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Frosty Boolit
03-14-2014, 05:48 PM
Is there a levergun in .357 that is made from the factory with a pistol grip instead of the straight grip?

Outer Rondacker
03-14-2014, 06:09 PM
Ohh good ????????????? I will tag this one incase anyone answers.

Lonegun1894
03-15-2014, 03:46 AM
I don't know, but have to ask. When you say "pistol grip", are you referring to the standard Marlin 336 style "pistol grip" as opposed to the Winchester 1892/1894 straight grip, or are we talking a stand-alone pistol grip like on an AR or AK?

Frosty Boolit
03-15-2014, 07:16 AM
Like the 336

seaboltm
03-15-2014, 08:28 AM
I have never seen one. The only repeater in 357 with that style stock is the Ruger 77/357, but that's a bolt gun.

Lonegun1894
03-15-2014, 01:16 PM
Ok, thanks for that peace of mind. :) Since we're talking a grip like a Marlin, and since Marlin makes both the 336 and the 1894, I know some people have swapped out Marlin 336 pistol grip lower tangs/stocks/levers and replaced them with straight ones, and vice versa, but don't know if the parts would fit on a Marlin 1894 in .357. Maybe someone here has both and can take a look to see if the parts are even close to the same size? I kind of doubt it, but have been wrong before and it just may be an option for you.

Salmoneye
03-15-2014, 04:52 PM
There was a run of 1894PG (pistol grip), but they all came .44 mag...

There was also an 1894FG (.41 Mag) that had a pistol grip...

waco
03-16-2014, 02:13 AM
The straight grip is the only way to go........

Guesser
03-16-2014, 07:22 AM
I have an 1894 in 44 and one in 41. The 41 has a pistol grip stock/lever; the 44 is straight. I don't notice any difference when shooting them, switching from one to the other and back; the difference never comes into play, or mind.

Frosty Boolit
03-16-2014, 08:13 AM
Thanks for your help guys, I just couldn't believe it. But I guess it is so. Well I guess I'll have to see how them straight stocks fit me.

Nobade
03-16-2014, 09:15 AM
Pretty sure Uberti makes a pistol gripped '73 copy. Buffalo Arms has them in their catalog.

-Nobade

jonp
03-16-2014, 09:34 AM
Gun Auction has a Marlin 32sp rebored to 357mag for sale in decent shape and about $400 last I looked. That's an option

Bullshop
03-16-2014, 09:45 AM
Gun Auction has a Marlin 32sp rebored to 357mag for sale in decent shape and about $400 last I looked. That's an option
Impossible! You cant rebore a 32 special to 357 mag. 32 special is on a 30/30 case so way too long. The 32 special is on a 336 action also too long. There was at one time a very few 336 actions factory barreled in 44 mag but for some reason they dropped that idea and went with the 94 action for short cartridges. Maybe a 336 could be rebarreled to 357 , MAYBE but it is impossible to just rebore a 32 special to 357 mag.

upr45
03-16-2014, 09:50 AM
I have a Marlin 1894c, it came with a straight grip. I probably would have bought the pistol grip if that was offered at the time. I can say that I really like the Marlin just the way it was made with the straight grip. It did expand my horizons and I can tell you that if anything the straight grip "feels" better for off hand shooting. FWIW, I have 1895's in both configurations and like them both and would not part with either.
Hold a straight grip one, shoulder it a few times -- I'd say that it will probably go home with you! Why -- because the 357 levers are so light, handy, and balanced. When you touch off a few rounds it will quickly follow you for most shooting sessions.

seaboltm
03-16-2014, 12:22 PM
Impossible! You cant rebore a 32 special to 357 mag. 32 special is on a 30/30 case so way too long. The 32 special is on a 336 action also too long. There was at one time a very few 336 actions factory barreled in 44 mag but for some reason they dropped that idea and went with the 94 action for short cartridges. Maybe a 336 could be rebarreled to 357 , MAYBE but it is impossible to just rebore a 32 special to 357 mag.

Agreed. It was probably a 32-20 rebored to 357. I see no problem rebarreling 336 to 357 since they made 336's in 44 magnum. Heck, you may as well go 357 Maximum in a 336 though.

jonp
03-16-2014, 01:13 PM
Impossible! You cant rebore a 32 special to 357 mag. 32 special is on a 30/30 case so way too long. The 32 special is on a 336 action also too long. There was at one time a very few 336 actions factory barreled in 44 mag but for some reason they dropped that idea and went with the 94 action for short cartridges. Maybe a 336 could be rebarreled to 357 , MAYBE but it is impossible to just rebore a 32 special to 357 mag.
I thought it sounded a little fishy so emailed the seller. They said it was a 32sp specifically rebored to 357mag to my question of what the rifle was rebored fr as it is now stamped 357.
My first thought on reading the auction was like yours "that action must be too long for that".
Your saying that you can't do that is incorrect. You certainly can rebore one fr 32sp to 357mag. Whether it works is a different subject

Outer Rondacker
03-16-2014, 01:21 PM
Wait did anyone make a 357 Maximum in a rifle? If so please spill the beans. THanks

Bullshop
03-16-2014, 01:53 PM
I guess it could have been rebored then sleeved to a 357.

357maximum
03-16-2014, 02:29 PM
In a 357Mag it is of no other mind, but in harder kickers I prefer a pistol grip....for me it seems the PG kicks less than the stright grip. I had two 1950's pre micro 336's in 35rem at the same time. After shooting full effort loads in both for quite awhile the Straight gripped RC went down the road and the 336SC with pistol grip still lives here.....and it will till they plant me in the dirt.

Salmoneye
03-16-2014, 04:22 PM
I thought it sounded a little fishy so emailed the seller. They said it was a 32sp specifically rebored to 357mag to my question of what the rifle was rebored fr as it is now stamped 357.
My first thought on reading the auction was like yours "that action must be too long for that".
Your saying that you can't do that is incorrect. You certainly can rebore one fr 32sp to 357mag. Whether it works is a different subject

I am betting it is a .32spcl rebored to .358" barrel, and chamber...

There is a very common rebore for shot out .30-30 and .32spcl guns that goes by the name .35/.30-30...

seaboltm
03-16-2014, 07:24 PM
Wait did anyone make a 357 Maximum in a rifle? If so please spill the beans. THanks

Pretty sure Savage chambered some of the model 24 combo guns in maximum. I have thought about a conversion, but I can't justify it. I think most of the extra velocity from the maximum comes from the increase in pressure, not the slight volume increase. Even a 25% increase in powder capacity only increases velocity about 8%, that has been well confirmed in Ackley chambers, the rule of 1/4th. 8% ain't much: 2000 fps to 2160 fps has no real world advantage.

ratboy
03-16-2014, 11:11 PM
Wait did anyone make a 357 Maximum in a rifle? If so please spill the beans. THanks

one of the members here has a custom marlin in 357 maximum. i think it is built out of a 336. i am looking for one to do exactly that.
seems like a neat project.

357maximum
03-16-2014, 11:27 PM
one of the members here has a custom marlin in 357 maximum. i think it is built out of a 336. i am looking for one to do exactly that.
seems like a neat project.


BadgerEdd is the one that built that. I have shot it, and it is AWESOME. One can be built on any Marlin 336 in 35Rem, it is just a matter of setting the barrel back , re-hanging the magtube, and chambering of course. One of them is on my "bucket" list....just have not run across the right donor yet.