Another good reason to have a 30-06

[bearcove]

After the ammo shortage the first and only ammo to hit the shelves was 30-06

The only ammo to have a selection of bullet weights on the shelf was 30-06

As other ammo comes and goes, the one that was almost always in stock was 30-06

Not that I buy much loaded ammo, but its nice to know if I went to montana or alaska to go hunting I could go to a store and buy a few boxes of 30-06

I used to shoot a lot of rare and hard to find stuff but still have a 30-06.

[JSnover]

True. It's easy to get and it'll do all the important jobs. At least on this continent.

[williamwaco]

The .30-06 is never a mistake.

Townsend Whelen

[Old School Big Bore]

I remember seeing that Whelen quote before. It's going on my wall with the rest of the Real Truths I've found.

[bearcove]

Our great advocate of the 270 said the same

[jakec]

my favorite round.

[BruceB]

Back around the early '70s I traded some handloading gear to a friend for a left-handed Remington 700 in .30-06.

Over the decades since then, I used that rifle to kill over 150 big-game animals, including moose, caribou, and black bears.

Not even as much as one single round was factory-loaded, over all that time. I never lost an animal when using the '06, , nor did one ever get out of sight after being fired upon.

Use good bullets, put them "where it counts" .... and then read my signature line, already referred-to above.

The '06 is its own best reason for ownership... the availability of factory ammo simply never troubles the surface of my alleged mind. It is interesting to hear this news, though.

[bearcove]

I noticed it 'cause I bought a Savage Axis in 30-06 for one of my boys. Figured a few boxes of new shiny factory ammo would go well with it. So... I started watching ammo and 30-06 is what was really available. Even when I traveled around "it" was on the shelf.

[bearcove]

With component shortages, like 35 cal bullets, putting the demand on my cast 35 stuff having to work, I find myself simplifying things. The 35 whelen imp is not needed if a 30-06 will do.

Everything has got more expensive I think I'm gonna use my 30-06 more and save some there.

[white eagle]

Ya know I have never owned a gun in 30-06

[bbs70]

When I go anywhere that sells ammo & related materials, I always look to see what type of ammo is on the shelves.
Around my area 308 is usually on shelves.

[John Allen]

06 is almost always on the shells. Not to mention yardsales and fleamarkets

[starmac]

The unpopular calibers lasted the longest here when it got real bad, in fact the very last rifle ammo on the shelf here in town was 300 savage, but it took longer to reappear to.

[Wolfer]

When the guys at work are talking about what caliber they should buy I always say that if I lost all my guns ( house fire, burglary etc ) the first gun I would buy would be a 30-06. It would work for everything I hunt.

[richhodg66]

I'm a .30-06 fan too, best cartridge there is.

However, I watched our Wal Mart though the whole scare over the past couple of years and the one kind of centerfire rifle ammo that never sold completely out was .270. I never had much interest in the .270, anything it'll do a .30-06 will do better, but I ended up with one in a deal and think I'll keep it around even though I don't shoot it much.

[Freischütz]

A 30/06 is all you need for moose.

[Superfly]

Sitting on 50 boxes of factory loaded 30 06 right now It Is my daughters rifle though rugur m77 stainless with a 4.5 x 14 burris on top. My daughter is 13 and 90 pounds soaking wet and can out shoot most people I know.

[retread]

I agree that the 30/06 is a great cartridge. I would not be without one, however I recently got a 270 Winchester and love it. I am 67 now and don't enjoy being punished at the range. The 270 is gentler on this old man but come Mule Deer season the 06 will be in the truck!

[Artful]

I agree that the 30/06 is a great cartridge. I would not be without one, however I recently got a 270 Winchester and love it. I am 67 now and don't enjoy being punished at the range. The 270 is gentler on this old man but come Mule Deer season the 06 will be in the truck!
Have you tried a 243?

[Harter66]

Yep , 06' is the answer.
You can load 30 cal from 50-250 gr and subs to 4000 fps , p-dogs to moose. How could you possibly go wrong? Never mind that rifles come in every flavor known to man from Handi's to platnum Merkle's ,mountain scouts to 1000 rail guns and it is always 1 of the 1st carts offered in a new line. Not bad for an ''old school'' 108 yr old warhorse . :)

[runfiverun]

my situation during the last ammo shortage was similar to rich dogs.
we had 270 ammo on every shelf in town the whole time.
and 2 old boxes of 7x57 that had about 12 different price stickers stacked one atop the other that finally sold at 24.99. :lol:

[shdwlkr]

You have forgotten one thing it was the caliber most GI's in WWII used to end Hitler and the Japanese must be one good caliber. It is the reason it is so popular as a hunting round it has proved it can stand up to the challenge.

[DeanWinchester]

You say "another good reason"........ Was there ever a bad reason to own a 30/06?

[Hogtamer]

wish you guys would shut up about the .270s...i buy a box every time I got to WMT, price is up to $18 though.

[xacex]

Whats a 3006?

[Blacksmith]

You have forgotten one thing it was the caliber most GI's in WWII used to end Hitler and the Japanese must be one good caliber. It is the reason it is so popular as a hunting round it has proved it can stand up to the challenge.

Also used in WW1, the 06 stands for 1906 when it was adopted. A very versatile round that can be loaded from light to heavy depending on the job to be done. Besides that everybody should have an M1 Garand.

[Old School Big Bore]

I'm with Blacksmith, if I were king the CMP would have to allocate a Garand to every newborn. And a 1911. And a Carbine. And...

[Hogtamer]

Hey blacksmith, I'll pm you my address and you send me one...Please!

[bob208]

I used to say that about the .30-30 .but the 06 has gotten to be as common. .308 seams to be catching up also.

[762 shooter]

I'm with Blacksmith, if I were king the CMP would have to allocate a Garand to every newborn. And a 1911. And a Carbine. And...

O3A3.......Hello.?????????

762

[starmac]

What I want to hear is the reasons NOT to have an 06. LOL

[bearcove]

Boring, not exotic like a 375 whelen improved or as flat shooting as a 280 Ackley improved. Ammo is about as cheap as it gets so no status as a big wheel paying $4 a round. I can go on and on.

[DRNurse1]

Whats a 3006?

The year after 3005. But this thread intrigues me and it may influence my choice of a 'first' rifle. The M-14 I used had a neat round but they were not my loads. The only downside to the .30 caliber rounds is the amount of powder they consume. So that is not much of a downside.

[broylz]

i was a 308 fan and owned several. I ended up selling my 2 m14s when I was unemployed during the shortage and rearming with a bolt gun was when I decided to go 30-06 and it will be my primary. im currently building a 30-06 m24 clone.

even though I reload 99% of my ammo, I like the availability of the 30-06 as it means easier and cheaper once fired brass. mostly free considering all of my friends and family own 30-06 hunting rifles as well.

also if I would have shot a Garand before buying my m14s, I would have gotten 2 to 1 in favor of the Garand from CMP and accomplished the same thing...

[JSnover]

I used to say that about the .30-30 .but the 06 has gotten to be as common. .308 seams to be catching up also.

Ya know... I owned two .30-30s for a while. But for all the noise and recoil thought, " I might as well be shooting my '06." So I sold the Marlin and gave the Winchester to my little brother.

[Beau Cassidy]

Life starts at .30 caliber.

The .30/06 was my first rifle caliber and remains my main round.

[Bullwolf]

"There ain't many problems a man can't fix
with seven hundred dollars and a thirty aught six."

From Jeff Cooper's Commentaries:

http://www.molonlabe.net/Commentaries/jeff4_13.html



Some years ago we encountered a young man who inherited from his father's estate the modest sum of $600 and a semi-sporterized 1903 Springfield. This was not much of a legacy, of course, but on examination it took on a certain charm. The line occurred to me: "They're ain't many troubles that a man can't fix with six hundred dollars and a thirty ought six." The monosyllable "six" needed addition, so I tried "seven." The line had a nice lilt to it and I thought it might serve as the basis of a somewhat nostalgic poem. I did not feel up to writing the whole poem myself, so I suggested the task to our number three child Lindy, and she came up with "Grandpa's Lesson." Herewith:

Pappy took to drinkin' back when I was barely three.
Ma got pretty quiet. She was frettin', you could see.

So I was sent to Grandpa and he raised me up real good.
He taught me what I oughta and he taught me what I should.

I learned a heap 'o lessons from the yarns he liked to tell.
There's one I won't forget because I learned it 'speshly well.

"There jist ain't many folk who live a peaceful, carefree life.
Along with all the good times there'll be lotsa grief and strife.
But ain't many troubles that a man cain't fix
With seven hundred dollars and a thirty ought six."

Grandpa courted Grandma near the town of old Cheyenne.
Her daddy was cantankerous - a very greedy man.

He wouldn't give permission for a fancy wedding day
'Til grandpa paid a dowry--biggest ever people say.

Her daddy softened up when Grandpa said that he could fix
Him up with seven hundred dollars and a thirty ought six.

Grandpa herded cattle down around Jalisco way.
Ended up behind some iron bars one dusty day.

Seems the local jefe craved my Grandpa's pinto mare.
Grandpa wouldn't sell her so he lit on out of there.

Didn't take much doin' 'cept a couple special tricks
plus seven hundred dollars and his thirty ought six.

Then there was that Faro game near San Francisco say.
Grandpa's cards was smokin' hot and he took all one day.

He woke up nearly naked in a ditch next early morn'.
With nothin' but his flannel shirt, and it was ripped and torn.

Those others were professionals and they don't play for kicks.
He lost seven hundred dollars and his thirty ought six.

He begged some woolen trousers off the local storekeep there
Who loaned him both a pony and a rifle on a dare.

He caught those thievin' cardsharks at another Faro game.
He got back all his property and also his good name.

He left one bleedin' badly and another mostly lame.
My grandpa's trusty rifle shoots just where you choose to aim.

Grandpa's slowin' down a bit and just the other night
He handed me his rifle and a box sealed up real tight.

He fixed me with them pale grey eyes and this is what he said,
"You're awful young but steady too and I will soon be dead.

I'll bet this here old rifle and this honest money too
Will come in mighty handy just as readily for you.

There jist ain't many folk who lead a carefree, peaceful life.
Along with times of happiness, there's always woe and strife.

But ... aint many troubles that a man cain't fix
with seven hundred dollars and his thirty ought six."

Lindy Cooper Wisdom



- Bullwolf

[MaryB]

That was good!

[TXGunNut]

My first centerfire rifle was a 30-06, with her I learned to shoot, load and hunt. She was my main hunting rifle long after she was my only. She's a 35 Whelen now but I still keep a 30-06 in a Super Grade for the pretty days and a stainless M77 for the nasty ones. I don't cast for the grand old cartridge so I don't talk about it much here, but I'll always have one around the house and in hunting camp.
Another good reason? Seems if there are more than two pounds of powder on the LGS shelf one will probably work for the 30-06.
But I don't need any more reasons.

[GabbyM]

I'm 58 years old. Bought my first 30-06 just under two years ago.
Always thought they were old and boring. 270's was what the modern rifleman shot, right. I read lots of magazines as a youngster.

Well the 30-06 is boring. I'm sure I've bored many on this forum as I continually post on how much I love my Win 70 in 30-06.
May be a fluke to my rifle but. any weight cast bullet or jacketed bullet hits POI very close to the same scope setting. Windage within an inch at 100 and elevation pretty much in line with velocity and trajectory. It's plum weird. Can shoot 150 grain cast boolits or 220 grain cast bullets all at the same speed because it's got enough case capacity to just use slower powder with the heavies and still shoot low pressure. Right before the cleanout rush I picked up 500 once fired Remington brass for something like $100. From Powder Valley. Last month I picked up a new CZ in 222 Rem. Another old girl that deserves some love. I'll tell you all right now. Not much of anything you can't shoot between a good triple duce and an ought six. There is this little fantasy I have with hitting a coyote at 800 yards with my 243 A.I. rifles. But honestly that is outside the box playful. Class those 243's in with what a dedicated trap shotgun is to a bird hunter. Fun to play with gamer guns.

[richhodg66]

Life starts at .30 caliber.

Amen, brother. I love 'em all. Only have a couple of '06s besides the milsurp ones, but several .308s, several more .30-30s and a couple of .300 Savages. The last three deer I killed with breech loaders were .30 caliber cast so they are definitely capable.

You know, I haven't had my old Model 70 '06 to the range in a while, I may pull it out and go this weekend.

[possom813]

I read it somewhere, about .30-06.

"You know why there's always .30-06 on shelf when there's a panic...because men who shoot .30-06 don't panic"

I don't recall where I read that, but I got a kick out of it.

[xacex]

I like my 06, but I have found I like shooting the 300 Blackout more. It uses the same boolit, and sips powder. Case availability is not a problem. To bad it doesn't develop the power the 06 is capable of. If H4895 was more available, and cheaper I would like that old round more.

[GabbyM]

I like my 06, but I have found I like shooting the 300 Blackout more. It uses the same boolit, and sips powder. Case availability is not a problem. To bad it doesn't develop the power the 06 is capable of. If H4895 was more available, and cheaper I would like that old round more.

Oh my doodle another BO fan. Why don't you tell us how a BO is like a 30-30 in automatic? Maybe because that's a pile of poop.
We have a thread here concerning rifles. Not pistols.

[GabbyM]

Yes my above post was hateful and maybe obnoxious.
Thing is I'm fairly fed up with the 300 BO crowd calling that piss ant round a rifle. It's a toy that's fun to play with.
This thread is about a 30-06. Round which places the 7.62 NATO in the mirror. 30 BO barely beats out a 45 ACP. Just show us how completely out of touch with reality some people are. Rifle > pistol. I can get real close to 300 BO accuracy with my K frame 38's. :takinWiz:

[Blacksmith]

Hey blacksmith, I'll pm you my address and you send me one...Please!

You might as well go directly to the source and cut out the middleman. Plus you can have your choice of either .30-06 or .308 caliber you could even get a sniper model.
http://www.odcmp.com/Sales/m1garand.htm



I'm with Blacksmith, if I were king the CMP would have to allocate a Garand to every newborn. And a 1911. And a Carbine. And...


O3A3.......Hello.?????????

762

Unfortunately the CMP no longer sells 1911's and has sold out of 03's, carbines and surplus .22's except for a few collector guns that are auction only. Their current supply of M1 Garands will likely be running out in the foreseeable future, they report 87,000 still in crates and sales of about 30,000 per year. That's why I bought a couple for my grandsons for when they are old enough because I expect the CMP will run out and I want them to have "The greatest battle implement ever devised.".

[Lefthandshooter]

Mosin Nagant 7.62x54r.

Need I say more?

[pdawg_shooter]

Ya know I have never owned a gun in 30-06

WOW! Next you will be telling us you have never owned a 45 auto!

[pdawg_shooter]

My first center fire was a DCM supplied m1917 Eddystone. That was in 1966 I have had 1 or more 3006s ever since. Four in the gun safe right now. Anything you can't do with a 06, can't be done.

[trapper9260]

The 06 was the first rifle I bought and also cast for and when I first started to reload and cast my own boolits .My mom did not like the idea of me getting one for where i was brought up you could not use it to hunt with.but my dad told her he might be in a state he could use it if he wants.it is a Rem 7600.I got it used and not really had any use in it and came with a scope and ask the gun dealer what is wrong with it he said the one that own it .I got it in the mid to late 80's and to this day i never mess with the scope and always hit what i shoot at .factory and hand loads and cast.I also see 30-06 on the shelf most of the time.

[richhodg66]

Mosin Nagant 7.62x54r.

Need I say more?

You know, that's actually a pretty good testament to the ballistics of the '06; another extremely long serviced military round with very similar levels of performance. I think the 7.62x54 came first though.

We copied the 8x57 Mauser to get the .30-06, I assume we went with a .308 due to the Krag, but if bullet selection wre as good, the 8x57 would give the '06 a run for its money.

[pdawg_shooter]

You know, that's actually a pretty good testament to the ballistics of the '06; another extremely long serviced military round with very similar levels of performance. I think the 7.62x54 came first though.

We copied the 8x57 Mauser to get the .30-06, I assume we went with a .308 due to the Krag, but if bullet selection wre as good, the 8x57 would give the '06 a run for its money.

Even better yet, the 8mm06. I built a number of them when imported M98s were cheap.

[richhodg66]

Always thought that would be a great rifle to have one of and I've read where all kinds were made on sporterized 98s because it was fairly easy to do but I don't see them at gun shows and such very often. Seems very similar to a .338-06 which guys seem to think is a great elk round.

[xacex]

Yes my above post was hateful and maybe obnoxious.
Thing is I'm fairly fed up with the 300 BO crowd calling that piss ant round a rifle. It's a toy that's fun to play with.
This thread is about a 30-06. Round which places the 7.62 NATO in the mirror. 30 BO barely beats out a 45 ACP. Just show us how completely out of touch with reality some people are. Rifle > pistol. I can get real close to 300 BO accuracy with my K frame 38's. :takinWiz:

LOL, yup some just dont get it. Pick one up and shoot something then get back to me. NO reason to get all worked up. It is fun, and useful. You must be referring to subsonics when you mention a 45acp. I am referring to supersonic which has quite a bit more umph than you realize. Albeit not a 3006, or even 308 it does have some merit in 30 cal. Try it, you might like it. Side by side with the x39 rifles I have it is right behind it in a shorter barrel. 30 carbine won't come close. Both of which are RIFLE rounds.
I mentioned it because even though the 3006 is what it is, for work under 300 yards on light to medium game I can do it cheaper with the same bullet. That equates to more trigger time=more fun. Just like the old 308 vs 3006 debate you can't have your cake and eat it too, but if you can get a donut to fill your need why not.

[frkelly74]

the first centerfire rifle I ever bought and sold and regretted selling was a Mauser 98 that had been rebarreled with a 2 groove 03A3 barrel and put in a sporter stock. I learned a lot about what to do and not to do with that rifle. It cost me $45 and worked just fine.

[Lefty Red]

Funny, was at Wally World and stepped over to the ammo section and guess what, 30/06 and 270 and 7mm and 30/30 was all the rifle rounds. And those of us stuck behind enemy lines here in South Chicagoville can't really use a rifle, legally, for much game. Surely not the calibers that are on the shelf. Pistol ammo had a good selection and a decent price in 357, 45ACP, 40S&W, and 9mm.

Anyways I had to reload the 30/06 down because I am in touch with my sensitive side. But that was before I really learned how to have a rifle fitted to my long pull and the rise adjusted. Full bore ammo doesn't bother me anymore. Now I am looking at a used Remington left handed 700 in 30/06. Will have a stock built and fitted. Money well spent.

Lefty

[richhodg66]

Strangely, I have been looking for some factory .30-30 ammo and five different Wal Marts around here were all out at the same time. Kinda had to scratch my head on that one. Lot's of '06, .270, 7mm Mag, 308 and .223, there were even two boxes of 6mm Remington which you normally wouldn't find at Wal Mart. No .30-30 though.

[Blacksmith]

You know you need at least one gun in each caliber. Then no matter what the store has you have something to shoot it in.:Fire:

[richhodg66]

I've been working on that one most of my adult life.

[Lead Fred]

In some circles Im known as Mister Odd Six. Been carrying one since I was 12. My first deer hunt was with a 1903a3 NM.
I thinned my 5 down to two, a custom bolt gun & M1 Garand. When I sold the low budget one I owned, the guy took it out for the first shoot, and banged targets out to 400 yards with open sights. I guess that 1948 Belgium Mauser still has more years left in it.

I shoot 110gr varmint grenades further than the varmint guns, and with way more knock down. The main diet In use are 187gr A-Max. With 1/4 inch groups at 200 yards, Im a happy camper. Using 208 A-Max, the BC is so high, they go flat and long into the next sip code.

Those two will be with me for the rest of mine life, then to my teenage grandson's life.

As soon as the battlefield comes to America, Ill still never be out of ammo. All I have to do is use the primer, powder & pill off of NATO 7.62x51, and a Lee Classic Loader.

Oh yeah, they DOD calls them 7.62x63

[starmac]

Lead Fred. I know a guy that has a fine looking manlicker (spelling) stocked mauser, marked 762x63. He bought it years ago, because a guy brought it in a lgs looking for ammo for it and hadn't ever found any. lol

[GREENCOUNTYPETE]

I bought my first when i was 14 a 742 woods master , got my second 20 years later CMP M1 , I think more will be coming I see a bolt action 30-06 in my future.
when your 14 and have a 30-06 742 and a 12 ga 1100 well i was well set for hunting

I had the for sight to buy every box of ammo the hardware store had when i was 14 and it was 7 dollars a box , then the price went to 11 and I should have kept buying a box every week when i got paid , but I didn't.

now I cast for it , and reloading that 20 year old brass

[Lefty Red]

You know you need at least one gun in each caliber. Then no matter what the store has you have something to shoot it in.:Fire:

I had a good working "arsenal" going til the divorce court judge and her lawyer thought I didn't need that many. But slowly working my way back up. :)

[BruceB]

". The main diet In use are 187gr A-Max. With 1/4 inch groups at 200 yards, Im a happy camper."

The '06 is a fine round, but I find this statement very difficult to believe.

On checking the world records of the International Benchrest Shooters, it appears that the claimed 1/4" groups at 200 yards are barely twice the size of the world-record five-round groups reported by IBS. These records reflect many years of benchrest competition around the world, and are not to be taken lightly. They were fired with the most cutting-edge technology in existence, by some of the most-skilled shooters who have ever lived.

Remember, 1/4" is LESS than one bullet diameter in the '06....and grouping like that from an everyday rifle at 200 yards is simply unheard-of.

Maybe just a misprint?

[Lefty Red]

What is the obsession with sub-MOA groups? I could really careless what the rife can do on the bench. Its what you can do in the field that matters. :)

[Recluse]

What is the obsession with sub-MOA groups? I could really careless what the rife can do on the bench. Its what you can do in the field that matters. :)

For me, it is the challenge of what I can do at the reloading bench to get consistent sub-MOA groups.

:coffee:

[rockrat]

'06 was my first big game rifle (25-20 the first centerfire). Many guns have come and gone, but still have that first '06. Have a few other '06's now, O3A3 and 1917enfield

[Garyshome]

270 and 300 win mag were sitting on the shelves at Wal Mart.

[Dale in Louisiana]

You know you need at least one gun in each caliber. Then no matter what the store has you have something to shoot it in.:Fire:

Wrong board, buddy!


I got stuff in that room back there to where I don't have to worry about what the store has when I want to go shoot something.

dale in Louisiana

[perotter]

You know you need at least one gun in each caliber. Then no matter what the store has you have something to shoot it in.:Fire:

It's cheaper to just have one 7mm Mauser. Every store seems to always have it. I firmly believe that most 7mm Mauser is mistakenly bought by people who have a 7mm Magnum. Enough of it moves that way that it is kept in stock, but never sold to anyone who has a rifle for it.

For a little free ammo a 7mm Mauser is easiest there is to get on an ongoing basis. Seems every year one can get a box or two from someone who owns a 7mm Magnum.

[perotter]

I've never had a 30/06 nor do I remember ever coming close to buying one. I'm looking at getting a gun now chambered for it. But as the barrel would need to be replaced, I'd most likely use a .308 barrell.

[Lefty Red]

For me, it is the challenge of what I can do at the reloading bench to get consistent sub-MOA groups.

:coffee:

What happens on the bench is just for show. I love to have clover leafs at 100 yards as much as the next guy. But it what happens with the first cold bore shot that matters the most to me.

[starmac]

What happens on the bench is just for show. I love to have clover leafs at 100 yards as much as the next guy. But it what happens with the first cold bore shot that matters the most to me.

Yup, you don't get any warm up shots when you need to shoot. lol

[Lefty Red]

Yup, you don't get any warm up shots when you need to shoot. lol

Yep! Kind of like having to stretch before getting in a fight! :)

But didn't mean to get off topic. I think any 06 that can put a round within 4" at 200 yards from field stance is good for me. But I respect Recluse's view.

[JSnover]

What is the obsession with sub-MOA groups? I could really careless what the rife can do on the bench. Its what you can do in the field that matters. :)

Simple. If you can print little tiny groups from the bench, you know what will happen in the field. And if it doesn't happen you know you can't blame the gun or the load.

[bearcove]

What is the obsession with sub-MOA groups? I could really careless what the rife can do on the bench. Its what you can do in the field that matters. :)

MINE IS BIGGER!
Oh I mean smaller.

[bearcove]

What happens on the bench is just for show. I love to have clover leafs at 100 yards as much as the next guy. But it what happens with the first cold bore shot that matters the most to me.

That is a fact. At least if you are hunting.

I need to shoot 5 Cold shots for a group, that would tell me what to expect from a first shot.

[OeldeWolf]

My first 2 rifles were my dad's little singleshot .22, and a 1909 Argie in 7.65.

But I bought my first 30-06 in December, in front of the kali registration scheme. Sporteruized 03-A3. Looking forward to working on/with it.

Oh, I do not own a .45 pistol, either...

[starmac]

I respect everyones reason for shooting, there is lots of reasons too.

I never owned an 06 until a year or so ago, probably because I'm mostly a lever guy, and you don't run across them in levers very often. lol
I did however once own a 45, but I don't think I ever even shot it. I picked it up for a great price, and eventually traded it for a 44 mag, that I do shoot fairly often, so it surely served it's purpose.

[Lefty Red]

Holy Flying Spaghetti Monster Guys! You can shoot how ever you want. But I just come from the old school, we didn't shoot guns for "fun". My uncles and Dad would grab their rifle and shoot two or three times with the same ammo they used for years. And Just to make sure the rifle shot the where it need to be. After that, its was one shot for one deer. If not, then someone was wrong. I bet my Dad and Great Uncle didn't shoot their 30/30 50 times in their life!

Fast forward to today, and I shoot that many times in one range outing! Sometimes three times that if a 22lr is shot.

Just differant times.

Lefty

[Lefty Red]

MINE IS BIGGER!
Oh I mean smaller.

LOL That is awesome!

[Lefty Red]

That is a fact. At least if you are hunting.

I need to shoot 5 Cold shots for a group, that would tell me what to expect from a first shot.

And that is so true. I left out the rifle should be sighted in before someone used for hunting. Was hoping folks here knew that.
Personally I think there are better calibers to use as a bench rifle then the 30/06. I see the '06 as a utility caliber and and something that gets it done. But what do know....... :) obvious not allot :)

[GabbyM]

And that is so true. I left out the rifle should be sighted in before someone used for hunting. Was hoping folks here knew that.
Personally I think there are better calibers to use as a bench rifle then the 30/06. I see the '06 as a utility caliber and and something that gets it done. But what do know....... :) obvious not allot :)

Better rifles than a 30-06. ? Well by reading your previous post. I'd say that's because you are deficit in long range rifle fun background. Sure if all you aspire to do is shoot stuff at 100 yards and under a 30-30 is great. I have a 30-30 and love it for what it is.

For one there is sport.

Then I live out here in Amish nation.

We have overlapping fields of fire.
Nothing funny about it. We will win. that's not a mission that is performed with some stupid 30-30 fired three times a year.
That sport rifle stuff along with the AR-15's is what our women shoot.

I really don't comprehend this "utility ".

Our church is under attack and most of the people here on this form don't even have any issue with that since the NRA does not.
Just a bunch of fool clingers. Sucked up all the BS propaganda to the point of busting at the seams. .

Lefty Red you've an honest handle.

[Harter66]

Gabby,
I'm confused.
I have a 7mm-06' that will someday get dialed in to reach out and a 7x57 and a 7x6.8 but bullet/boolit choice isn't there. The 06' will shoot every 30/31 cal boolit/bullet from 00B all the way up to 260gr in probably 5gr increments. capable of using game/man loads w powder choices from RedDot to 4831. If this alone doesn't make the old boring 06' utilitarian I must not have a clue as to what the word means......
I also have 30/31s in x39,308,7.7 and 4 in 06.

[300savage]

personally i believe in just a few simple things, God, my family and friends, the principles this country was founded upon, and my 06.
oh yeah,, and the one shot group..
the first shot, thats the money shot.

[Ickisrulz]

Gabby,
I'm confused.
I have a 7mm-06' that will someday get dialed in to reach out and a 7x57 and a 7x6.8 but bullet/boolit choice isn't there. The 06' will shoot every 30/31 cal boolit/bullet from 00B all the way up to 260gr in probably 5gr increments. capable of using game/man loads w powder choices from RedDot to 4831. If this alone doesn't make the old boring 06' utilitarian I must not have a clue as to what the word means......
I also have 30/31s in x39,308,7.7 and 4 in 06.

I too was confused by Gabby's post. I am normally confused by all his posts. It doesn't look like clarification will be coming though. He has been banned.

[clownbear69]

You know, that's actually a pretty good testament to the ballistics of the '06; another extremely long serviced military round with very similar levels of performance. I think the 7.62x54 came first though.

We copied the 8x57 Mauser to get the .30-06, I assume we went with a .308 due to the Krag, but if bullet selection wre as good, the 8x57 would give the '06 a run for its money.

The 54R did come out first but I believe the 30-06 was based off the 7x57 mauser not the 8x57 mauser. The 8mm mauser didn't come out until the 30-06 came out. I believe the 30-06 (well 30-03 but that was short lived) came out of desperation after the Spanish American war. I believe they all use 7x57 mauser compared to our 30-40 krag.

EDIT to ADD: I love the 30-06 have a 742 and 700 in it and of course the M1 Garand

[Harter66]

Pooh . I was hopping somebody would clear up "utility".
Oh well I was probably just being opinionated anyway.....

[300savage]

yep utilitarian as in useful and beneficial, but boring ??? yeah kinda like an old navy seal veteran that never called a suck day in his life, saved more people than he kept track of, killed more people than he cares to remember.
never asks for thanks or recognition, and never will.
and who gives a flying,,poop if you approve of a dang thing he has ever done .
and will keep doing till he cant anymore,, that kind of boring ??

[bearcove]

I've understood everything till I got to this page, now I feel a need for a translator. LOL!

[smokeywolf]

Two of the finest rifles I've ever shot; 03 Springfield and a Model '95 Winchester in 30-06.

smokeywolf

[bob208]

the .30-03 had 2 problems first was barrel life. the second was recoil. both problems were from firing the coppro-nickel 220 gr. krag bullet about 300-400 fps faster. in 1906 they started using a 150 gr. pointed bullet made with guilding metal. the early rifle had one thread cut off and the barrel set back and chambered for the new cartage. I have one it is dated 1905 and is just a bit shorter them a 1919 03 I have.

[clownbear69]

Actually the 30-06 was first called the 30-03 (2.54" case length, 200 gr bullet) it was adopted in 1903 and revised in 1906 hence the now used 30-06 (2.494" case length with a 150gr bullet). The Rifle used was was the Springfield 1903. It replaced the 30-40 Krag. Because of the 30-03 all the rifle was twisted in 1-10, the military nor the factories never changed this to the 1-12. Instead vast majority of the orginal 1903 rifles have been rechambered to the 30-06 with the orignal 1-10 twist. That is why most 30-06 today are twisted at 1-10.
Just some useless information I thought I would share.
and yeah you are right about the 7mm it was first the 8mm mauser came about in 1905 I think hence is why the 30-03 was redesigned along with the poor barrel life.

Thanks for the correction and added information

[Chakta]

Now for those that don't know, going hunting out West can be a problem if you don't have your ammo already. Calibers like the 30-30, 270, 30-06 and 7mm Rem mag are easy to come by at local gunstores. However, get into those other exotic calibers like the WSM or the Ultra mags and you will come up bare most of the time.

In places like Jackson Hole Wyoming, you will find the .300 Win mag, .300 Wby mag, .338 Win mag. I spent half a day once looking for 225 grain bullets for my .338 win mag in Jackson Hole Wyoming.

[MaryB]

I will keep shooting my 7.62x54r... ammo is plentiful and dirt cheap :grin: besides I don't have an 06, my older brother got dad's(why I don't know, he won't ever fire it).