Now This takes guts

[Frozone]

Look at the quality of these.

http://www.armslist.com/posts/2459485/alaska-ammo-for-sale--lead-bullets-tips

Wrinkles all over, and how about that great fillout on the bases?
Custom BB, eh?


I also wounder if he knows he needs a FFL to sell those?

[AlaskanGuy]

Holy crapola Batman.... That poor guy needs to get his butt over to cast boolits and learn a few things...

Take a peek...

90956

[AlaskanGuy]

Holy crapola Batman.... That poor guy needs to get his butt over to cast boolits and learn a few things...

Take a peek...

90956

[s mac]

That's one way to get rid of culls.

[John Allen]

You know you really have no idea what you are doing when you post a pic with boolits that look like this.

[Bullshop Junior]

did anyone catch the price?

[gwpercle]

What is really sad is those things are probably selling like hot cakes to people who don't know any better.

[Walter Laich]

Can't accuse him of hiding the quality of his product

[w5pv]

One thing for certain they look like a torn goats rear sewed up with grape vine.

[DeanWinchester]

I would be ashamed if my CULLS looked that bad. I've taken a Lee mold out of the box and not even cleaned it, and made better looking boolits than that. Yikes.

[rattletrap1970]

I have to be honest. My first boolits I ever made looked infinitely better than those.

[375RUGER]

did anyone catch the price?

only because they are unlubed and he hasn't heard about Doe Run yet.

[btroj]

doe run, what's that?

[Crawdaddy]

Not sure you could get those through a sizer much less a barrel.

[tunnug]

I also wounder if he knows he needs a FFL to sell those? (quote)

I don't know about other places but in AZ you don't.

[Epd230]

I don't know about other places but in AZ you don't.

Here we go again!

[smilie=b:

[centershot]

You need an FFL to sell boolits????

[ultramag]

Finally someone posts some pictures of boolits on here that make me feel good about the ones I'm casting. :bigsmyl2:

[willie_pete]

Yes, it's a Federal thing.

WP

[Freightman]

He deactivated it so no problem.

[Artful]

did anyone catch the price?
Yep


I cast lead bullets for reloading. I have them in the following calibers:
9mm 125 grain rn, 124 grain rn, 120 grain trunicated nose $25 per 500
.44 mag 240 grain rn and fn $45 per 500
.40 175 grain trunincated nose $35 per 500
.380 102 grain rn $25 per 500
.357 158 grain rn $30 per 500
.38 125 grain fn $30 per 500
45/70 500 grain pointed tip $55 per 500
.45 230 grain rn $40 per 500
.41 magnum 205 grain fn $40 per 500
If you have a specific caliber let me know and I will see if I can get it for you.
I can ship these for about $6 to $12 in flat rate box.
I accept paypal or uspo money order.
You can email me at REDACTED or text or call me at REDACTED
Thanks

Seems like he's quite the business though

[bhn22]

I need to make sure I do this right, since we've had a rule change...

At least he's not breaking any laws by selling them, since they're demilled. No bumble loob!

Did I get the right shade of purple? How's the font look?

[Artful]

You need an FFL to sell boolits????
http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/general.html


Q: What kinds of ammunition are covered by the GCA?
Ammunition includes cartridge cases, primers, bullets or propellant powder designed for use in any firearm other than an antique firearm.

Items NOT covered include blank ammunition, tear gas ammunition, pellets and nonmetallic shotgun hulls without primers.

Generally, no records are required for ammunition transactions. However, information about the disposition of armor piercing ammunition is required to be entered into a record by importers, manufacturers, and collectors.

A license is not required for dealers in ammunition only.
[18 U.S.C. 921(a)(17) and 922(b)(5), 27 CFR 478.11 and 478.125]


Gun Control Act Definitions

Ammunition

18 U.S.C., § 921(A)(17)(A)

The term “Ammunition” means ammunition or cartridge cases, primers, bullets, or propellant powder designed for use in any firearm.

The term shall not include (a) any shotgun shot or pellet not designed for use as the single, complete projectile load for one shotgun hull or casing, nor (b) any unloaded, non-metallic shotgun hull or casing not having a primer. 27 § 478.11
http://www.atf.gov/files/graphics/firearms/importation-guidebook/gca-ammunition.jpg

Armor piercing ammunition

18 U.S.C., § 921(a)(17)(B)

A projectile or projectile core which may be used in a handgun and which is constructed entirely (excluding the presence of traces of other substances) from one or a combination of tungsten alloys, steel, iron, brass, bronze, beryllium copper, or depleted uranium; or
A full jacketed projectile larger than .22 caliber designed and intended for use in a handgun and whose jacket has a weight of more than 25 percent of the total weight of the projectile.
The term “armor piercing ammunition” does not include shotgun shot required by Federal or State environmental or game regulations for hunting purposes, a frangible projectile designed for target shooting, a projectile which the Attorney General finds is primarily intended to be used for sporting purposes, or any other projectile or projectile core which the Attorney General finds is intended to be used for industrial purposes, including a charge used in an oil and gas well perforating device.

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/guides/importation-verification/firearms-verification-gca-ammunition.html

As the maker, yep, 06 license required.
And you better get good insurance as well.

[Down South]

The guy probably bought a bunch of Lee TL moulds and had at it thinking he was doing a good job without knowing anything about casting.
I would bet that he knows a bit more now.

Did someone mention Doe Run?

[Artful]

OH, and never forget the ATFE lives by it's own rules and regulations subject to change without notice...
here's an example...
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2011/08/robert-farago/atf-raid-elite-ammunition-confiscate-armor-piercing-brass-bullets/

[Epd230]

Maybe he should just call them paperweights!

[sirgknight]

That's one way to get rid of culls.

makes one wonder what his "culls" look like......

[jonp]

Doe Run? I've never heard of that. What is it, a place to set up your stand and what does it have to do with the price of boolits?

[starmac]

Maybe he doesn't worry about having a license, because he doesn't figure anyone will actually consider them boolits. lol

[Bzcraig]

Those were bad and if those in the pic were the best of the bunch, he needs marketing lessons.

[Hamish]

Lord, the whole site is gonna be purple before long,,,,,

[DRNurse1]

I need to make sure I do this right, since we've had a rule change...

At least he's not breaking any laws by selling them, since they're demilled. No bumble loob!

Did I get the right shade of purple? How's the font look?

Is that what purple looks like? Are you saying he is a Bumble? BTW, did anyone send that seller a link to the BATFE rules on ammunition sales?

[MaryB]

I bet a lawsuit recovers the lost monetary damages. They have to publish new rules and have a waiting period for them to go into effect.


OH, and never forget the ATFE lives by it's own rules and regulations subject to change without notice...
here's an example...
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2011/08/robert-farago/atf-raid-elite-ammunition-confiscate-armor-piercing-brass-bullets/

[MtGun44]

I wish that purple color showed up better.

Bill

[btroj]

Is this better?

[Artful]

Is this better?

Not to me - :roll:

[autopilotmp]

But they were shiny! Sometimes that is all that matters.

[cbrick]

Purple? What purple? I don't see any purple.

Rick

[xacex]

Whats Doe Run? :killingpc

[mdi]

Yep, there's one born every minute, someone that'll buy them...

Remember that song in the '60s? Da Doe Run Run?

[d garfield]

He doesn,t need a license to sell bullets.

[Frozone]

Whats Doe Run? :killingpc

about $3 per pound.

or

A lead smelting operation, the recent closure of which has the paranoid claiming will cause a rise in ammo prices.

The song was "Da Doo Run Run" by the Crystals.

[wallenba]

Got to get me some of those!

[Frozone]

He doesn,t need a license to sell bullets.

He doesn't if he bought them from someone else, you don't need a license to Resell bullets.
BUT Because he made them he Does need a 06 FFL to sell what he manufactures.

[sirgknight]

A lead smelting operation, the recently closure of which has the paraniod claiming will cause a rise in ammo prices.

The song was "Da Doo Run Run" by the Crystals.


yep, and La La Brooks was the lead singer for the Crystals.

[danomano]

It's a Sarcasm thing...

[bbqncigars]

I'll give the guy props for good pictures of fugly boolits. Yech!

[303Guy]

Purple? What purple? I don't see any purple.You'd make a good deer stalker - deer can't see purple either.[smilie=1: Actually, they see purple way better than we do, only it looks blue to them.

[ElDorado]

He's not selling bullets. He's selling bullet tips. It says so right in the title. Should be okay, right?

[jeepyj]

Plus one for a good funny thread to start my day. So many good responses I couldn't stop reading even though I'm late for work.
Jeepyj

[Artful]

He doesn,t need a license to sell bullets.

KNOW YOUR LAWS!
See post #26 - Federal Lic requirements for manufacturing for resale.
Then he needs to check state and local requirements as well.

[TheGrimReaper]

WOW!!! Some folks????

[cbrick]

Aw come guys your gonna hurt his feelings, he's obviously proud of them lumps of lead. :shock:

Rick

[Trey45]

In the header of his ad it says the listing has been deactivated by the seller.

[cbrick]

In the header of his ad it says the listing has been deactivated by the seller.

Maybe he reads this forum? :mrgreen:

Rick

[Trey45]

HA! I sure hope he DOES! Maybe he'll learn something.

[Down South]

Maybe he reads this forum? :mrgreen:

Rick
I don't think he was ever here before posting that ad. He may be here now learning something.

[cheetah]

Clearly, those aren't boolits.

[John Boy]

If you have a specific caliber let me know and I will see if I can get it for you.
Real pride in his casting ability!

[cbrick]

Can you imagine hearing of the guy, sending off your money and then . . .

Getting those in the mail? [smilie=1:

Rick

[Bullshop Junior]

Can you imagine hearing of the guy, sending off your money and then . . .

Getting those in the mail? [smilie=1:

Rick

Some people dont know better and may very well be happy with those. At least he had honest marketing photos.

[dverna]

About 40 years ago I bought a few thousand bullets that looked that bad from a guy who had a Magma automatic casting machine in his basement in Hamilton Ontario. They were fine for 50 ft. rapid and timed fire practice.

The house was a disaster and he had young kids breathing in the fumes from that machine. I was appalled people could live like that. I could not afford factory HBWC's for practice and the price for his "junk" bullets was all I could afford. A few months later I bought a 10 cavity H&G and made better bullets from the first half dozen pours.

Don Verna

[Certaindeaf]

People buy boolits?

[Down South]

People buy boolits?
Sure, lots of sites selling them and most are quality. Some may be a bit undersized for our needs but customer demands controls the market.
I bought many of Berry's plated bullets before I started casting. A lot of folks buy cast boolits to shoot cheaper.

[el roboto]

Judging.by how the alloy looks my guess would.be he was casting with pute lead and had no idea what he was doing therefore was unable to get good fillout.

[Frozone]

People buy boolits?


there I fixed that for ya.

[Baryngyl]

Whats Doe Run? :killingpc




Doe run, is a smaller version of passing the buck. :kidding:





Michael Grace

[Jayhawkhuntclub]

While those boolits are less than impressive...:roll: I will say that I am amazed how I've seen boolits that looked like **** that shot great (handgun out to 50 yards). And I've had my share of ones that were works of art that I was never happy with in terms of accuracy. That said, I would pass on this product.

[Jon]

At least the bases look good. Mine keep tearing.

[Frozone]

At least the bases look good. Mine keep tearing.

91406 Look at that base it's Horrible.

If your bases are tearing, try opening the mold a second or 2 later.
A torn base results from the boolit being too soft before you try to extract it from the mold.