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Razor
12-25-2007, 03:25 AM
What is it ??
anyone got a photo ??
What is it good/used for ??

Thanks
Razor

9.3X62AL
12-25-2007, 03:33 AM
22 Long Rifle ammunition uses a heeled bullet, to list a current common example.

The Double D
12-25-2007, 05:20 AM
Here is a couple of heeled bullets for the .310 Cadet

http://www.fototime.com/EF6B6EE32CAB7D1/standard.jpg

Here is a heeled cadet bullet compared with a similar Gas checked based bullet.

http://www.fototime.com/01FBA5FCA4F24A0/standard.jpg

The heeled bullet has a small shank or heel that is the diameter of the inside of parent case. The mid or driving band will be about the same diameter as the out side of the case and groove diameter. And yes the grease groove was out side the case.

I believe some older revolver cartridges were made in this form.

George Tucker
12-25-2007, 09:35 AM
Heeled bullets can also be used in 41 long colt, George.

Ricochet
12-25-2007, 12:32 PM
Lots of older revolver cartridges used them. A few others include .32 Short and Long Colt, .38 Short and Long Colt, .44 S&W American, 7.5mm Swedish Nagant...

The biggest problem handloading them is that a conventional roll crimp can't be applied. A collet type die such as a Lee Factory Crimp Die would work well.

Razor
12-27-2007, 12:14 AM
Sooo... it's kinda like a plain base boolit ??
The heel is for keeping the projectile "square" in the case neck ??
Was this design before the advent of the gas checks ??

Thanks

Razor

floodgate
12-27-2007, 12:34 AM
Razor:

It's actually a very old design, from the early days of metallic cartridges and pretty much obsolete (for new designs, like the .44 Russian and .44-40 - with the greased portion of the bullet INSIDE the case rather than exposed like the earlier .44 American and .44 Henry) by the early 1870s. The heel allowed the main body of the bullet to be the same OD as the case, especially for conversions of cap-and-ball revolvers, by boring the cylinders straight on through. The .22 rimfires (except the .22 magnum) are the principal survivors of this approach. Gas checks are something else; they came in around 1900, when smokeless powders came into general use, and applied more heat and pressure to the base of the bullet, yielding increased velocity potential.

floodgate

KevMT
12-27-2007, 02:05 AM
What is it ??
anyone got a photo ??
What is it good/used for ??

Thanks
Razor

Here's an article from leverguns with some heeled boolit history. The authors have designed a new large bore heeled cartridge on a modern platform

http://www.leverguns.com/480/480_achilles.htm

Kev

Morgan Astorbilt
12-27-2007, 03:39 AM
They're also good in old guns that have larger bores then chamber necks, such as my 10.4x47R Vetterli Vitali.
Morgan

Razor
12-28-2007, 04:48 PM
Thanks Fellas

Razor