tomme boy
01-20-2014, 12:31 AM
OK I had this listed down in the pistol forum but not much going on to help there. So I am moving it up here.
I have been looking to get a new pistol for a while now. I used to have a CZ75B a few years ago. I loved that pistol. Today I was at a local store to see if they had any powder. I walked over to where the pistols were at and seen a polymer pistol that looked like the cz75. I picked it up and looked it over. It felt very good in the hand. It is a little thinner than the cz in the grip. Had a 16 round magazine. It comes apart the same as the cz. Trigger feels ok. It is the same SA/DA trigger. The barrel and the recoil guide rod is hard chrome plated. It should last a very long time.
I had to have it. $315 out the door. It is imported by EAA from Turkey and is the SAR Arms. I won't be able to get out to shoot it for a few days. When I got home, I slugged the barrel and it measured 0.3557" Perfect! I am going to try the Lee 120 TC with 3.7grs of Bullseye. I am going to try the 0.357" sizer first. That should seal the bore up.
Here is a pic of it next to a Browning Hi Power for size.
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(Second part)
Well I took it out for a very quick run today. I fired two mags through it and it functioned perfect. Shot a little low at 10 yards. Grouped pretty good.
Now the bad. It leaded up the barrel a little on the two mags. It cleaned up fairly quick, but it was leaded. I pulled a couple of rounds apart and they were still sized at 0.357" so the cases are not sizing them down when seating them. My alloy runs about 17 for hardness. I water drop all of my boolits. It is easier for me to water drop them. Does anyone think maybe soften them up a little might help? Or maybe up the powder charge a little because of them being hard? The lube I am using is NRA 50/50. I have other powders to try as well. 231, imr7625, tightgroup, red dot, unique, hs6.
(Third part)
Well I went out today and shot off a little over 100 rounds. I first shot 50 rounds with 3.9 grs. of imr7625. They shot ok. I used mixed brass for this test. It was mainly for function. The boolits were sized 0.358" this time also. I also backed off the crimp a little as the rounds just fall into the chamber. I think I could use a 0.359" if I had to. The round still fit loose in the chamber. It still leaded a little. It is all the way down the bore.
The second test was to check the 3.7 grs. if bullseye again with all WIN cases. These were sized at 0.357" but a little softer lead. I kept 32 rds in a 2.5" circle at 12 yards. This was just resting my hand on the bench. The leading stayed the same. It never got any worse. I ended up shooting 16 rounds of jacketed through it to wipe out the barrel and maybe break any edges. I don't think they will with the hard chrome bore. But it can't hurt.
Anyone have any ideas???????
I have been looking to get a new pistol for a while now. I used to have a CZ75B a few years ago. I loved that pistol. Today I was at a local store to see if they had any powder. I walked over to where the pistols were at and seen a polymer pistol that looked like the cz75. I picked it up and looked it over. It felt very good in the hand. It is a little thinner than the cz in the grip. Had a 16 round magazine. It comes apart the same as the cz. Trigger feels ok. It is the same SA/DA trigger. The barrel and the recoil guide rod is hard chrome plated. It should last a very long time.
I had to have it. $315 out the door. It is imported by EAA from Turkey and is the SAR Arms. I won't be able to get out to shoot it for a few days. When I got home, I slugged the barrel and it measured 0.3557" Perfect! I am going to try the Lee 120 TC with 3.7grs of Bullseye. I am going to try the 0.357" sizer first. That should seal the bore up.
Here is a pic of it next to a Browning Hi Power for size.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/tommeboy/101_0360_zpse7734f75.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/tommeboy/media/101_0360_zpse7734f75.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/tommeboy/101_0361_zps59224ad8.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/tommeboy/media/101_0361_zps59224ad8.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/tommeboy/101_0358_zps7df55a1c.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/tommeboy/media/101_0358_zps7df55a1c.jpg.html)
(Second part)
Well I took it out for a very quick run today. I fired two mags through it and it functioned perfect. Shot a little low at 10 yards. Grouped pretty good.
Now the bad. It leaded up the barrel a little on the two mags. It cleaned up fairly quick, but it was leaded. I pulled a couple of rounds apart and they were still sized at 0.357" so the cases are not sizing them down when seating them. My alloy runs about 17 for hardness. I water drop all of my boolits. It is easier for me to water drop them. Does anyone think maybe soften them up a little might help? Or maybe up the powder charge a little because of them being hard? The lube I am using is NRA 50/50. I have other powders to try as well. 231, imr7625, tightgroup, red dot, unique, hs6.
(Third part)
Well I went out today and shot off a little over 100 rounds. I first shot 50 rounds with 3.9 grs. of imr7625. They shot ok. I used mixed brass for this test. It was mainly for function. The boolits were sized 0.358" this time also. I also backed off the crimp a little as the rounds just fall into the chamber. I think I could use a 0.359" if I had to. The round still fit loose in the chamber. It still leaded a little. It is all the way down the bore.
The second test was to check the 3.7 grs. if bullseye again with all WIN cases. These were sized at 0.357" but a little softer lead. I kept 32 rds in a 2.5" circle at 12 yards. This was just resting my hand on the bench. The leading stayed the same. It never got any worse. I ended up shooting 16 rounds of jacketed through it to wipe out the barrel and maybe break any edges. I don't think they will with the hard chrome bore. But it can't hurt.
Anyone have any ideas???????