Suitable brass for swaging 6.5mm?

[customcutter]

Anyone swaging 6.5mm? I'm building a set of dies for .224, but I'm also building a 6.5 Grendel, so thinking of building dies for it next.

What brass would be suitable for swaging 110-130gr 6.5 projectiles? What ogive?

thanks,
CC

[BT Sniper]

22 mag! A challenge but it can be done!

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?175471-264-from-22mag-brass/page3

BT

[customcutter]

Thanks, I knew someone had done it.
Why do you say it was a challenge? Any harder than swaging other calibers?
How does .17HMR compare to .22mags?

[Nickle]

Now, I knew 6.5 bullets could be made from 22 Mag brass, just didn't know they could be made that heavy.

Hmmm, I've got 264 bullet making dies, and 22 Mag brass. Even got a few 6.5's to try it in.

They'll be run a little hotter than a 6.5x55 will though. The good ones are 6.5 Rem Mag and 264 Win Mag, both Rem 700's.

Got a couple of Carcanos too. One's a rifle, the onther one a carbine, AKA JFK Special.

[BT Sniper]

The challenge I had was expanding the jacket up from .243 to .264. But again, it can be done. Mater of fact, nearly anything is possible! :)

BT

[Smokin7mm]

I have made bullet from 22mag all the way up to 7mm. The jackets are thin but if not pushed to hard and not a fast twist the will work. In a 6.5mm I can get about a 126gr Boat tail open tip (actually the lead comes right to the tip. I had an explaination on a thread on my process a while back. If you can't find it PM me an I will explain the process.

Bret

[Cane_man]

6.5mm, that is great CC... how available is 22 mag brass compared to 22LR, 9mm, or others??? seems like it would be brass found in limited quantities, might be something to think about...

[customcutter]

7mm, thanks the Grendel only runs about 2500fps with 123gr, but a 1 in 8 twist.

Cane, yes I don't think 22mag are very plentiful. That's why I was asking what would make suitable brass. Seems very limited at best. Maybe .17HMR's could be used for 85-90gr. Maybe a good plinker, don't know how well that neck will expand though???

[runfiverun]

you could always draw down another case too.
the 9mm/30 carbine might make that leap with a few annealings.
the new Winchester 17 round would definitely have possibility's for a 6.5 jacket.

[Cane_man]

i think you could draw 9mm down to 6.5mm, but it would take perhaps 8 draws with an arbor press! or if you used a hydraulic press you could cut down the draws to maybe 4 with an anneal after each draw? i dunno.

every two draws would required an anneal to cherry red, i think, but i it could be done... also, by the time you get the case down to .260 or so you would have to trim it, yet another step... but we got time since its just a hobby and enjoyable... i still get a buzz just watching cases turn colors while flame annealing! :Fire:

i am thinking about making a hydraulic press... you think that would be too difficult to make at home? but just the thought of it being too hard makes me want to do it :)

[BT Sniper]

FN 5.7x28 and 1/4" copper tubing will also work for 6.5s

[mikeym1a]

I've read these posts with interest, and wonder ..... the idea is to use the rimfire cases, with minimum preparation for bullet jackets. If you are looking at making larger boolits, how much more work is it to take sheet copper, and draw your own jackets? Is it that much more work than taking an existing case and forming it into a bullet jacket? I have only read about this, and never attempted it, so I'm completely ignorant. mikey

[bullet maker 57]

I made a punch to open up the neck of 17m2 and 17hmr. I open them just enough to fit over the normal derimming punch. Then thru the hydro press. I do get some very long 22 cal jackets.

[customcutter]

FN 5.7x28 and 1/4" copper tubing will also work for 6.5s

I think I'd try 22mag, 5.7 or 1/4" tubing before doing 8 draws on 9mm.:grin: Probably tubing will be the most common.

[tbird1960]

I think the new Winchester 17 super magnum would work well with .264 bullets. I currently prefer 17 HMR cases to make 6mm bullets.

[Swede44mag]

i think you could draw 9mm down to 6.5mm, but it would take perhaps 8 draws with an arbor press! or if you used a hydraulic press you could cut down the draws to maybe 4 with an anneal after each draw? i dunno.

every two draws would required an anneal to cherry red, i think, but i it could be done... also, by the time you get the case down to .260 or so you would have to trim it, yet another step... but we got time since its just a hobby and enjoyable... i still get a buzz just watching cases turn colors while flame annealing! :Fire:

i am thinking about making a hydraulic press... you think that would be too difficult to make at home? but just the thought of it being too hard makes me want to do it :)

Nothing to make other than something to hold the dies.
I have one of these in my Garage to press out wheel bearings.
http://www.harborfreight.com/20-ton-shop-press-32879.html

[Cane_man]

^^^ what i meant to say was pneumatic not hydraulic, but that looks like a good option as well

i have seen a few guys on here with pneumatic derimming settups for 22LR, looks interesting and a heck uva a lot easier than cranking down on a 30" piece of water pipe on a 2 ton arbor press