30-30 Varminter hmmm

[jbgoodstok]

Greetings everyone - new here and really excited about finding this site - I am getting into casting and really like my old Marlin 336 adl (24 inch barrel) and want to make some coyote loads - see the 311441 in the Lyman manual but appears it is no longer produced - it has the flat nose hence good for tube magazines. I also plan on casting for my 44 Win ae, Ruger vaqueros and my 45-70's.
I have been loading jacketed stuff (not a swear word here I hope) for many many (well not that many) years and got a couple interesting "varmint" loads for the old thutty-thutty but want to try this.
I hope to find some info and resources for moulds/molds?(which is it really?) and other stuff - and if any of you are into Coyote calling lets talk about that too - JB:)

[Maineboy]

Greetings to you jbgoodstok and welcome. You'll find plenty of 30-30 cast boolit shooters here with lots of fine suggestions. I see you're looking for a lightweight boolit for coyote medicine. While the 311441 may not be available anymore, may I humbly suggest another excellent choice, the Lee C309-113-F, more commonly known here as the "soup can", I've shot lots of them between 1200 and 2000 fps in my 30-30s and find it to be a very accurate boolit. I've killed nothing larger than red squirrels with it, but others have posted about killing deer. Personally. I'd like something in the 150-170 grain range, especially if I was planning shots of over 100 yards because those little boolits really start to drop at long range. BTW, you mentioned the 45-70 and some handguns your interested in casting for. Lots of info here about them as well.
Good luck and good shooting.

[Lead melter]

jbgoodstok

A hearty welcome to you!
If I can offer a few suggestions for your 30-30 varmint buster if you want a nice sedate round at about 1500 fps;
Lee 309-170-RF with gas check and 10 grains Unique over a WLR
Lee 309-150-RF with gas check and 10 grains Unique over a WLR [about 25 fps faster]
Lazer-Cast 170 RF over 10 grains Unique and WLR
Lazer-Cast 170 RF over 20 grains IMR-3031 and WLR

All above average 1485-1550 fps in my 336 with 20" barrel. All nice accurate loads, even more if you can get Federal GM210M primers.

Look for RandyRat posts. I believe he loads the Lee 170 over 26.5 grains IMR-3031 for something about 2400 fps. I'll get there eventually, but these nice mild loads are so much fun, it's hard to work toward a speed goal.

All the best and good luck.

[qajaq59]

I've been Using the 170 gr Oregon Laser Cast with a gas check and 28 gr of IMR 3031. It patterns right in with my jacketed Hornadys of the same weight without changing the sights. And I've had no problems with leading.

[jbgoodstok]

Guys this is great - thanks for the warm welcome and especially the good info - I am drooling(maybe thats why I'm warm)at the prospect of trying some of your tips and suggestions - and I'll keep you posted on my progress - again thanks for the warm welcome - JB:-D

[9.3X62AL]

Welcome aboard, JB! Another northern Nevadan that pours his own boolits......you guys almost have a quorum here.

Another pile-on for the Lee Soup Can here. In my 30-30's, it has shot quite well from 1200-2000 FPS. That 10.0 grains of Unique load listed above does quite well, as does 12.0 grains of 2400.

The 30-30 was my first rifle caliber I tried cast boolits in, along about 1985 or so. Lyman #311291 did most of the heavy lifting, but I was never real keen on that round nose banging into primers in the leverguns' tube magazines. They shot well, though--one in the chamber and one in the magazine. A few coyotes and mass quantities of jackrabbits have met untimely ends from the 30-30's and castings. Just last month I FINALLY got the classic 30-30 Lyman mould design--the #311041, a 170 grain flatnose. A better hunting boolit profile, it may get soft-pointed for use in the 30-06 as well.

The 30-30 and the 45-70 are the classic cast boolit rifle calibers.