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45fan
01-09-2014, 01:12 PM
So I stumbled into a free pound container of H110 powder. The load manuals I have dont have any info to load 44 mag with this powder. Does anybody have any load data for this powder? Or is it just not a good powder to use for 44 mag? I have different weight boolits I would like to load from 240 gr up to 300 gr.

wvmanchu
01-09-2014, 01:19 PM
Try the Hodgdon Powder reloading guide on their web site, Lots of loads for 44 mag.

DougGuy
01-09-2014, 01:22 PM
H110 is great powder for a 44 mag! It steps out just a tad more than a max load of 2400. Copy/paste from Hogdon load data:






Cartridge: 44 Remington Magnum
Load Type: Pistol
Starting Loads
Maximum Loads

Bullet Weight (Gr.) Manufacturer Powder Bullet Diam. C.O.L. Grs. Vel. (ft/s) Pressure Grs. Vel. (ft/s) Pressure

180 GR. HDY XTP Hodgdon H110 .430" 1.600" 29.0 1714 21,800 CUP 31.5 1896 29,900 CUP

200 GR. NOS JHP Hodgdon H110 .429" 1.600" 27.5 1708 29,000 CUP 28.5 1806 37,800 CUP

210 GR. SIE JHC Hodgdon H110 .430" 1.600" 26.0 1615 29,900 CUP 27.0 1665 31,100 CUP

225 GR. HDY FTX Hodgdon H110 .430" 1.665" 19.4 1338 26,700 PSI 21.5 1482 33,400 PSI

225 GR. SPR JHP Hodgdon H110 .429" 1.575" 23.0 1468 25,600 CUP 25.0 1617 36,300 CUP

240 GR. NOS JHP Hodgdon H110 .429" 1.600" 23.0 1413 25,200 CUP 24.0 1522 36,200 CUP

270 GR. SPR GDSP Hodgdon H110 .429" 1.600" 19.5 1295 29,300 CUP 21.5 1421 37,700 CUP

280 GR. SFT JHP Hodgdon H110 .430" 1.700" 18.5 1214 27,000 CUP 20.5 1342 36,100 CUP

300 GR. HDY XTP Hodgdon H110 .430" 1.600" 18.0 1266 35,100 CUP 19.0 1325 38,800 CUP

325 GR. BTB LFN GC Hodgdon H110 .430" 1.730" 20.0 1264 30,800 CUP 22.0 1368 38,100 CUP

330 GR. BTB LFN GC Hodgdon H110 .430" 1.730" 19.0 1239 30,200 CUP 20.8 1350 38,800 CUP

355 GR. BTB LFN GC Hodgdon H110 .430" 1.710" 17.5 1168 29,300 CUP 18.8 1245 38,000 CUP

gunbuff58
01-09-2014, 01:24 PM
http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp

NSB
01-09-2014, 01:27 PM
It's the same powder as WW296. I'll bet your loading manuals are full of loads for that powder. Check the hodgdon sight and you'll see it's the same thing as H110

C.F.Plinker
01-09-2014, 02:13 PM
Just remember that both H110 and Winchester 296 are for full power loads and should not be reduced more than 3% below the max load shown. If reduced, the ignition becomes erratic.

Lefty SRH
01-09-2014, 02:25 PM
Wow how old are your manuals? H110 is a great 44mag powder. As suggested dont reduce and look at Hodgdon data.

dilly
01-09-2014, 02:27 PM
Don't forget to use magnum primers.

DougGuy
01-09-2014, 03:07 PM
There is much discussion for and against magnum primers for this application. I use Winchester WLP which is perfectly fine for slow burning powders yet I think they are between std and magnum.

bhn22
01-09-2014, 03:57 PM
WLP was designed for use with that powder.

Mk42gunner
01-09-2014, 04:01 PM
Wow how old are your manuals? H110 is a great 44mag powder. As suggested dont reduce and look at Hodgdon data.

This was my question also. It may be time to buy a new manual.

Robert

W.R.Buchanan
01-09-2014, 08:11 PM
45 fan: I would suggest throwing that manual you have away,,,since any manual that doesn't have H110 in it for .44's probably is missing a lot more data as well.

I have never seen such a thing. Maybe you could keep it as a historical reference.

Randy

DougGuy
01-09-2014, 09:06 PM
I just noticed something...


325 GR. BTB LFN GC Hodgdon H110 .430" 1.730" 20.0 1264 30,800 CUP 22.0 1368 38,100 CUP

330 GR. BTB LFN GC Hodgdon H110 .430" 1.730" 19.0 1239 30,200 CUP 20.8 1350 38,800 CUP

355 GR. BTB LFN GC Hodgdon H110 .430" 1.710" 17.5 1168 29,300 CUP 18.8 1245 38,000 CUP

Those are for Bear Tooth Bullets - Long Flat Nose w/Gas Check.. Way to go Hodgdon!

Kevin Rohrer
01-09-2014, 09:10 PM
It's also a great powder for .30 Carbine.

seaboltm
01-09-2014, 09:28 PM
I use a WLP primer over 21.5 grains of H110 using starline cases. The boolit is a Lee 310 grain WW that is WC. Lube is White Label 2500+. I do use a gas check. I seat the boolit to the longest crimp groove possible as this Lee mold has two crimp grooves. This load moves over my chrony at 1279 fps with a standard deviation of 7 fps. I use Unique with 240 grain bullets and have no h110 data to share with you on that. As to the 310 grain Lee load, it was well under the safe max load in my Ruger SRH. Keep that in mind as I don't know what you shoot. I took the Ruger SRH to 23 grains of H110 with that boolit before I got mild pressure signs. I then backed off to 21.5 grains for a hunting load. Your mileage may vary of course, and you should be careful. I will add that I started load development with the Lee 310 grain with 19 grains of H110, which seemed a bit light for that powder in the described load configuration.

MtGun44
01-09-2014, 11:41 PM
H110=W296, exact same powder. The only difference is the lot-to-lot variation
between the lot bought by Hodgdon and the lot bought by Winchester - in the old
days. Now both brands are bottled and distributed by Hodgdon, so they are
totally the same - of course, different lots will vary a touch.

Bill

Lefty SRH
01-10-2014, 08:21 AM
H110 is my go to powder for heavy BIG bore handgun loads.

selmerfan
01-10-2014, 11:08 PM
It's been mentioned already, but it's worth mentioning again. Do NOT use less than the minimum charge listed!

jimmyUT
01-10-2014, 11:13 PM
H110 /w296 is in my opinion the best powder for 44mag. Unfortunately I can only shoot semi jacketed because I have a desert eagle, but a 240gr over 23.5grs is ridiculously accurate. Plus it spits out a fireball from the muzzle like 12 inches out, so its got a fun factor as well :)

MtGun44
01-11-2014, 03:14 AM
Why only semi-jacketed in a Desert Eagle? No good reason that I know of not
to shoot boolits from a Desert Eagle.

Bill

LUBEDUDE
01-11-2014, 03:45 AM
Why only semi-jacketed in a Desert Eagle? No good reason that I know of not
to shoot boolits from a Desert Eagle.

Bill

The Ol' gas operated thang.

But I've gotten around that before in mine, plus HK P7's and Ruger 44 rifles by not going ape and shooting moderately. Then CLEAN very meticulously.

Duckiller
01-11-2014, 06:23 PM
Max load of H110 gives more than a 12" fire ball. Check out the Desert Eagle web site. Fireing a Desert Eagle at dusk is truely impressive. I believe the photo on the web site is why #2 son bought a Desert Eagle.

jimmyUT
01-11-2014, 08:50 PM
The Ol' gas operated thang.

But I've gotten around that before in mine, plus HK P7's and Ruger 44 rifles by not going ape and shooting moderately. Then CLEAN very meticulously.





The Ol' gas operated thang.

But I've gotten around that before in mine, plus HK P7's and Ruger 44 rifles by not going ape and shooting moderately. Then CLEAN very meticulously.

Yes correct. Unfortunately lead will foul up the Desert Eagle gas piston and system. If you are unlucky enough to encounter this youll find the system is impossible to clean because of a funky almost 90 degree turn in the tube. Typically the whole system has to be replaced which can cost a couple hundred bucks. Sucks

MtGun44
01-12-2014, 03:11 AM
Hmm. Not an advantage. I didn't know it was gas operated, thought it
was a big old recoil operated design.

Bill

45fan
01-13-2014, 02:58 PM
Thanks for the info gentlemen, I will go to hogdon web sight AND get a new manual.

jimmyUT
01-13-2014, 03:02 PM
Hmm. Not an advantage. I didn't know it was gas operated, thought it
was a big old recoil operated design.

Bill

Yeah, can't fire lead which sucks., But its still A LOT OF FUN to shoot :) especially with H110/W296

dudel
01-13-2014, 03:04 PM
It's also a great powder for .30 Carbine.

Started .30 Carb with H110 (and Magnum primers). Switched to 2400, and my accuracy improved and I could use SPP.

JesterGrin_1
01-13-2014, 03:42 PM
I use a WLP primer over 21.5 grains of H110 using starline cases. The boolit is a Lee 310 grain WW that is WC. Lube is White Label 2500+. I do use a gas check. I seat the boolit to the longest crimp groove possible as this Lee mold has two crimp grooves. This load moves over my chrony at 1279 fps with a standard deviation of 7 fps. I use Unique with 240 grain bullets and have no h110 data to share with you on that. As to the 310 grain Lee load, it was well under the safe max load in my Ruger SRH. Keep that in mind as I don't know what you shoot. I took the Ruger SRH to 23 grains of H110 with that boolit before I got mild pressure signs. I then backed off to 21.5 grains for a hunting load. Your mileage may vary of course, and you should be careful. I will add that I started load development with the Lee 310 grain with 19 grains of H110, which seemed a bit light for that powder in the described load configuration.

You are On It. I got the same load of 21.5 Gr of H-110/W-296 from .44Man here on the forum with the Lee 310Gr RNFP/GC. But I use Remington Brass and a Non Mag Fed Primer. Sorry I forgot the primer number. But I backed mine off to 21.0 just in case there is a variation in the powder. I use them in a Ruger Bisley .44 Mag.

I was wondering about the case volume of the .44 Mag Starline brass though. As I got some just to use for heavy loads in the .44 Mag but have not loaded any as of yet.

Horace
01-13-2014, 04:02 PM
45 fan: I would suggest throwing that manual you have away,,,since any manual that doesn't have H110 in it for .44's probably is missing a lot more data as well.

I have never seen such a thing. Maybe you could keep it as a historical reference.

Randy

More manuals the better! Horace