16f5f42.jpg




"Some minds are like concrete, thoroughly mixed up and permanently set."

jmorris
03-22-2014, 05:04 PM
That one is a fix I don't need.

However, if you are willing to drill into the frame I would just use a ball detent pin to hold the primer cam into the frame. Be faster than the pin and washer idea and less work I would imagine as there is already a through hole in the frame, just open it up to 1/4".

gunoil
03-22-2014, 06:52 PM
TIA.! yea, jm l thought about ball dent pull pin. I do like projects though, sometimes l loose at the machine shop.
Shake brake really saved my butt, gonna take walnut base to my friends cabinet shop and have it corner molded and stain it gray simi-gloss.

EddieNFL
03-22-2014, 07:13 PM
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a338/EddieF/20140322_180220_zpsf6a82c71.jpg (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/EddieF/media/20140322_180220_zpsf6a82c71.jpg.html)
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a338/EddieF/20140322_180230_zps4f6cf38c.jpg (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/EddieF/media/20140322_180230_zps4f6cf38c.jpg.html)

Two bucks, two minutes. Down side is I have to empty the bin every few thousand rounds.

jmorris
03-22-2014, 08:56 PM
44 spl/mag case drilled out?

gunoil
03-22-2014, 11:25 PM
That looks like 12000 primers ENFL.

polished up to 6000 paper.
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k511/putt2012/null_zpsa5cf7651.jpg

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k511/putt2012/null_zps9a0c68ce.jpg

Then pencil'ed everything.
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k511/putt2012/null_zpsf23ba811.jpg





82.7% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

gunoil
03-22-2014, 11:31 PM
Did this for homemade lee 4 tube carosel atop mrbulletfeeder.biz

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k511/putt2012/EBEBFFE3-44B3-44A8-A1F4-00EB493E0CC4-726-000001FC52BC0944_zps9699a89d.mp4

bout out of bullets, cast some more thursday.

VHoward
03-23-2014, 12:27 AM
44 spl/mag case drilled out?

I used a 300 win mag case drilled out on mine.

DaveInFloweryBranchGA
03-23-2014, 10:36 AM
Did this for homemade lee 4 tube carosel atop mrbulletfeeder.biz

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k511/putt2012/EBEBFFE3-44B3-44A8-A1F4-00EB493E0CC4-726-000001FC52BC0944_zps9699a89d.mp4

bout out of bullets, cast some more thursday.

Hey Fella, did you use Lee parts or make your own on that mod? I'm looking to do something like that atop my Hornady bullet feeder dies and increase my ready to load capacity.

jmorris
03-23-2014, 12:22 PM
Lee make the 4 tube turret with the tubes.

http://leeprecision.com/multi-tube-feeder.html

gunoil
03-23-2014, 03:24 PM
yea,D fl. branch, Its all good, just trip to machine shop. Gold piece to fit drop die. That clear tube thing in 650 head helped too.

DCM
03-23-2014, 09:44 PM
anyone else smell a troll?

Yes!! Seems to have a beef with any opinion not perfectly aligned with his WOW.

Reminds me of my MIL in a bad mood!

gunoil
03-24-2014, 10:39 AM
dcm , dont call me a troll!

i own dillon 1050 & 550(just sold 550 to get 650). I buy my stuff from dillon. I told them on the phone that l wish they had put a scaled up 550 primer system on 650.

Whats you problem, I dont call you a troll for your opinion of a certain part on a press.

The 1050 i own and the 550 have the best primer system. Thats all. Same for O.P..


dcm, there are over thirteen hundred people that have read this one thread, most will never join because of people like you. Insulting some 60 year old person u dont even know. I didnt start the thread for you.

sparky45
03-24-2014, 03:02 PM
Well stated Gunoil. If DMC wanted to be CONSTRUCTIVE instead of acting like a "troll" himself, I bet he could have. Guess he just decided to act out. After all, it is Monday. I almost bet he will apologize.

VHoward
03-24-2014, 08:21 PM
I don't think Gunoil is the troll and I'm not sure who Alvarez Kelley was referring to in his post. I have read the entire thread and my opinion on the xl650's priming system is you either like it or you don't. I don't have a problem with the priming system on mine, but that is not to say someone else will not.

I think we all need to remember that this forum is for civil discussions about cast boolits and reloading and many other gun related topics. No need to call anybody names and if you don't like what you read in a thread, no body is forcing you to read it. Please move on if you can't be civil.

M-Tecs
03-24-2014, 08:31 PM
I have three 650’s, one RL-1000 and two Super 1050’s. I don’t have any issues with any of them.

gunoil
03-24-2014, 08:44 PM
Thanks , I have not had any problems with rotary primer system on 650. As i've had to say way to many times on this thread, "l dont like the design of rotary, i like the retract design thats on my 1050 / 550, & on magic mikes aftermarket design on my 2 loadmasters. If ya dont know how a 1050/550 primer system works, it retracts the primer if not needed.

People factiously take things out of context . Or they dont read.

Ausglock
03-24-2014, 09:11 PM
Well. while ever my left thumb still works, I'll stay with the 550.
I don't need to spend $$$ on a press to auto index.

Gunslick. you should have kept the 550. And used Roo-Lube to keep it running sweet. I do.

6bg6ga
03-25-2014, 06:07 AM
I think we all should be adult enough to leave the name calling to someone under the age of twelve. Lets just all learn to play in the sandbox..ok?

DaveInFloweryBranchGA
03-25-2014, 07:38 AM
dcm , dont call me a troll!

i own dillon 1050 & 550(just sold 550 to get 650). I buy my stuff from dillon. I told them on the phone that l wish they had put a scaled up 550 primer system on 650.

Whats you problem, I dont call you a troll for your opinion of a certain part on a press.

The 1050 i own and the 550 have the best primer system. Thats all. Same for O.P..


dcm, there are over thirteen hundred people that have read this one thread, most will never join because of people like you. Insulting some 60 year old person u dont even know. I didnt start the thread for you.

Gunoil,

I don't know you and am not calling you a troll, but in this post you make a statement implying you are sixty, but the language in this post and the spelling is not that of a sixty year old. It's the language of a young man who grew up texting. I am not concerned about trolls, but I am concerned about communications skills, for example, in answer to a question I asked, you posted this:


yea,D fl. branch, Its all good, just trip to machine shop. Gold piece to fit drop die. That clear tube thing in 650 head helped too.

Here's how the bundle of language (quote above) looked to me, with my interpretation of what you typed in parenthesis:

yea (equivalent to a grunt) D (?) fl. (florida) branch (What branch in florida, what is this guy saying?) It's all good (This guy a rapper or some punk kid?) just trip to machine shop (Do drugs to a machine shop?) gold piece to fit drop die (What? This some kind of rapper jewelry attached to some sort of suicide device?) that clear tube thing in 650 head helped too. (What clear tube thing?)

As you can see, using slang language and texting "English" (I call it English loosely.) created a significant communications failure. You could come back and say "I should get with the program or some such," but to do so would actually be disrespectful and a bad decision on your part, as I think it's your language usage (Possibly laziness or lack of skill using language beyond the language of your youth.) that's likely causing folks to think you're a troll. For my part, it certainly prevented me from understanding you and what you were trying to convey.

I'm not saying this to try to hurt or demean you in any way, but to communicate to you that your current methodology in communications is not getting your message across very well. So you may wish to revise it and I encourage you to do so. After all, regardless of who you are, it is your communications skills in black and white English on this boards that represents who you are. You want them to be understood by others and you want to represent yourself in such a manner as to be respected. The best way to do that, regardless of your age, is to use what the British like to call "proper" English.

Just so you know, when I was 19, I had some English teachers at the community college where I was attending that were quite brutal with me about developing my English skills. I thought they were jokes then. They're long dead and gone now, but if I could go back in time, I'd go back and hug their necks for the great gift of communication they gave me.

Best Regards,

gunoil
03-25-2014, 10:27 AM
Yea, at work l do do to much text type, sorry. Some bad habits. If your reffering to pic the gold thing in pic had to be machined to fit die. The clear tube beside die is self explanatory. I have been to fl branch georgia many times my friend. If you need more info pm me for pics or email mike@harleykitplane.com.

My sticky has 184 thousand views, iam not to stupid. I do text type alot. Sorry.

gunoil
03-25-2014, 10:54 AM
Hey Fella, did you use Lee parts or make your own on that mod? I'm looking to do something like that atop my Hornady bullet feeder dies and increase my ready to load capacity.

Sorry dave, i want abbreviate "D fl. branch" any more i'll spell it out fir ya. But have spent lot of time there and A town, "atlanta". Dave , that is definately a lee black plastic bullet feed,, pretty obvious. Are you a transplant or from GA.?
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k511/putt2012/EBEBFFE3-44B3-44A8-A1F4-00EB493E0CC4-726-000001FC52BC0944_zps9699a89d.mp4
oh yea, almost forgot l am born and raised in the south, Iam not educated. They gave me a HS diploma. Love the rebel flag too. Use to be a regular in the watermelon 500.

Dave, i am perdee ignert, but your taxes pay money is good.

gunoil
03-25-2014, 11:55 AM
Ausglock that is a great press, prob best all around press ever! I will have to have another. I stole that first one and flipped it. IMO person should buy 550 bl or rl instead of lee classic turret. because its safe and easy to learn on or go big time with dillons whole case feed system.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k511/putt2012/null_zps6eb4747d.jpg

DaveInFloweryBranchGA
03-25-2014, 12:57 PM
Gunoil, responses in red in the quote:


Sorry dave, i want abbreviate "D fl. branch" any more i'll spell it out fir ya. Dave is good, especially as I no longer live in Flowery Branch, but Jefferson instead.

But have spent lot of time there and A town, "atlanta". As much as possible, I try to avoid going down into Atlanta.

Dave , that is definately a lee black plastic bullet feed,, pretty obvious. Are you a transplant or from GA.? Yes, I agree it was pretty obvious. What I was interested in was the specifics on the adapter. Looks like brass in your photobucket link, but one cannot see the fine points of the construction/adaptation.

oh yea, almost forgot l am born and raised in the south, Iam not educated. They gave me a HS diploma. Love the rebel flag too. Use to be a regular in the watermelon 500. I was born in Kansas, but raised and educated in down east North Carolina. My Father, who only had a high school education, was one of the most well read, well written (Both his typed and hand written words.) and spoken man I've ever met. But he was from the "Greatest Generation" that fought WWII.

Dave, i am perdee ignert, but your taxes pay money is good. Be glad you have that job. Taxes is one of the main reasons I left North Carolina and will not return.

gunoil
03-25-2014, 01:18 PM
Yea, great dittos on that dave. My dads wwii phillipines.

When i get home, i'll get more pics in detail of feeder and show you what i did on bottom part too. Its a mrbulletfeeder.biz drop die from Rick. The man!! Then l put that stuff up top. I'll put some more up soon. Your taxes are paying me, hehehe! Iam @ bragg hauling airborne.

DaveInFloweryBranchGA
03-25-2014, 03:09 PM
Gunoil, in red in quotes again.
Yea, great dittos on that dave. My dads wwii phillipines. He must have been in the Army, as they took back the Phillipines if my memory serves.

When i get home, i'll get more pics in detail of feeder and show you what i did on bottom part too. That would be good. It's the adapter I'm interested in, for sure. Its a mrbulletfeeder.biz drop die from Rick. The man!! Those are good stuff, but I'm already invested in the three Hornady dies, so I'll have to adapt them to the Lee at some point if I want more production between loadings cheaply.Then l put that stuff up top. I'll put some more up soon. Not sure what you're saying here, I think you mean the Lee stuff.Your taxes are paying me, hehehe! Iam @ bragg hauling airborne.One of the few good investments of my tax dollars these days.

sparky45
03-25-2014, 03:36 PM
That there sentence structure and spelling must really be gettin at ya D.[smilie=l:

gunoil
03-25-2014, 04:58 PM
Dave, got home from wirk now! I have pics.
This aint this best like doublealpha's but its working great.
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k511/putt2012/null_zpsbcfb4fb9.jpg

Ok: 2nd pic just loosen allen screw in gold sleeve & slide off off of mrbulletfeeder drop die in tool head. Turned (laithe) the inside just a lil' so plastic tube would slide in.
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k511/putt2012/null_zps28c37f08.jpg

3rd pic shows short piece if lee plastic cut, it fit perfect and tight in black lee bullet carosel base & gold sleeve.
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k511/putt2012/null_zpse2706ff8.jpg

The washer has slot cut in it to hold tab on lee bullet carosel base. Washer is krazy glued on.
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k511/putt2012/null_zpscdc7bd2a.jpg

I poured plastic (hobby lobby) in to hold other plastic tube (smaller one)that sets in hole in tool head.
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k511/putt2012/null_zps428eca37.jpg

I slid small clear tube up with lil' hot glue on it then when it set where it is l then poured in black plastic 2 part suff.

DaveInFloweryBranchGA
03-26-2014, 08:09 AM
So the internals of the brass sleeve are drilled out to match the diameter of the Lee bullet feeder plastic tube on the top half and drilled out to match the diameter of the feeder die/intake on the bottom side. Could you post pics of the internals of your brass adapter from the top and bottom views?

I notice the second plastic tube going down into your Dillon Toolhead. Did it require you drill an additional hole in the Dillon Toolhead to accept the Lee plastic tube?

Thank you for posting the big pictures, they take the viewer beyond the "concept" of the original picture to the practicality of actually getting the kit adapted to a feeder die.

sparky45
03-26-2014, 08:30 AM
I can answer that last question Dave; the hole you are referring to is already in the toolhead and is in use when you use the Dillon powder monitoring setup.

DaveInFloweryBranchGA
03-26-2014, 09:06 AM
I can answer that last question Dave; the hole you are referring to is already in the toolhead and is in use when you use the Dillon powder monitoring setup.

Thanks Sparky,

It's been a long time (14 years roughly) since I've had a Dillon toolhead around and I don't pay attention to the setup when loading on my buddy's 650. If it hangs up or has problems, I go hit up his refrigerator for snacks and a drink while he deals with it.:)

In all seriousness, it wouldn't be hard to adapt the Lee to stabilize on any press with any brand boolit feeder die if one worked at it a very little bit. Could probably make that brass adapter out of plastic/pvc to make it less expensive.

jmorris
03-26-2014, 09:45 AM
Before I built a collator for my bullet sizer I used the above Lee turret feeder. I had a support (all thread) that went up and had a plastic plate with two holes in it one for the threaded rod the other for the 4 tubes, kept them stable.

Dave I don't know what I did with the tubes but if you wanted to mess with one I have the plastic turret part still.

gunoil
03-26-2014, 01:19 PM
Ill get those pics Dave. What press u want it on? I have it on a loadmaster too. And this one:
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k511/putt2012/null_zps8caa6fa1.jpg

DaveInFloweryBranchGA
03-26-2014, 07:34 PM
Before I built a collator for my bullet sizer I used the above Lee turret feeder. I had a support (all thread) that went up and had a plastic plate with two holes in it one for the threaded rod the other for the 4 tubes, kept them stable.

Dave I don't know what I did with the tubes but if you wanted to mess with one I have the plastic turret part still.

J, I'd love to mess with it and see how it would work. What would it take to get it to 30549 zip code?

jmorris
03-26-2014, 07:36 PM
Sent you a pm.

DaveInFloweryBranchGA
03-26-2014, 07:36 PM
Ill get those pics Dave. What press u want it on? I have it on a loadmaster too.

I'll be adapting it to a RCBS Pro 2000 auto advance. Has a die plate similar to a Dillon toolhead and there's a couple casting bosses in the front I can use to mount things off of, so a couple sheet metal adaptations and I should have it going fairly easily.

gunoil
03-26-2014, 07:36 PM
Heres the pics:
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k511/putt2012/null_zpsb0b4c6e0.jpg


http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k511/putt2012/null_zps67ee59cc.jpg

DaveInFloweryBranchGA
03-26-2014, 07:41 PM
Sent you a pm.

Back atcha :)

gunoil
03-26-2014, 08:41 PM
old video: It worked good on here.
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k511/putt2012/7DAF52DA-7234-41AC-96A6-C47F3D190EF0-19482-00001610ECC74FCE_zps44f1c5ee.mp4

DaveInFloweryBranchGA
03-26-2014, 09:36 PM
old video: It worked good on here.
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k511/putt2012/7DAF52DA-7234-41AC-96A6-C47F3D190EF0-19482-00001610ECC74FCE_zps44f1c5ee.mp4

Looks like you had that Classic Cast running pretty smooth.

gunoil
03-26-2014, 09:52 PM
yea, u can make one cheap for your rcbs. They work great and support theirself. On the xl l decided to put extra external tube on cause l had that hole on tool head that goes w/powder check die l think. But l dont have one. Ya wanta call rick and try one of his drop dies, around 60$ and the best in the world.