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wgr
03-06-2014, 07:41 PM
what is the main differants between the large and small ring mausers

Love Life
03-06-2014, 07:50 PM
http://benchrest.com/showthread.php?66165-large-or-small-ring-Mausers

Love Life
03-06-2014, 07:51 PM
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?74835-Mauser-Large-ring-Small-ring

Love Life
03-06-2014, 07:51 PM
https://www.google.com/#q=difference+between+large+and+small+ring+mauser

UBER7MM
03-06-2014, 08:19 PM
Wgr,

Here is the main dimensional specifications for large and small ring Mausers.
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http://www.boydsgunstocks.com/content/Boyds/CustomPages/FAQ_actionlengthguide.htm
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Go to the bottom of the page for Mauser diagrams.
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I hope this helps,

Hardcast416taylor
03-06-2014, 09:52 PM
I have a WW 1 Kar 98a, a small ring 98 Mauser made for lightness and shorter than the full size 98 that was a large ring, very few actually made as I understand.Robert

historicfirearms
03-06-2014, 10:25 PM
Easiest way to visually tell them apart is if the front receiver ring is stepped up to a larger diameter than the middle part of the receiver, then you have a large ring. If it is flush, you got a small ring.

clyde-the-pointer
03-06-2014, 10:38 PM
Large rings handle bigger calibers as well.

swheeler
03-06-2014, 10:42 PM
Easiest way to visually tell them apart is if the front receiver ring is stepped up to a larger diameter than the middle part of the receiver, then you have a large ring. If it is flush, you got a small ring.


I'll buy that. It is the diameter of the front reciever ring, but of course there are the large ring/small shank odd balls/turks

Bullshop
03-06-2014, 11:15 PM
And if that's not confusing enough there are the large ring small ring mauser like the Turk that has the large ring receiver but uses the small ring barrel.

Uncle Grinch
03-07-2014, 12:31 AM
Most small ring, i.e., 93-96 Mausers cock on closing and large rings cock on opening. The large ring handle gas posrting much better, read safer, than the small ring. You can look at the bolt shroud and see the differences. The large ring has a lip to divert escaping gases away from the shooters face, whereas the small ring does not. In addition the large ring bolt has a third lug towards the rear of the bolt body that is supposed to add protection.

There are many variations and exceptions to these aspects, but as a general rule, large rings are considered the best option for building a sporter. Many countries added their own unique variations to Mausers, which further confuses the differences.

Larry Gibson
03-07-2014, 03:26 PM
All Models 91, 93, 94, 95 & 96 are all small ring actions, cock on closing and have 3" magazines. The M93-96 are easily converted to cock on closing but that is a custom alteration.

M98s come mostly with large rings but some have small rings. All are cock on opening and can have magazines of 3 to about 3.3" in length.

I am referring to military Mausers.

Larry Gibson

swheeler
03-07-2014, 03:55 PM
I'll buy that. It is the diameter of the front reciever ring, but of course there are the large ring/small shank odd balls/turks


And the other differences talked about are between m98 and pre 98 models, excluding the small ring m98

JHeath
03-07-2014, 06:58 PM
So is the Mauser Monotrace made after WWI a large or small ring?

Sorry -- saw this today and had to mention it.

http://silodrome.com/mauser-monotrace/

swheeler
03-07-2014, 07:03 PM
I definately think that is large ring(and piston) especially like the fold up training wheels:)

UBER7MM
03-07-2014, 08:20 PM
The small ring Mausers don't have a bolt sleeve stop. The bolt sleeve is suppose to remain at the 12 O'clock position during opening. The bolt sleeve can rotate counter clockwise to the 9 O'clock position when the bolt opens and pulled rearward. This can cause a jam when closing the bolt. Not a good feature to have on a military weapon. The 98 Mauser actions have a bolt sleeve stop that elevates this problem. There is another military improvement of the small ring Mausers found in the 98 Mauser. 98 Mauser bolt sleeves have a blast ridge to protect the shooter from blow back gasses in the event of a case rupture. These newer features undoubtedly added to the manufacturing cost of the 98 Mauser.