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glockky
02-02-2014, 01:08 PM
A guy I work with is wanting me to load him up some ammo for his 44 carbine. I have had excellent results out of my SBH and marlin with 50/50 COWW/pure lead and a little tin on deer. Will this alloy work good on hogs at about 1500-1700 fps.

These bullet I am casting is accurate molds 43-255R

Wolfer
02-02-2014, 01:40 PM
Yes. Theres not much more I can say.

300savage
02-02-2014, 11:10 PM
make em heavy, put a big flat face on them , and get to hog killn.

singleshot
02-03-2014, 12:04 AM
I don't think there's much I can add. For simplicity, straight air-cooled wheel weights work fine as well.

DLCTEX
02-03-2014, 01:02 AM
Lead, tin, antimony, and a touch of arsenic. Otherwise known as wheel weights.:grin:

Lonegun1894
02-03-2014, 04:10 AM
I've hunted them with .22LRs, so I am kinda prejudiced, but I think once you get to .43 cal, it really doesn't matter what it's made of, but rather where you put it. If his placement is good, he will eat pork that night. I say this after having seen the vast majority of my shots with 36gr HPs enter the rib cage on one side and exit out the other, taking out both lungs and giving me short tracking jobs, usually less than 20yds, always less than 50yds. In fact, I don't think you need to push his .43 to 1700fps, but it won't hurt his chances a bit if you do. I say load some up and try to work up an accurate load if possible.

Digital Dan
02-03-2014, 08:38 AM
Them .22 LR bullets will overpenetrate.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/muddler/pig%20pen/DSCN3596_zps474ade2b.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/muddler/media/pig%20pen/DSCN3596_zps474ade2b.jpg.html)

:roll:

L Ross
02-03-2014, 10:22 AM
I don't think I'd admit manufacturing ammo for another person on a public forum. I think there are some legal issues involved. Now if the two of you worked on loading the ammo I don't think you will have crossed a line. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable on ATF regs can correct me if I am wrong.

Duke

Digital Dan
02-03-2014, 10:44 AM
Devil is in the details with that, state of residence being more significant than Federal law. Don't think the OP crossed any lines in context of federal code. One of the fine distinctions is whether the transaction is or is not a sale for profit as opposed to a hobby.

Larry Gibson
02-03-2014, 11:57 AM
Only problem is if you load the ammo for profit and are "in the business" of manufacturing ammunition. Loading for your friends is not a problem in most locals (some it is).

That alloy will be excellent BTW.

Larry Gibson

Bullshop Junior
02-03-2014, 03:39 PM
Should work good.

glockky
02-03-2014, 08:50 PM
I am not selling him the ammo. Just loading him up some ammo to use on his hog hunt.

mikedp
02-03-2014, 09:08 PM
I am not selling him the ammo. Just loading him up some ammo to use on his hog hunt.

Good answer. ;)

Lonegun1894
02-04-2014, 12:57 AM
What are friends for? He's lucky.

Hickok
02-06-2014, 11:36 AM
I have always used straight ACWW in my revolvers and 50/50 lead/WW in my Sharps 54cal, and they pass completely through every deer I have shot. Big nice holes in and out, and the animal runs a short distance and drops! I never find a bullet to examine, so I don't know if there are working well or not!:kidding:..........:-D

Digital Dan
02-06-2014, 12:03 PM
Well, in the absence of fact, theory is fine.:-D

TMenezes
02-07-2014, 10:32 PM
At 1500 to 1700 fps that slug would probably pass through 2 or 3 pigs. I suppose as long as your not getting leading then there's no harm in that. I personally find that 1200 fps does all I need in in 44 mag (or any other big bore) and creates a lot less blast/recoil.

As for lead alloy it doesn't matter much as long as its not so hard that its brittle. Wouldn't want an overly brittle slug driven to hard and shattering on a shoulder bone.

Hackleback
02-08-2014, 01:19 AM
What ever shoots good. WW is just fine.

Hickok
02-08-2014, 07:20 AM
[QUOTE=TM I personally find that 1200 fps does all I need in in 44 mag (or any other big bore) and creates a lot less blast/recoil.

I found out the same thing years ago too. I load my .357 mag with #358429 and my .44 mag with #429421 cast of ACWW to 1200fps. This also is the velocity where my groups tightened up with both boolits.

Fenring
02-10-2014, 01:35 AM
A guy I work with is wanting me to load him up some ammo for his 44 carbine. I have had excellent results out of my SBH and marlin with 50/50 COWW/pure lead and a little tin on deer. Will this alloy work good on hogs at about 1500-1700 fps.

These bullet I am casting is accurate molds 43-255R


Yes. :)

On the far right is a Lee 310gr FN @ 1500fps. Straight air cooled COWW's and recovered from a pig's shoulder.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v616/Fenring/Shooting/Goodooga%202010/P1050767.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Fenring/media/Shooting/Goodooga%202010/P1050767.jpg.html)


And another.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v616/Fenring/Gpigs%202013/P1020381_zps061569db.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Fenring/media/Gpigs%202013/P1020381_zps061569db.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v616/Fenring/Gpigs%202013/P1020388_zps1215cae8.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Fenring/media/Gpigs%202013/P1020388_zps1215cae8.jpg.html)

300savage
02-10-2014, 11:28 AM
personally i prefer to not be able to recover a bullet from anything i have shot.
if its a varmint i want it to blow up inside into a million pieces, and if its a game animal of any kInd i want to blow a hole out the other side.

now pigs,, just shoot em.

taco650
02-10-2014, 10:15 PM
A guy I work with is wanting me to load him up some ammo for his 44 carbine. I have had excellent results out of my SBH and marlin with 50/50 COWW/pure lead and a little tin on deer. Will this alloy work good on hogs at about 1500-1700 fps.

These bullet I am casting is accurate molds 43-255R

Yes, just make sure they're sized to fit his bore.

Dinny
02-17-2014, 12:52 PM
If it's a semi auto carbine then I'd be more worried about lube clogging the gas port than the alloy used. I have a Ruger 44 semi auto that only gets shot with "j" bullets for that reason. Disregard if his carbine is a levergun or single shot.

Air cooled wheel weights have worked well on Oklahoma hogs.

Thanks, Dinny

triggerhappy243
03-03-2014, 10:24 AM
Dinny, I did not know OK. had hogs. my brother lives a little north of ya. If Ida known, I would have brought a rifle this past october.

dg31872
03-03-2014, 10:32 AM
Contrary to popular belief, hogs are not armor plated. They die just like other animals with good shot placement.

triggerhappy243
03-03-2014, 11:48 AM
I do agree that hogs are not difficult to kill... providing the bullet gets to go thru the vitals.

MBTcustom
03-03-2014, 05:35 PM
Seriously. Just give them a boolit hole earring and move on. It even works with a .22.