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9w1911
02-16-2014, 03:16 PM
Have two full 5 pound buckets and there is about 5% of stick on, should I just toss them into the coww when I smelt today?

I have about 100lbs of pure already.

skeet1
02-16-2014, 03:20 PM
I know that some guys separate them but I have just thrown them in with my regular wheel weights. I never had that many that it made much difference.

Ken

lightman
02-16-2014, 03:29 PM
I never separated them in the past because I never found enough to matter, and I have a source for soft lead. Now I do separate them because I'm finding more and more of them. Lightman

Boyscout
02-16-2014, 04:32 PM
Separate them and test them. All mine seem to be about 6-7 BHN which is close enough to pure for my use. Right now pure lead is harder for me to get than COWW and Lino.

slim1836
02-16-2014, 04:33 PM
I separate and treat them as soft (or pure) lead, use them in making round ball for muzzleloaders.

Slim

BNE
02-16-2014, 04:35 PM
Separate. Its quick and easy. As mentioned in earlier posts, your available alloy may change over time. Keeping them separate allows you more flexibility later.

sawzall
02-16-2014, 06:01 PM
I put the painted / coated ones in with my clip ons. The bare uncoated ones get separated and treated as pure. The coated ones are pretty much the same as clip on for composition and hardness.

runfiverun
02-16-2014, 06:05 PM
i'll give you my magic alloy and how it come about.

I mix clip on ww's 3 parts to 1 part stick on ww's.
this magical formula come about because I had 3 times as many clip on ww's as I did stick on ww's and didn't have anything to use the stick-on's in.
it's been working pretty well for about 40 years now.

9w1911
02-17-2014, 03:53 AM
will do gents, Im on the fence on what to do will prob toss em in the mix

GlocksareGood
02-17-2014, 10:54 AM
I sort mine out but I also had about 50% SOWW in my run this winter. 1540lbs of COWW and 750lbs of SOWW. Once they are sorted it is easy to add a few back for 50/50 or what ever else you want to make.

RogerDat
02-18-2014, 01:25 PM
I keep mine separate, they are different lead so I just figure having the ability to decide when and where to use that type of lead is an advantage. And they do sort of stand out like a sore thumb when sorting lead, steel, and zinc clip on WW.

Using the lead alloy calculator from this site, approx weight of 200# for 2 buckets and 5% SOWW as 10#.
200# COWW would be Sn .5%, Sb 3%, Arsenic .25% BHN of 11.5
200# mixed would be Sn .49, Sb 2.85% Arsenic .24% BHN of 11.4

So not a whole lot of raw difference at 5% SOWW when you start getting 30# of SOWW in 200# hardness drops to 11.1 and I would expect WD or HT would yield different results with the Sb reduced by a half percentage at 30#'s of SOWW. But that is just a guess.

Patrick L
02-20-2014, 08:49 AM
I never bothered to separate them out in the past and it never seemed to matter for the types of shooting I do. I recently started separating only because I figured I might get into black powder/round ball one of these days, or it might give me trading stock to deal with someone who needs/wants soft lead.

mrbillbus
02-20-2014, 09:35 AM
I put the painted / coated ones in with my clip ons. The bare uncoated ones get separated and treated as pure. The coated ones are pretty much the same as clip on for composition and hardness.

^this^

Animal
02-22-2014, 10:06 AM
I separate. I've got several SOWW ingots sitting around that I plan on mixing at some point to see how they perform. I only cast 100% Clip On at the moment, but after I iron out a few details in my current .45acp loads, I'll tinker with softening the alloy and comparing results. If you don't know what your current alloy composition is, you won't be able to reproduce or improve later.