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sheepdog
01-20-2014, 01:45 PM
Just curious if anyone knows of a mold such as this? Seems like a good use for all that zinc we never can use.

Michael J. Spangler
01-20-2014, 11:52 PM
Haven't heard of one. My brother in law just drills a hole in the cars and uses my bottom pour pot to fill it up with molten lead.

bruce drake
01-21-2014, 12:21 AM
I used my 100gr .257 bullet mold and a 5/16 drill bit and some wood glue to hold them in after drilling the bottom under the car's hood area. Worked beautifully for all three of my boys and their time in the Scouts. If you needed a lot of weight, just increase the bullet to a .312 and use a 5/16 drill bit.

Bruce

Dryball
01-21-2014, 01:40 AM
go to the pet store and buy some cuttlebones that you put in bird cages. You can only use them once but they carve easily. If not try one of those fleabay core molds and pick your diameter

Bigslug
01-21-2014, 10:28 AM
Back in the day, pop and I cut out a cavity in the bottom of the car and filled it with a mixture of bird shot and Elmer's glue. Easy to get the right weight when dealing with small pellets rather than big lumps.

I'd probably be inclined to use a .38 wadcutter mold, making cavities for the slugs with a drill bit of appropriate diameter. I figure the lube grooves would hold enough JB Weld to keep them in place.

Old School Big Bore
01-21-2014, 11:10 AM
I used to weight my boys' pinewood derby cars with the drill-bit/boolit method but the birdshot/glue way sounds good too. You can make a temporary mold out of silicone - just press a waxed carving of what you want the weight to spec out at into silicone, let it cure, and you should be able to make a couple of castings with it. Works for lead, anyway, the melting point of zinc is not that much higher...

CastingFool
01-21-2014, 12:56 PM
I made a fixture that allowed me to rout out an opening in the bottom of the car. The opening was large and deep enough to hot glue a thin ingot that I cast using my ingot mold. I would finish the car and weigh it, and subtract the resulting weight from the 5 oz max allowed weight for the car. I would weigh out the difference in lead, minus a few grains, melt it and pour it into my ingot mold. Once it was cooled, I could hot glue it into the car. At the final weigh in, I would take my hot glue gun and some lead shot. If I needed extra weight I would just hot glue the required amount.

imashooter2
01-21-2014, 01:13 PM
I usually drill a hole or two and insert wad cutters to suit. Once I dug a trough out of the bottom, put a couple wood srews in to hold the "ingot" and then poured molten lead right onto the wood. It worked just fine.

sprinkintime
01-21-2014, 01:15 PM
I'm not quite sure this is the right place for this but will give it a shot. On a small lead dropper to make shot, such as a pan with nozzles in it, how high off the ground does it have to be to give round shot, second what would be the best media to drop in, water,or a coolent of some type?

Thanks; Sprink

Sig
01-21-2014, 01:30 PM
9416194162My son & I would use a forstner bit on the bottom. Fill with lead shot & 5 minute epoxy. His last one used a little more decorative weighting. Here's a pic.

MarkP
01-21-2014, 01:44 PM
40 years ago my Dad drilled mine with a 3/4" spade bit and filled it with 7-1/2 shot to correct wt. and covered with Elmers glue.

Dryball
01-21-2014, 04:25 PM
I don't want to play favorites but...Sig, that is an awesome idea. I love it!

remy3424
01-21-2014, 10:15 PM
I... or my son, "thinned" the body by splitting the thickness...then drilled holes through the width of the car behind the rear axle...put a little wood filler in one end and fill them almost full with lead then dab a little filler over the end. Use a small bit to drill out some lead if over weight...get right on the 5 ounce limit or whatever it is.....the rear weighted cars we made were always fast...polish those axles and don't miss under the head. Clean-up the tires...tread side, chuck-up in a drill press and use very fine sandpaper, use a pipe cleaner chucked in a drill with tooth paste to polish the inside. Stretch out the wheelbase if allowed and lower the car also.

Pb2au
01-24-2014, 09:19 AM
Pretty much what most of the others said. We just drilled where they wanted the weight and glued in some of my 30 cal boolits. I just helped a friend of mine add lead to his son's car. Which by the way, was a copy of the Oscar Meyer wiener mobile!!!!!!!!!

bhn22
01-24-2014, 07:26 PM
You want a non-bullet design mold for a derby car? Do an online search for a suppository mold. They do look like bullets though, but without grease grooves.

lup
01-24-2014, 08:05 PM
I buy lead wire and cut it to length. Several sources including Amazon to get enough for a car for under $5.

Any core mould will do what you want unless you need full car length pieces.

rexherring
01-24-2014, 08:42 PM
I've made a lot of molds out of three layers of aluminum foil in whatever shape I needed.

mold maker
01-24-2014, 08:45 PM
In case the official scale didn't match, I always used a washer and screw over a hole full of shot.

dbosman
01-25-2014, 04:25 PM
Check the making shot stickies for dimensions.
Cheap, Walmart type, fabric softener works for shot coolant.


I'm not quite sure this is the right place for this but will give it a shot. On a small lead dropper to make shot, such as a pan with nozzles in it, how high off the ground does it have to be to give round shot, second what would be the best media to drop in, water,or a coolent of some type?

Thanks; Sprink