Ya'll ain't going to believe this

[6.5 mike]

Went to a gun show on the 1st, while talking with two of the dealers I know a fellow came up carrying a '99 saddle gun from the 70's run in 250-3000. Asked what he was wanted & he said $200, offered him 175 & we settled on 180. Guess there are still good deals to be found. Best part it's a 1 in 10 twist, my EG is a 1 in 14, knew I bought the NOE 25cal mould in all 3 weights for a reason.

Now for the not so good part, could see it's missing the lever bushing & screw & the rear sight has a broken spring. The safety didn't work so pulled it down & found Bubba had been at work. Looks like they tried to tune the trigger at the wrong place. It's also missing the firing pin retract spring. Course if you don't know it's there it will get away from you. Numrich does have all the parts except the bushing screw so restoring it won't be much problem. Blueing is in the shape you would expect in light of the condition & wood has some nicks & dings but no cracks I could see. I'll know more when I strip it. All in all figure this is one of my best shows.:bigsmyl2:

[richhodg66]

I have one of those that is quite nice, but in the limited shooting I've done with it, it's not real accurate compared to other 99s I have. Nice gun, good cartridge. When I work with it more I'm sure it'll do better.

Sounds like you got a heck of a deal.

[starmac]

Dadgum, do you feel like a thief yet. I know a guy with a newer barrel on his, and it shoots 120 grainers very well.

[TheCelt]

Good find!!! I was there early Sat but had the wife with me so didn't do any deals. I did see a guy walking around with a case containing a SS Dan Wesson .357 with three barrels for $900 I would have loved to look at but it was not to be.

[snaketail]

A few years ago I "built" a 250-3000 with a full-length Mannlicher stock. A woman I knew saw it and wanted it for her farm. Two weeks later she wanted to return it because the LGS wouldn't order her any ammo - said she'd have to use 250 Savage, but she insisted on 250-3000.

I gave her back her money.

Nice find.

[OverMax]

Not to too many things wrong with it. No doubt you did OK on this purchase.

[Island Trash]

I had been looking for 250 savage brass for 2 years. Just wanted to pass along that cabelas had Remington brass (50 count bags) listed as in stock as of last night. I grabbed 10 bags (500 pieces). Should keep my great grandfathers model 99 takedown 250-3000 going a bit longer.

[pietro]

a few years ago i "built" a 250-3000 with a full-length mannlicher stock. A woman i knew saw it and wanted it for her farm. Two weeks later she wanted to return it because the lgs wouldn't order her any ammo - said she'd have to use 250 savage, but she insisted on 250-3000.

I gave her back her money.

Nice find.



rotflmao !


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[helice]

So many of you men are so capable with arms and their repair. I am jealous of your abilities. Great find and what a great cartridge. I have a 1899 in 250-3000 with the faster twist. It does ok with the lighter boolits but not so good with the heavys.

[badbob454]

can you make 250 savage brass from its parent cartridge , the 30-06?

[ratboy]

can you make 250 savage brass from its parent cartridge , the 30-06?

yes.
i have the forming dies. it can be done without forming dies if you are creative.
308 is easier.
gotta watch the neck thickness tho. sometimes they get too thick and then reaming is necessary.

[Island Trash]

I believe your best bet for making 250 savage would be using 22-250 or 243. I had been looking for about 2 years for brass of the correct headstamp for my old 250.

[John Allen]

That was a great deal. I would have jumped on that.

[DLCTEX]

I did have 5 boxes of 250 Sav. ammo, can't remember if I sold it. I'll have to look and see.

[Artful]

Nice find :drinks:
- but you forgot to get us pictures [smilie=1:

Best forming is from 22-250 (who's parent is 250 savage)
Always neck up when you can as it thins the brass, and if you fire form not extra steps just prime, powder, buffer and shoot to get the case you want.

- necking down requires you check for uniformity and possibly have to thin the brass as well.

Don't forget to anneal!

[6.5 mike]

Thanks for the replies guys. Did finally slug it this weekend, 0.2505/0.257, same as my eg. Finished cleaning the **** out of the inside, fixed the safety, & started on the wood. Forgot to say it's missing a piece on the left side of the stock at the bottom of the receiver, shouldn't be hard to fix as it's a clean break. And I know the trick with 22-250's, already have some loaded with the wrong kind of bullets, lol. S/N is A8133xx so guessing it is an early A model from the '70's, know they made them between '71 & '81. Now to hunt down the lever parts, can always take the bushing & screw out of my 99C .243 to get some trigger time with it.

[6.5 mike]

Found another one that has been in a fire $25. Already have the bushing screw out.

[osteodoc08]

Went to a gun show on the 1st, while talking with two of the dealers I know a fellow came up carrying a '99 saddle gun from the 70's run in 250-3000. Asked what he was wanted & he said $200, offered him 175 & we settled on 180. Guess there are still good deals to be found. Best part it's a 1 in 10 twist, my EG is a 1 in 14, knew I bought the NOE 25cal mould in all 3 weights for a reason.

Now for the not so good part, could see it's missing the lever bushing & screw & the rear sight has a broken spring. The safety didn't work so pulled it down & found Bubba had been at work. Looks like they tried to tune the trigger at the wrong place. It's also missing the firing pin retract spring. Course if you don't know it's there it will get away from you. Numrich does have all the parts except the bushing screw so restoring it won't be much problem. Blueing is in the shape you would expect in light of the condition & wood has some nicks & dings but no cracks I could see. I'll know more when I strip it. All in all figure this is one of my best shows.:bigsmyl2:

Pics or it didnt happen!

[Artful]

Found another one that has been in a fire $25. Already have the bushing screw out.

Was it salvageable or just gone?

[6.5 mike]

Artful, not real sure what I'll be able to save yet. I did get the bushing screw out without to much trouble but that's bout it. It's one of the odd balls, .243 old style trigger/ sear & lever safety that's broken but in the off position. Also has a rotary mag but no window on left. I really have not spent to much time on it yet, been working on a 39a & a Savage NRA match rifle that's in a 23A stock I got last weekend at a local show. I do know Gun parts wants $26.15 for the screw so made out on that. While I was tapping on the bushing a primer fell out on the bench, kinda made me think twice about getting rough with it, lol.

[richhodg66]

That description makes it a 99E, lever safety and no hole with a round counter in it. I have one in .308 that is a good shooter. I hope yours is salvageable.

[6.5 mike]

Thanks for the info Rich, most of my dealings have been with the older ones. Hopefully I can get it apart without to much damage, then the great parts hunt can start all over again, LOL.

[richhodg66]

As I understand it, around the one million serial number mark, Savage went over to the tang safety on most models of the 99. The E model was introduced (E for Economy) and kept the lever safety, I presume to use up existing parts supplies.

I happen to prefer the lever safety, and not having the round counter isn't giving up much to me. If you can get that one going, you'll have a good rifle. Might also make the basis for a conversion, I've always thought a 99 in .260 Remington would be really cool.

[bigted]

kinda reminds me of my first lever action ... an older then dirt 300 savage. that old girl took me to school in many ways. I started to reload at the same time ... with a loading tool called a "pacific" loading system ... pound the cases in to size ... pound em back out with the drift supplied with the depriming pin ... pound in the new primer ...[whewww forgot about the flash when I did this a bit wrong] ... then pounding the shell back together with a snazzy new bullet after dipping powder with my new spiffy Lee dippers.

man I had a ball with that rifle and loading system ... wonder I didn't blow myself up doing all that pounding with a steel hammer ... who says God don't watch out for fools and kids?

later I landed a 250 savage with a snable fore end and a Weaver scope and stood in wonder at the low recoil of that shooter. these old savage levers are a wonderful rifle and I congratulate you on a good find. hope you have as much fun with yours as I had with mine.

[starmac]

We have something in common, My first rifle, actually only one for lots of years was an old 300 savage. I bought a lee whackem loader to reload with and loaded a lot of rounds with that thing. I don't remember the exact cost, but I'm thinking the Lee loader, a pound of powder, primers and jacketed projected projectiles combined, cost me less than 30 bucks to get started. lol

[bigted]

yep I guess it were a LEE that I pounded my rounds together with ... later I got the "pacific that had a screw together system that would put blisters on my hands while watching TV and loading those 300 cases. guess the memory IS the second thing to go huh?

fond memory's for sure.

[6.5 mike]

I had a 250 t/d years ago & did my loading with a leewhackum tool. Guess a lot of us started reloading the same way. I also prefer the lever safety models, makes tuning the trigger so much easier. I got the 99c on a whim, thinking I could always rebarrel it, maybe 7m/m08 if the spool would work. One of the members here has one redone to .260, don't member who. Figure I'll work on getting this one apart a little at a time, starting with getting the bolt to open & lever parts to move. The bolt is unlocked so a good place to start. I did order a bushing yesterday so I will be able to shoot the 99a when it gets here just need to clean up the screw head & reblue. Got some of the NOE 25 cal boolits already cast, 85, 100, & 120s for the 257 bob. my mold drops all 3 weights.

[richhodg66]

Some guys say that the rotors in the magazine aren't as finicky between calibers for conversions as a guy might think. I'd think one in .243 would work with 7mm-08 or .250. The E models have aluminum rotors which might make a difference or might not.

I'm really loving my new to me .358, sure was easy to get deer killing power loads with good accuracy out of it. I'm starting to toy with the idea of hunting up another E model .308 and have it rebored to .358 so I could have one with the lever safety and a pistol grip stock.

[6.5 mike]

I knew what the guy had when he walked up, & was hoping it was a 358. Looking for one to go along with my 35 Whelen.

[6.5 mike]

Bushings in, wood done, need to fix the lever slack & it's ready to shoot. Have a set of weaver bases that were on the 243 so I can see what I'm doing. Now where did I put the 250 stuff ?

[6.5 mike]

Made it to the range yesterday, the 99 shoots well with 60 gr bad word bullets & a starting load. I had some 22-250s to re-form back to 250 Sav already loaded. Put an old V7 Weaver on with Weaver bases that came off the .243, looks like an old timer now. Need to shoot up the rest of these & then see how it likes NOE boolits. I'll start with the 85 gr'ers. What I do re-forming these is lightly flare the case mouth with a Lee flaring die so it starts over the expander button easier. Helps keep from cracking the necks. I use Imperial sizing wax to lube. Found this while doing 7m/m & 6.5 m/m tcu's.

[gewing]

Some guys say that the rotors in the magazine aren't as finicky between calibers for conversions as a guy might think. I'd think one in .243 would work with 7mm-08 or .250. The E models have aluminum rotors which might make a difference or might not.

I'm really loving my new to me .358, sure was easy to get deer killing power loads with good accuracy out of it. I'm starting to toy with the idea of hunting up another E model .308 and have it rebored to .358 so I could have one with the lever safety and a pistol grip stock.
I have a .250, a and was hoping I would be able to rechamber it to the Ackley improved. A quick test indicated that a .22-250 improved will not fit in the rotary magazine. :( It will not stabilize the Barnes 100 gr ts I was hoping to use. Must be the old slow twist rifling. Oh well, should still work fine for whitetail with 87 gr.

I looked up how to strip it down, so that I could look to see if the magazine could be altered, but I am not sure I want to open that can of worms.

I keep heating that the .250 is dead/obsolete. Silly, Silly people.

[6.5 mike]

Gewing, you might try the Speer 100 gr, it's short for the weight & I know it works in a 1 in 14 twist. I had used it in a 250 t/d I had with good results.
When & if I can get the burnt one apart it may become a .358. Raining to bad to play outside today.