Henry's golden Boy .45

[sig .357]

I got this

Jim

[junkpile]

Is there supposed to be a picture here? I don't see one.

What's your load? how is the accuracy?

Good to see that you're seeing the light over the black rifles. I, too am slowly moving away from bottleneck cartridges. Creates kind of awkward situations in some gun shops, most of them being filled with AR-15's and new whiz-bang magnums, but still more fun.

Throw some pictures up when you have the chance. And welcome.

[sig .357]

Thanks for the warm welcome, ill get some pic of my rifle and the cartridge tomorrow.

[MTtimberline]

Just of curiousity...What is the "normal load" and the +P that resulted?

[sig .357]

I use silhouette,

[sig .357]

This would

[junkpile]

Where's are you getting that data? Ramshot load data says not to exceed 11 grains of silhouette. And that places it at over 29000 psi. Unless I missed something on their guide.

Is the Golden Boy designed to handle high pressure loads?

[300savage]

i am visualizing a wreck coming just from what i have read so far.
sig are you open to letting an experianced handloader
take you under his wing?

[sig .357]

[QUOTE=junkpile;2630729]
Peace

[sig .357]

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[oldred]

" took the normal load and added a few grains more to each load"

What is "Adding a few grains"? You do know that sometimes even one grain can be the difference between a heavy load and disaster don't you?

[jmort]

The Henry action is strong and will take most anything in .45 Colt such as the "Ruger Only" loads.

[oldred]

The Henry action is strong and will take most anything in .45 Colt such as the "Ruger Only" loads.


True but simply "adding a few grains to the regular load" could easily exceed even Ruger loads! He may very well be going by established data and well within a safe range, and I would hope this is the case, but his post seems to indicate he is simply "adding a few grains" which I have known people to do but that practice is of course extremely dangerous! If he did indeed just "add a FEW GRAINS" instead of following established loading data then I have to agree with the above post that I also envision a wreck coming!

Some newbies' idea of working up a load is that if 10 grains is called for 12 works so good I will try 14!

[sig .357]

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[sig .357]

Just so

[jmort]

Oldred, I was unclear, my fault, I completely agree with posts saying new member is ignoring common sense safety. There are plenty of published, proven loads, for those who need more out of a .45 Colt. Not ruling out a troll, as O/P seems so far out there, that this may be simple provocation.

[357shooter]

It's not all that important, but the Golden Boy is the 22 and 17 rifles with brass reciever covers. The Big Boy's are the handgun caliber all brass recievers in 357, 44 and 45. The 45 Colt is strong enough for the Ruger only loads. (confirming what someone else posted).

[robertbank]

To the OP "best load or better load" are very relative terms. For load development get yourself a chronograph. I have a simple F! Chrony that works well. These can be had for around $100. Easy to use and a sure fire way of defining a "best load". For me accuracy and consistent velocities defines my "best load". For some faster is mo betta. I have not found to many loads where the top velocities mated with top accuracy. Sometimes but for me not often.

Most reloaders from my experience would do well to stick to listed manual loads. Most here do, and seek out the "best" load for their individual guns. Different strokes for different folks though. If we all felt the same way there would be one happy women in this world and a whole lot of unhappy ones.

Take Care

Bob

[w5pv]

Been reloading since 1964,never had a mishap but I keep safety as the number one of avoiding mishaps.Don't hot rod a gun that wasn't designed to be hot rodded.What I am saying is don't go over the recomemded maxinum charge and approache the maxinum with care some weapons will not stand the max.

[300savage]

sig my best advice at this moment would be to cease and desist for the immediate future until this gets sorted out.
which means no more loading , and dam sure no more shooting of anything you have already loaded.
do you have a loading manual which lists the EXACT bullet and powder data you are using?

[junkpile]

Just give him a chance to check his data. Maybe he just mis-remembered his data when he posted.

Sig, I agree with the others here. Don't exceed the max loads listed. There is no way of knowing what kind of pressure you may be at without real testing. Do you have flattened primers and flattened head stamps?

[northmn]

Generally over-loading where one thinks that the gun will stand up does not result in a blowup so much as action and chamber damage. Its more of a longer term thing. If one values the firearm then as stated by others, its best to back off. The 45 Colt is a prime candidate for this as some want to make a 45-70 out of it.

DP

[DougGuy]

Then there's always the chance of one of those hot dog rounds finding it's way into a pistol that may not be strong enough to handle the pressure then you got a KABOOM!

[robertbank]

Then there's always the chance of one of those hot dog rounds finding it's way into a pistol that may not be strong enough to handle the pressure then you got a KABOOM!

Excellent observation. You only one set of fingers.

Take Care

Bob

[sig .357]

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[sig .357]

After reading

[300savage]

sig i just wanted to say that you have an uncommonly good attitude, and will do just fine in this lifestyle.
its a pleasure to help folks like you.

[sig .357]

Thank you,

[junkpile]

Sig, I must also commend you on your uncommonly good attitude on this.

Bottom line is, no one here wants to see you are your loved ones hurt or killed from something like this. Let us know where you're at on it. Lots of good folk to learn from here. I stop in a few times a day, mostly just to listen. I've learned more here than any other site I've been to.

Keep at it, and don't be a stranger.

[sig .357]

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[Crash_Corrigan]

I for one do not know the attraction of a super duper loading. I am old enuf not to enjoy recoil much anymore. I heal too slow and bruises last for weeks. I have all the recoil I can handle in my Winchester 1885 50-90 Sharps with black powder. That thing with a 695 gr creedmore cast boolit over 103 gr of BP kicks like an angry mule with PMS.

I do not imagine that a .45 Colt loaded in a 7 lb rifle would really have that much recoil but maybe I am wrong there. In either case please read what others have posted and get yourself a good loading manual and follow the recipies therein. It is not rocket science but you can really get hurt here or injure somebody else when you rifle comes apart. A chrony is an excellent idea but use some common sense.......

[junkpile]

If that 12.7 written in the column is your load, you're over max for a 300 gr slug by that data. I'm not familiar with Silhouette, but many powders work in a normal range. If you drop below or above that range, you can end up with a pressure curve doing bad things, or inconsistent burn, etc.

But don't take that 13.8 max load for a 255gr and apply it to a 300 gr. Your max is 11.0 as listed, and nearing 30ksi.

[sig .357]

Im breaking

[sig .357]

[QUOTE=opinion is Henry's rifles are very well built and satisfying to shoot.
Jim

[northmn]

As Doug mentioned also. I really ahve a problem with how some laod the 45 Colt because there are a lot of guns out there that cannot take those loads. I have a Ruger pistol in that caliber and I admit I like the maximum Colt Peacemaker loads which are staarting loads for the Ruger as listed in my manuals. Newer manuals seem to be reluctant to lsit anything but peacemaker loads. My Speer manual states plainly that if you want 44 mag performance get a 44 mag. Not all that bad advice. I like the 45 Ruger because I do not like the recoil from the 44 mag full bore loading and the 45 has an amazing whallop for its printed ballistics. Some rifle laods are listed with slower burning powders that might give you the best of both worlds.

DP

[Lefty Red]

I was a die hard 44mag runner at full throttle. I have picked up my BH's cyclinder and base pin and have to put it back together after shooting some "hot"loads! Makes me sick thinking about it now.

I have the 44spec and it does it all at special velocity. I don't even run my 357mag hard anymore!

Anyways, my buddy got his Henry GB last week,in 45LC, and i have reloading for him and I am really impressed at the rifle and the caliber. No need to go up to Ruger Only Loads! If a Lee 300gr GC FN won't drop it, then grab the 454! :)

Lefty

[sig .357]

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[sig .357]

Ive been called a troll been made to feel stupid and a few even tried to help me and to those i appreciate it and to those who think everyone is stupid or at least i am, ive been reloading long enough to know better then to exceed the recommended load of each piece of brass my terminology and the way i said a few things made a few of you jump and treat me like an idiot and i regret that i didnt spend more time reading this forum before i jumped in posting or i would of known not to post anything without my actual log sheet in front of me, but with that said i will not be back ill lurk and thats it.... If it even matters this will be my first and last post.....peace out fellow reloaders be safe and keep those logs handy.....

Jim

[Daddyfixit]

"I can't help about the shape I'm in
I can't sing, I ain't pretty and my legs are thin
But don't ask me what I think of you
I might not give the answer that you want me to"

[robertbank]

OP has effectively deleted his threads. No need for further comment.

Take Care

Bob