2nd annual swaged bullet postal shoot! Everyone welocme!

[BT Sniper]

I know there are quite a few more of you out there this year making your own bullets. Let's have another fun competition!

(Moderators, if we could keep this thread here in the swaging forum, as it pertains to the swaged bullet shooting crowd, I will post a reference in the "our town" forum directing anyone interested here. Thanks)

I welcome everyone and anyone to participate. For those of you that do not swage your own yet or don't have a complete set of dies yet projectiles/bullets are available at no cost in one lot of 50 bullets. Joe Christensen has graciously donated 2 lots of 50 bullets and I will have several packs of bullets to donate soon.


Please let us all know the extent of this up coming years shoot with a simply reply stating you wish to participate. All entries will be allowed up to the date posted for the end of this shoot. You do not have to reply with a "count me in" but it will be fun to know how many we have completing. You can still participate even after the start date has passed so long as you submit your target postmarked on or before last day of shoot.

Start date: January 1st 2014

End date: March 31th 2014

These dates should give you all plenty of opportunity for tuning a good load, making some bullets or holding out for a good weather weekend.

Simple rules here, anything goes so long as the bullet you are shooting is made from 22lr, 22mag or 17 HMR brass.

Scoring will be simple. We are all grouped into the same category, doesn't matter if your shooting a $10K bench gun or $300 wallmart special. We will shoot two 5 shot groups on the target posted below. Both groups will be graded for score and group size. Perfect "score" would be 100 (2 groups of 5 shots each all in the 10 ring). Tie breaker would be the number of "X" rings (the smallest center circle) hit. "Group" score should be pretty self-explanatory, total the group size in inches of both targets combined. Two .25" groups would equal a total group score of .500" simple!

Only one piece of target paper will be submitted for scoring so both your groups must be on the same piece of paper. Targets will be sent to my PO address and must be post marked on or before the last day of shoot. I will post pics of all targets submitted and results for the match. Shooters are encouraged to include as much data as possible regarding the bullets and loads used, example... powder brand, grains, bullet weight, gun, barrel length, twist, fps, scope weather conditions, manufacture of die set, etc. Shooters are also encouraged to post pictures of their progress with target pics.

Remember this is all for fun and seeing just what can be done with home made bullets made from scrap brass. The more pics and info we can gather here the more interesting, exciting and helpful it will be to all of us making our own bullets now or will be in the future!

Simple prizes will be awarded to best groups/scores. A drawing will be held for more substantial items. I'll donate one of my one step dies (40 or 44 caliber winners choice) or $225 "store credit" towards any of my products, to be given away to winner of random drawing, same as last year.

I still have a few of the donated items left over from the last shoot and will be looking for any additional donations for this years shoot. Please post if you have anything you wish to donate for prizes.


Here are the rules of the shoot.

In short this is a compition for any caliber bullet made from 22lr, 22mag or 17HMR cases for jackets using any set of dies.


RULES AND DETAILS

Distance = 100yrds

Caliber = your choice

Fire arm = anything goes, bolt action, varmint/target rigs, hunting riffle, pistol, semi auto, scoped, open sights, All will be clasified into same catigory.

Rests = Sure! The only thing we are grading is the target, feel free to shoot off hand if that is what you shoot best.

Bullet/projectile = has to be swaged using 22lr/22mag/17hmr cases for jackets. Jackets can be trimmed. Any weight or style bullet is good to go. No commercial jackets or bullets or bullets made from jackets drawn from copper strip or cups. . Can be bullets you made or made by others. Can be made from any set of dies you wish. For those that do not swage bullets yet, simply post your interest here and we will figure out how to get you some bullets to load. Swagers are not allowed to profit from this fun shoot by attempting to sell bullets they made unless they have legal FFL-06 licence. Shooters are responsable for the safty of the loaded round. No liability should fall on the swager that made the projectiles.

Loaded ammo = Obviously has to be reloaded and not necessarily by the shooter. No factory ammo.

Eligibility = anyone can send in target. Encourage relitives, spose, friends, the more the better.

Target =You can simply print the target pictured below from the following link. The target is located about half way down the page. Make sure you are using the same target as pictured below with 2 targets on same page!http://www.accurateshooter.com/shooting-skills/targets/

Consider the .5" target the X ring and the 1" circle the 10 ring and so on.

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I will have a transparent overlay of the outer rings that are covered by the bold square so accurate scoring can be determined.


Let me know if you guys have any questions or concerns. You all have 3 months to turn in a target. Might sound like a long time but I remember the last shoot went by pretty quickly. Please let us all know if you wish to participate and pass on the invite to anyone you might think would like to participate. I'll be turning in a target for certain yet I'll consider myself ineligible for the awards.

Good shooting and swage on!

Brian

[BT Sniper]

This will give you an idea of scoring for these targets. I simply imposed the X and numbers to the target on the left. The target on the right is how it appears after printing from the site. You can pencil the X and numbers into your target if you wish.

If a bullet "breaks" the line of the target the higher score is awarded.

One more thing NO SIGHTERS all holes in paper will be scored. There should be no more then ten bullet holes in the entire piece of paper! There should be no less then 10 holes (obviously small groups have the potential of putting bullets threw same hole, this will be obvious in the small nature of the size of the group) unless you wish to submit a target in which you had one bullet miss target all together (a target submitted with less then 10 holes, an obvious miss, will add 11" to your total group size per missed shot. That brings up an interesting potential..... if a bullet comes apart before reaching the target..... So long as there is no evidence of "shrapnel" hitting the target go ahead and shoot again. No one will know anyways, but if you have small shrapnel holes in your target from a bullet blowing up before it reaches the target then your target is void! This is a pretty far stretch of odds here but I have seen it happen where a bullet comes apart before reaching the target and it "peppers" the target with very small holes. This should challenge the shooter to fine tune his loads to prevent bullets from coming apart before they reach the target.

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[BT Sniper]

LIST OF SHOOTERS

Those that have posted with an "I'm in" and those that I think might be interested. Last year we had 10 shooters take part. I know there are a lot more of you this year making these bullets. I hope we can get a few more of you to send in targets for us this year.

Confirmed!

0. Myself, I'll post plenty of targets but be ineligible for prizes
1. Lizard 333
2. MOcaster
3. nhrifle
4. Joe
5. kweidner
6. clodhopper
7. Gunnut 45/454
8. Nickle
9. OC (local friend of mine)
10. dagunnut
11. Bill Weddle (in need of some bullets) Contact member "Joe Christensen" for a 50 pack of bullets
12. newcastter
13. squirrel hollow
14. anotherred (in need of bullets) Contact member "Joe Christensen" for a 50 pack of bullets
15. ronaldod
16. plus1hdcp
17. Supe47
18. Flamethrower (in need of bullets) Contact member "NHRifle" for a 50 pack of bullets
19. Monmouth (bullets received)
20. IllinoisCoyoteHunter
21. Hickory
22. bullet maker 57
23. FWest
24. JonB_in_Glencoe
25. ButterNutZ (bullets received)
26. Cag40Navy (in need of bullets) Contact member "bullet maker 57" for a 50 pack of bullets
27. Buggybuilder (in need of bullets) Contact member "bullet maker 57" for a 50 pack of bullets
28. TBird1960
29. Djones (in need of bullets) Contact member "mustang" for one 50 count bag of bullets
30. scootshop
31. muddy
32. algunjunkie
33. Sitzme

Bullet contributors

Shooters that do not make their own should receive one pack of 50 bullets. If they wish to contribute to shipping...that's OK, if they wish to send the maker a few pieces of brass in trade ..... OK, but no money for bullets. It is strictly the generosity of the bullet maker that wishes to contribute a few bullets to shooters and bragging right should that shooter do well with the bullets offered.

Joe Christensen (2 boxes of 50) Thank you!
Myself (as many as needed)
NHRifle (1 box of 50) Thank You!
Bulletmaker 57 (2 boxes of 50) Thank You!
Mustang (1 box of 50) Thank You!



Donated prize list!

top place finishers will get their choice of offered products below

#1- small flat rate box of clean 22lr brass. I'll donate

#2- small Flat Rate Box (SFRB) of processed ready to load 223rem brass. I'll donate

#3- 5 stick lot of TAC#1 bullet lube stick donated by Randyrat, Thank You! left over from last years shoot.

#4- small flat rate box of new brass. Many calibers to choose from. Thank you Nickel.

#5- 1 unopened box of Hornady .224" 35gr V-Max bullets. 100ct. Thank you Flamethrower

#6- 50 repackaged .224" 90gr Sierra Match Kings. Thank you Flamethrower

#7- 50 bullets or jacket in any caliber he makes. Thank you Bullet Maker 57

#8- 2 boxes of bullets of shooters choice. Thank you IllinoisCoyoteHunter

#9- SFRB of 223 brass and SFRB of lead ingots. Thank you Vendor Sponsor TheCaptain (great place for all your lead and brass needs!) http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?63886-Lead-Ingots-For-Sale-Buyer-s-Choice

#10- Medium flat rate box of 22lr brass! Thank you Vendor Sponsor ALFloyd (Lead wire, 22 lr brass, swage dies and many more useful swaging tools) http://castboolits.gunloads.com/forumdisplay.php?126-A-L-Floyd-Swaging

#11- 2,000 aluminum gas checks. Thank you vendor sponsor 338RumUltraMag. (Gas checks and brass cleaning service ONLY 60 CENTS/ LB! http://castboolits.gunloads.com/forumdisplay.php?175-338RUM-s-Aluminum-Checks

#12-custom roller handle for reloading press of your choice form those he has to offer. Thank you Vendor Sponsor Redneck Machining (kyle623) http://castboolits.gunloads.com/forumdisplay.php?183-Redneck-Machining-(Kyle623)

#13 300 pack of hand cast Keith bullets your choice of, 41, 44 or 45. Thank you Vendor Sponsor Dry Creek Bullet Works! http://castboolits.gunloads.com/forumdisplay.php?119-Dry-Creek-Bullet-Works

#14 stick lube or a bottle of 45-45-10 or something similar. I need to contact for details. Thank you Vendor Sponsor LAR45 http://castboolits.gunloads.com/forumdisplay.php?120-Lar45

#15 Five "Bin Barriers, http://inlinefabrication.com/collections/press-accessories/products/bin-barriers . Thank You Vendor Sponsor "1in9twist" http://castboolits.gunloads.com/forumdisplay.php?139-Inline-Fabrication

Looking for others that might wish to donate a simple price to the list. Simply post in this thread or PM me and I'll add it to the list.

Winner of each category will be given opportunity to choose prize from list of those available posted below. Top shooter will chose first and so on down the list. Order will be as follows

-1st place total group size
-1st place total score
-2nd place total group size
-2nd place total score

and so on! Figure pay out as many finishers as possible for the prizes donated. If one shooter should place both group and score that shooter will choose only one prize instead of two.

If there are more prizes then entries, prizes will carry over to next months postal shoot.

Winners will get to choose their prize from those listed below.




Drawing

We now have three substantial prizes for the drawing. This means three lucky competitors will win one of these great prizes no matter their results of the shoot!

All that send in a target are eligible for the drawing.

First chosen winner of drawing gets choice between my die set (or store credit) and this new prize. Second winner of the drawing will get whichever one is left.

Our local vendor sponsor "BetterNutZ" of CompeteCast inc. has offered one of his very cool looking digital lead pot temperature controllers. This is a $185 value! Wish I was eligible for this one.

Check it out!

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?221976-CompeteCast-PID-temperature-controller


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Our local vendor "1in9twist" of Inline Fabrication inc. has donated a cool "ultra mount" available to fit several different presses. http://inlinefabrication.com/collections/ultramounts Check his site for many more very cool products!

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/BTSniper/ultramount_zpsac96a0d2.png (http://s636.photobucket.com/user/BTSniper/media/ultramount_zpsac96a0d2.png.html)



BTSniper improved CH40 cal one step die or $225 "BTSniper store credit" donated by myself to be auctioned off in a drawing to all that send in a target.

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[Lizard333]

Put me on the list. So, basically same rules as last year, only no closet to center target.

[MOcaster]

I'm in!

[nhrifle]

I'll be sending a target.

[BT Sniper]

Put me on the list. So, basically same rules as last year, only no closet to center target.

Yes but we added the "score" to this years shoot. Both targets will be judged for smallest group and best score. Perfect score is 100 and I bet we get some combined groups approaching under 1". Different target this year too.

BT

[Utah Shooter]

I would like to pre donate 2 lots of 50 ea. to someone that does not have the dies capable of making projectiles. It will take me til the new year to make them but I will get around to them.

[BT Sniper]

Way to step up Joe! Thanks! Certainly if there is anyone wishing to participate but doesn't have any of these bullets simply make a post here and I'm sure one of us will be able to take care of you.

BT

[kweidner]

I'm in too. annealing jackets now!

[clodhopper]

I'm in too. Did a little testing today and was able to make a group under two minutes.
Not to bad for starting with a clean barrel, no fouling shot, and ten rounds each with a different charge of powder.
Had to slow it down.

[Gunnut 45/454]

Well heck your going to force me to use the Savage with those small targets! Or I'm going have stick the 12x on the PSA! The 4x on the 1:9" will not cut it!:roll:

[Nickle]

I'm in.

I feel my rifles give me an unfair advantage, so I won't be in for any prizes. Bragging rights alone is good enough for me.

That keeps it fair for the rest of you.

And, Gunnut, you'll want that Savage.

Here's some of the better rifles in the stable.

91446

[Utah Shooter]

Nickle, just shoot your best rifle. If you take top honors take the prize as well. I think that you may just be underestimating some of the bullets makers here.

If you feel so bad about taking a prize please feel free to put up a donation yourself.

[Nickle]

Joe, it isn't an issue of bullet making. Hell, I KNOW some of them are better than me.

Few come up to my experience making ammo, but heck, most people didn't know that.

Am I THAT good? No, I don't think so. But, I am for sure better than average. Don't believe me. Others know this. I'm not bragging, no sir. But, I do know what my experience is. And, I do know what the rifles I have are capable of.

And, Joe, you just might be underestimating me.

Trying to shame me doesn't work either. Takes a big ego to get goaded into it. I don't have a big ego.

Putting up a donation is fair, though. I'm retired, but I think I can afford something. What would be good? New brass?

[BT Sniper]

One of the reasons I host these shoots is for us to show others the potential of these home made bullets we make from scrap 22lr brass. There are many shooters out there skeptical of the potential accuracy that can be obtained from our "scrap" bullets. I wish to show them that these bullets we make from 22lr brass is every bit as capable of the accuracy they are used to seeing from commercial bullets.

I say bring on your best rigs. Doesn't matter the cost high or low, doesn't matter the shooter's reputation, doesn't matter previous shooting matches won or lost, I want to show everyone that these bullets are capable of some very good accuracy and for the person capable of shooting these bullets under .5 MOA and approaching .25 or better I say you have made some darn good bullets from this "scrap brass." I'm sure everyone will be more then happy to see that person take home a simple prize.

Prizes for winners are simple. Last year we had Small flat rate boxes of 22lr brass offered, $25, small flat rate box of 223 brass, small box of lead, etc. simple stuff kept under or around $25 in value I guess.


I'll post an offered prize list on the third post of this thread as well as a list of those interested.

In my opinion I feel we are testing these bullets just as much if not more then the gun or shooter. We had two groups posted last year that went .5 or less. I welcome all shooters be it small or large groups, I would love to see two 5 shot groups both under .5 or approaching .25.

I don't have any "benchrest" guns but I am putting a 223rem together on a savage action with a Pac-nor 3 groove I have yet to try out. Should be about 18-20lbs when I get her all together. I feel my stock Savage model 12 is capable of great groups if I do my part. Even got a 6mmBR with a Shilen barrel on it that I have some bullets loaded up made from 17 HMR brass. Should be plenty of competition yet still have a lot of fun. I say bring on the small groups, show everyone what these bullets can do or just have fun shooting and post some targets for us all to enjoy.

Good shooting and swage on!

BT

[Gunnut 45/454]

Nickle
Now I wouldn't want to make you feel bad cause your heavy barrel guns didn't cut it and my cheap little Savage Hunter out shot your high priced target guns![smilie=1: :Fire: Any of those under 10 lbs!:wink: I don't want you complaining that you through out your back lugging them to the range!:-D

[BT Sniper]

Love the Savages! I say go for it! Whatever you guys got, shoot it! We can post gun "data" next to your entry name or you can post it on your target with the rest of your data when you send it in.

I know a lot of people will enjoy watching the results.

Good shooting!

BT

[BT Sniper]

I updated post #3 of this thread to include prizes, drawings and list of those shooters interested. Remember you can sign up whenever you want up to the last day to participate in this postal shoot. Simply reply in this thread with an "I'm in!"

[clodhopper]

Prize donation.
I have a small flat rate box of fish shape, soft lead ingots.
The lead in these ingots is composed of flashing and pipe with the solder joints cut out, and used .177 air rifle pellets.
I will only pay to ship it in the United States.

[Hickory]

Count me in.

[Nickle]

Nickle
Now I wouldn't want to make you feel bad cause your heavy barrel guns didn't cut it and my cheap little Savage Hunter out shot your high priced target guns![smilie=1: :Fire: Any of those under 10 lbs!:wink: I don't want you complaining that you through out your back lugging them to the range!:-D

It's possible you could, just not overly likely. 2 of those rifles weigh just a couple of ounces short of 10 pounds (Hunter and Varmint Hunter class, far right 2), Remington 700 and 722. One weighs a hair under 10 1/2 pounds (Light Varmint class, 2nd from left), Remington 40X action. The big one on the left weighs about 30 pounds (Heavy Bench class), Remington 722. The other 2 are in the 13 1/2 pound class (Heavy Varmint), sleeved Remington 700s. The 2 Heavy Varmint rifles are getting retired from my use, getting passed on to family members to start them out. Replacing them with rifles getting built, one will use a Hart A10 action, the other a Remington 40X.

I came fairly close to breaking a record at 200 with that Light Varmint rifle about 25 years ago, at a match, group was .204", and wasn't the best one shot that match either. It had a different barrel and scope then, it was a 22 PPC. It's a 222 Rem now. And that is probably the rifle I will use. Shoots under .25" groups at 100 quite routinely.

Beat me with a factory rifle, even a factory varmint rifle, two things will happen. First, I'll congratulate you for having done it. Second, I'll invite you to come join me at shoots. IBS has a somewhat informal class for factory rifles. But, if you seriously beat me and that rifle, and it isn't a fluke, you ought to be good enough to shoot Hunter or Varmint Hunter competition with it, and do well.

[Nickle]

BT, I'll donate a small flat rate box of new brass. Many choices of calibers, so best I can say is the winner's choice, if available, or an acceptable substitute of an available one. Probably worth a bit more than $25, but I don't care.

I say if available, as I have it here and now.

[BT Sniper]

Thanks Nickle, I'll add it to the list.

[dagunnut]

Count me in as well, please.

Thanks
Mario
dagunnut

[BT Sniper]

Welcome! No need to buy the bullets. Simply post a request here "I'm in" and that you are in need of some bullets to shoot in the match and we will provide you with some. Typically I send 50 bullets out to those that wish to participate but do not make their own.

To those swagers that are able to provide a few bullets simply let us know or contact those in need. No money is to change hands unless seller/swager has FFL-06 license. Those that contribute bullets for the shoot are doing so to promote the growth of our sport and many thanks go out to those of you offering up a few bullets to those that wish to participate.

It can be very gratifying to the swager when another shoots well with bullets he made.

I have 1,000 of our 22 cal swaged bullets on the way to shoot myself or distribute to those that wish to participate. I expect them at my door by middle of January. I'll ship them out in 50 bullet packs to anyone that wishes to participate in this postal shoot. I don't get much time anymore to make my own. These 1,000 bullets are being provided to me from a customer with my die set. He is starting up a bullet business. Here is a shameless plug for his business.

https://www.facebook.com/CloverLeafShootingSupply


Thanks

Brian

[Lizard333]

For those of you that think your rifles are "too nice", the challenge is not in the rifle. Making bullets from spent 22LR brass that are capable of sub MOA accuracy is the challenge. This is were the rubber meets the road. I was using a rifle capable of 1/10th MOA accuracy using commercial jackets, but had trouble getting the bullets made from 22LR brass to group much better than an inch. The closest to center shot was really interesting.

Lets see what you guys have.

[Gunnut 45/454]

Nickles
Well here is just a taste. I just through some loads together just to see what my 55grs and the Savage could do- first target on the left shot just before the wind went stupid - and I mean stupid gusting from 30 mph first from the left then from the right! Yea it push the one shot all the way into first target. Just shot off sand bags on the tailgate. I'll do prone when it dry's up some- kinda swampy around here right now. Now I need to go and make some match grade rounds enough foolin a about! :-D91487

[BT Sniper]

Good start. Thanks for posting pic of this years target. Keep at it! Start date is approaching.

BT

[newcastter]

I plan in posting a target on this shoot.

[anotherred]

Brian, I'm in. But since I'm still in the middle of the list for the dies, so I'll have to take you up on a small pile of them bullets. No fancy rifle here, so everyone here can see what an average joe can do. Hopefully its not too embarrassing compared to others.

[ronaldod]

I'm in.
Just not for the prices as most are not allowed to be send abroad.

[BT Sniper]

Put together a 223rem on a savage action, threaded a Pac-nor 3 groove barrel on it and took it out today to see if it will shoot. Bought the barrel used and was told it has 1800+ rounds threw it. Looking threw the barrel the first 1/4" - 1/2" of the lands are worn flat. I put my tried and true load of a 52 grain Sierra Match King loaded with 27 grains of H-335 and a Wolf 223 primer, I know commercial bullets....me! it is my "control" load for which I judge my home made bullets against.

Backed up to 100 yrds, got it sighted in and put 5 rounds into our official postal shoot target.... I would say she still has some life in her!

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BT

For scoring figures that would be a 49 1X and group was about .4". I settled in behind the gun and the last three shots went into that hole at 9 o-clock. I'll keep the small neon stickers off my official targets. Now that I know the gun can shoot I'll be putting some of my swaged bullets threw her very soon! I'm curious to see if the 3 groove lands will be easier on our fragle bullets vs conventional 4 or 6 groove barrels.

Only 3 more days till start of shoot!

BT

[BT Sniper]

Here was a group I shot today from a Savage 22-250 12 twist loaded with 35 grains of RL-15 and my home made 52 grain rebated boat tail bullets. This load shows some potential. The far bullet hole to the right was a little interesting, it showed signs of expansion (?) or smoke, lead splatter on the paper? Maybe it just hit a hard spot on the plywood backstop? anyway the other 4 went under 1" I'll have to adjust the scope but for scoring practice this one group would have scored 29

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52 grain Sierra Match king next to my 52 grain rebated boat tail bullets. Notice the 9s ogive of my bullets, 6s may work better with boat tails and the short 22lr jacket.
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[IllinoisCoyoteHunter]

I'm in for sure!!!

...but only if you guys promise not to laugh at my targets... :drinks:

[R.Ph. 380]

OK, not going to compete this year, but will try to come up with the right barrel and bullets next year if I ever hear from U.P. North about my press he's building..

Bill

[BT Sniper]

I'm in for sure!!!

...but only if you guys promise not to laugh at my targets... :drinks:

all targets are good! Especially since everyone that submits one is eligible for the grand prize drawing!

BT

[Nickle]

I'm in for sure!!!

...but only if you guys promise not to laugh at my targets... :drinks:

I can assure you it won't be me that laughs.

Hey, I'm in it for the fun, not the prizes.

And, BT, any ideas on what caliber brass I should provide?

I intend it to be new brass, I have a fair amount on hand, various calibers. So, a list might be in order. Or, I could give a choice of a few calibers.

[BT Sniper]

a choice to the winner would probably be good, otherwise I would suggest something in 22 cal :) probably 223 rem as it seems most of use are shooting 223s. Up to you, your donation and participation is much appreciated.

BT

[Nickle]

Good idea. Sadly, I have no new 223 on hand. I do other calibers.

So, choice of caliber, within a few .224 calibers it shall be.

222 Rem, 222 Rem Mag and 22-250 are definitely 3. Got some other calibers, but not enough quantity to be worth it.

[BT Sniper]

There are some pretty capable shooters here. Look forward to seeing what you guys can do this year. Check out some of last years targets.

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[Gunnut 45/454]

BT
I might have to try that CFE223 powder. Seen some great groups of folks that use it. Went on the powder search today still very hard to find any at a decent price -getting low on Benchmark!

[BT Sniper]

Yeah I have been tempted to try the CFE 223 too but figure I'll stick with the H-335 a bit longer. Those two targets above where not mine :) though I have high expectations from those shooters the targets do belong too.

I do plan to try some Viht-133 though.

BT

[plus1hdcp]

Hello Brian, please add me to the list.

[BT Sniper]

Will do!

[supe47]

supe47 Yup, he's in. Add me, please.

[BT Sniper]

17 shooters so far. Looking good! Remember, anyone can enter at anytime, even after the match begins on the 1st.

BT

[Flamethrower]

I would like to give this a go. I would need bullets however.

I would also like to donate 2 prizes if I could. Or make it one prize. Whatever you see fit to do.

1 unopened box of Hornady .224" 35gr V-Max bullets. 100ct
50 repackaged .224" 90gr Sierra Match Kings.

[monmouth]

I'm in, but I need bullets please. I can pay for shipping and would like to hop on this right away (my scoped ar15 that shot the group in my avatar is sold and new rifle only has irons).

[BT Sniper]

We'll get you all in need some bullets right quick. I just made some 9s ogive bullets. I got some 6s ogive bullets coming in next couple weeks.

That is a pretty impressive group in your avatar! Hope you got a pretty penny for that AR!

BT

[BT Sniper]

21 confirmed shooters! Looking good so far! Did I miss anyone up to this point?

A bit shy on donated prizes, I'll try to track down some more. Thank you to those of you that have donated.

It is GAME ON!

Good shooting!

BT

[bullet maker 57]

I'm In. I can send bullets to any body that needs them. Just let me know who needs or wants 22 cal bullets. I will donate 50 bullets or jackets in any caliber I make.
Bullets-224, 243, 264, 277, 284. 308
Jackets-172, 204, 224, 243, 257, 264, 277, 284, 308, short 338
Pete

[FWest]

Make it 22, I will play again.

Thanks

[IllinoisCoyoteHunter]

BT, I have a couple thousand Jacketed bullets in various flavors. I will donate 2 boxes of winner's choice.

[BT Sniper]

You guys are awesome! up to 23 shooters now and more prize donations.

Good shooting

BT

[BT Sniper]

Check out the donated prizes we have gathered so far! Much thanks to those of you that offered something. Also be sure to check out our own vendors that donated some items!

So far with prizes donated we will be able to pay out top five positions for both "group size" and "score." That is 10 prizes minimum so far. I'll continue to add to the list as more prizes are donated. Remember only one prize per winner. Should one shooter place in top 5 for both group and score that shooter will choose only one prize, the additional prize will allow the next place finisher to collect a prize.

Donated prize list!

top place finishers will get their choice of offered products below

#1- small flat rate box of clean 22lr brass. I'll donate

#2- small Flat Rate Box (SFRB) of processed ready to load 223rem brass. I'll donate

#3- 5 stick lot of TAC#1 bullet lube stick donated by Randyrat, Thank You! left over from last years shoot.

#4- small flat rate box of new brass. Many calibers to choose from. Thank you Nickel.

#5- 1 unopened box of Hornady .224" 35gr V-Max bullets. 100ct. Thank you Flamethrower

#6- 50 repackaged .224" 90gr Sierra Match Kings. Thank you Flamethrower

#7- 50 bullets or jacket in any caliber he makes. Thank you Bullet Maker 57

#8- 2 boxes of bullets of shooters choice. Thank you IllinoisCoyoteHunter

#9- SFRB of 223 brass and SFRB of lead ingots. Thank you Vendor Sponsor "TheCaptain" (great place for all your lead and brass needs!) http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?63886-Lead-Ingots-For-Sale-Buyer-s-Choice

#10- Medium flat rate box of 22lr brass! Thank you Vendor Sponsor "ALFloyd" (Lead wire, 22 lr brass, swage dies and many more useful swaging tools) http://castboolits.gunloads.com/forumdisplay.php?126-A-L-Floyd-Swaging

#11- 2,000 aluminum gas checks. Thank you vendor sponsor "338RumUltraMag". (Gas checks and brass cleaning service ONLY 60 CENTS/ LB! http://castboolits.gunloads.com/forumdisplay.php?175-338RUM-s-Aluminum-Checks

#12-custom roller handle for reloading press of your choice form those he has to offer. Thank you Vendor Sponsor "Redneck Machining" (kyle623) http://castboolits.gunloads.com/forumdisplay.php?183-Redneck-Machining-(Kyle623)

[JonB_in_Glencoe]

I'm in
Jon

[RED333]

Nob questions
So we can only shoot 22 caliber rifle?
I have been making 44 caliber out of 40 S&W, does these count?
What range?

[BT Sniper]

Nob questions
So we can only shoot 22 caliber rifle?
I have been making 44 caliber out of 40 S&W, does these count?
What range?


Any caliber rifle, or pistol for that matter, so long as the bullet is made from 22lr, 22mag or 17 HMR brass

Here is what I put down in post #1 of this thread. In the future I may host a pistol caliber shoot for the bigger 40s, 44s, 45s and other various calibers made from brass cases.

Here are the rules of this postal shoot.

In short this is a compition for any caliber bullet made from 22lr, 22mag or 17HMR cases for jackets using any set of dies.


RULES AND DETAILS

Distance = 100yrds

Caliber = your choice

Fire arm = anything goes, bolt action, varmint/target rigs, hunting riffle, pistol, semi auto, scoped, open sights, All will be clasified into same catigory.

Rests = Sure! The only thing we are grading is the target, feel free to shoot off hand if that is what you shoot best.

Bullet/projectile = has to be swaged using 22lr/22mag/17hmr cases for jackets. Jackets can be trimmed. Any weight or style bullet is good to go. No commercial jackets or bullets or bullets made from jackets drawn from copper strip or cups. . Can be bullets you made or made by others. Can be made from any set of dies you wish. For those that do not swage bullets yet, simply post your interest here and we will figure out how to get you some bullets to load. Swagers are not allowed to profit from this fun shoot by attempting to sell bullets they made unless they have legal FFL-06 licence. Shooters are responsable for the safty of the loaded round. No liability should fall on the swager that made the projectiles.

Loaded ammo = Obviously has to be reloaded and not necessarily by the shooter. No factory ammo.

Eligibility = anyone can send in target. Encourage relitives, spose, friends, the more the better.

Target =You can simply print the target pictured below from the following link. The target is located about half way down the page. Make sure you are using the same target as pictured below with 2 targets on same page!http://www.accurateshooter.com/shooting-skills/targets/

Consider the .5" target the X ring and the 1" circle the 10 ring and so on.

[BT Sniper]

Actually went out and shot today. Trying to find a good load. 100 yrd shooting spot was occupied so I moved to my 200 yrds spot.

well.... I got some good practice in today :) Need more practice. I was able to put 4 out of 5 under 1 moa with most groups. I'll keep working on it.

Good shooting!

BT

p.s. Jon, I added you to the list. Do you need some bullets?

[nhrifle]

Brian, I have a bag of bullets I can donate for shooters in need of some for the shoot. Should I send them to you or directly to the shooter?

BTW, I am having a ball with your dies! Lots of stuff to experiment with which is great during the cold months.

[BT Sniper]

We have another substantial prize donation! I will add this one to the "drawing." First winner of drawing gets choice between my die set (or store credit) and this new prize. Second winner of the drawing will get whichever one is left.

Our local vendor sponsor "BetterNutZ" of CompeteCast inc. has offered one of his very cool looking digital lead pot temperature controllers. This is a $185 value! Wish I was eligible for this one.

Check it out!

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?221976-CompeteCast-PID-temperature-controller


http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/BTSniper/leadpotcontroler_zps233e51ca.png (http://s636.photobucket.com/user/BTSniper/media/leadpotcontroler_zps233e51ca.png.html)


http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/BTSniper/leadpot2_zpsb9bcae61.png (http://s636.photobucket.com/user/BTSniper/media/leadpot2_zpsb9bcae61.png.html)

[RED333]

Thanks for the answer, I dont have a rifle to shoot a 22 caliber swedge boolit.
Al I have is 10/22s, looks like I need a new rifle. LOL
OH wait, any body have any thing for a 7mm or 7.62 (.308)?

[BT Sniper]

I've heard of swagers taking the 22mag case all the up to 7mm for jackets but don't know if anyone has any to offer?

BT

[supe47]

Nice PID. I have one just like it and love it. Keeps lead within a couple degrees. Nice prize. An extra temp probe works great for cookin' turkeys.

[Cag40Navy]

I would be interested in getting in on this... How long do we have to post targets and is it possible to get a small lot of bullets? Am I to late?

[BT Sniper]

No one is "too late" not till April 1st anyway. The deadline for participating in this shoot is March 31st.

Yes we have a couple members here (myself included) that are able to provide shooters with one pack of 50 of these bullets made from 22lr brass (projectiles not loaded rounds).

For anyone that wishes to participate simply state your request with a reply in this thread of "I'm in" or similar and that you require some bullets. Do also review the first three posts of this thread for all the details.

I'll sign you up and get you on the list to receive some bullets.

BT

[Cag40Navy]

Im in then. But ill need some homemade bullets....

[JonB_in_Glencoe]

Actually went out and shot today. Trying to find a good load. 100 yrd shooting spot was occupied so I moved to my 200 yrds spot.

well.... I got some good practice in today :) Need more practice. I was able to put 4 out of 5 under 1 moa with most groups. I'll keep working on it.

Good shooting!

BT

p.s. Jon, I added you to the list. Do you need some bullets?

I don't need any 22 projectiles.
besides the leftovers (about 50) I received from you last year, I did a trade with "MUSTANG", My 32acp brass for some his 60 gr Home swaged 22's
I'm actually looking forward to see what my CZ will do with a 60gr. Jword.

BUT, I will add...
If someone swages any 243,
I'd love to try some of those, around 90gr.
I have a heavy Custom Mauser Benchrest gun...which has a long leade, so I need a heavy bullet...it's a tack driver with most commercial jwords.
Jon

[Nickle]

I have a heavy Custom Mauser Benchrest gun...which has a long leade, so I need a heavy bullet...it's a tack driver with most commercial jwords.
Jon

Nice. Now I might have another good run for the goal.

If I were set up right now to do 6mm bullets, I would hook you up. Sadly, I'm not.

[Randy C]

I will let you know if I have time to play later. I will have to see if I have enough brass to make some 6mm I need about 95gr for my gun. I have not taken the time to learn my press and dies like I should. I enjoy seeing everybody's progress.
:coffeecom

[Randy C]

JohB in Glencoe
I have not had time to get good at making 6mm bullets with my dies if I get the time I will let you know there are several others here that use 6mm dies they have helped me out more than once.
Randy C

[BT Sniper]

Spent the last three days behind the press and out at the range. I got to admit this postal shoot has gotten me out of the house and having fun shooting when I would typically be inside.

Here are a couple targets to give you guys and idea of how we are scoring the shoot this year.

Of course as I have mentioned we are scoring targets for both "group" size and "score."

Here is a look at the standard target. I added the numbers to give you all an idea for the "score"

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/BTSniper/ef273fbd-4372-40dd-a2d8-35c1550c0ad2_zps34660ef9.png (http://s636.photobucket.com/user/BTSniper/media/ef273fbd-4372-40dd-a2d8-35c1550c0ad2_zps34660ef9.png.html)


here is a target I shot that has a fairly good score yet "challenged" group size. Total score for both targets was 90 points with 1X and total group size for both targets was 3.100"
http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/BTSniper/012_zps46ee7f6a.jpg (http://s636.photobucket.com/user/BTSniper/media/012_zps46ee7f6a.jpg.html)


and here is a target with great total group size yet challenged total score. Total group size was 1.499" while total score was 74.

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/BTSniper/400d24f8-3158-4c73-a10b-1a6ae1e087e3_zpsdd618395.jpg (http://s636.photobucket.com/user/BTSniper/media/400d24f8-3158-4c73-a10b-1a6ae1e087e3_zpsdd618395.jpg.html)


Here is another target with a pretty good score yet 2 "fliers" in each target opened the group size up A LOT! Score was 86 5X with a less then stellar 4.791 group size

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/BTSniper/011_zps674bb4ff.jpg (http://s636.photobucket.com/user/BTSniper/media/011_zps674bb4ff.jpg.html)

[buggybuilder1]

I am in, if anyone is making 243's and is willing to donate. I just started making .223 admittedly I have a lot of work todo but I will put them out there and see if I can group at all. Looking forward to the comradery of this forum, thanks for the opertunaty.

[SquirrelHollow]

Just figured I'd chime in...
I'm interested, and will try to get some bullets on paper. I just haven't committed, since I still haven't shot BT's 6mm projectiles from LAST year's shoot. :roll:
...and my availability now is worse than it was then.

Just to give you an idea of where I'm at...
In 2013, I cast 0 bullets, swaged 0 bullets, loaded 0 centerfire cartridges (after the failed trip to shoot the 6mms), only took rimfires on the 3 opportunities I had to shoot, and had to dig my dies out of a box and go to a relative's house to load up 8 .444-410 shotshells (and I cut up factory .410 shotshells to do it :().


When I do get a chance to shoot, I'll probably also have an "illegal" .44 caliber submission ... for the fun of it.

[plus1hdcp]

BT, do we send the official target to you for scoring and posting? I shot today for the first time in a while, the wind was down a bit. Not a very good target but it will be an entry.

[Gunnut 45/454]

BT
Hey run my target just for ****s a giggles to see how it scored!

[newcastter]

BT
Hey run my target just for ****s a giggles to see how it scored!
Now I am just jealous you got the word **** posted without looking like ****.
If mine shows up it must be a glich in the new server...SSSHHHHH don't say anything.
Also would like to see your target, I will shoot one soon I hope.

[newcastter]

Didn't work for me although I am heavily watched....or it could be the S on the end.

[tbird1960]

Count me in.

[BT Sniper]

BT, do we send the official target to you for scoring and posting? I shot today for the first time in a while, the wind was down a bit. Not a very good target but it will be an entry.

When you feel you have shot your best target that you wish to enter for your official score you can send it to my address. I only wish to receive one target per shooter so if you send me one this early in the match it must be pretty good :) Feel free to post pics of "progress" targets if you wish.

BT

[BT Sniper]

Things are looking good. I think list of shooters is current for everyone that has posted with conformation. If I missed anyone let me know.

28 confirmed shooters
14 donated prizes
2 drawings

Much thanks to those that have donated prizes and bullets. Do be sure to check out the vendors page for all those that contributed.

It's going to be a heck of a good time!

All shooters in need of bullets have been assigned a supplier. Please contact that member for your one 50 count pack of bullets. Shooters, make the supplier of your bullets proud! Thank you to those of you donating the bullets. Try to get them out to the shooters as soon as possible.

Good shooting!

Brian

[1in9twist]

Happy to have contributed to the prize table, great group of folks here. Good luck to everyone! 8-)

[BT Sniper]

YEP! 1-9twist has a pretty cool prize donation. Thank You! I'll have details up soon.

BT

[Djones]

I would be interested in shooting but I have never swaged a jacketed bullet. If anyone would like to send me a pack of their 22 cal home swaged bullets I could trade you some of my cast bullets or some brass.

PM me if you are interested. Thanks!

David

[MUSTANG]

Djones:

I'll send you a PM. I can provide some 60Gr.

[ButterNutZ]

Happy to contribute to the prize list. Received bullets from BT Sniper and they look as good or better than store bought! Will try to get a load worked up this weekend and share my results.

[BT Sniper]

Djones has been added to list and note was made to "mustang's" offered donation of 50 bullets. Thanks Mustang!

[BT Sniper]

We are up to 15 donated prizes and an additional prize for the drawing. There are now three prizes for the drawing which will get a prize to three shooters no matter what their score.

Be sure to check out the first three posts of this thread for all details and be sure to check out vendor's pages for all those gracious enough to donate prizes for our shoot.

Check out the latest donated prize for the drawing.

Our local vendor 1in9 twist http://castboolits.gunloads.com/forumdisplay.php?139-Inline-Fabrication has donated a great looking mount for our reloading presses. Mount is available for many different presses!

Check out all his cool stuff! http://inlinefabrication.com/

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/BTSniper/ultramount_zpsac96a0d2.png (http://s636.photobucket.com/user/BTSniper/media/ultramount_zpsac96a0d2.png.html)

[Gunnut 45/454]

Well shot my first target today. Not bad considering I had a fair amount of wind- started out at about10-15 but by the time I put up the second target it was blowing 20 25. I shot one round on the second an knew it was useless to continue. Scored 81 with 1.698", 1.668" groups. Going to seat the next load out some to get the bullets closer to the lans which should shrink the groups. Definately going to wait for a nice calm day as well.:grin:

[Djones]

I received my bullets from Mustang today!

http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt124/duckwhackercmon/AAE5F1F6-B40B-4ACF-8FEC-9D4E9800DB2F.jpg (http://s604.photobucket.com/user/duckwhackercmon/media/AAE5F1F6-B40B-4ACF-8FEC-9D4E9800DB2F.jpg.html)

These are the first bullets I have seen in person that were swaged from 22 LR brass. It looks like he used Remington 22LR brass. I am impressed with the quality of these bullets. I will load up my first group of loads Sunday for the match.

I am going to try these 60 grain 0.224" bullets out of my 223 BLR. The barrel doesn't say what twist rate but I'm guessing 1-12". I shoot great groups with 50 grain V-Max.

Thanks again Mustang. I'll be sending you some of my 320 grain Lee REAL boolits for your 50 cal.

[TheCaptain]

Hi Brian,

I will be shipping out the prizes tomorrow.... I did a photo essay of the steps in the process. Like I say in the title, I feel like it's XMAS!!! And half the fun is wrapping the packages, so I thought I'd share my cell phone pictures of the process! And to everyone else who is competing, I wish you the best of luck and have fun!


Sorry for the blurrr. Did not have my Nikon at the ready! Stick-on ingots.
93852

I did not take a picture of the box after it was sealed up, but it is taped quite good all the way around with the strapping tape.
93853

And moving on to the .223 brass. Did not need heavy duty taping job.
93850

93851

As they say in the movies: It's a wrap! ( ... of the 2 flat rate boxes)
93854

93855

Interior box corners protected with folded cardboard; purpose is to minimize shifting of the inner boxes. Not too bad for this package, but a shift of an inner box filled with 50+lb can do serious damage to the USPS Flat Rate box (they are not that strong).
93856

The gift is ready to go; it has company: 50+lb box of lead. So, they can nestle together this evening!
93857

All set to go in the morning!
93858

Brian: I will send you the tracking number via a PM.

With kind regards to all,

~ Kathie (The Captain)

[Gunnut 45/454]

Captian
You've been a busy woman! I'm hopin for a good shooting day tomorrow.

[Nickle]

Nice. I'm obviously going to have to ship AFTER the results, as I need the desired caliber of the brass.

[clodhopper]

I shot my first target yesterday, 7 out of ten actually hit the 8 1/2X11 sheet of paper at 100 yards.

I had a 2 1/2 inch group last week.
Still have several weeks to fiddle around............

[Djones]

http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt124/duckwhackercmon/1A380FFF-6312-4111-B81C-968CE4902F86_1.jpg (http://s604.photobucket.com/user/duckwhackercmon/media/1A380FFF-6312-4111-B81C-968CE4902F86_1.jpg.html)
Got 20 of these loaded up now it is time to see how they do. Too bad it is -5 F outside.

[BT Sniper]

Looks good!

Good shooting!

BT

[JonB_in_Glencoe]

TIC TOC !
one more week of work and I'll be off for a bit, if the weather cooperates, I'll be at the range many times in February :) I have more of the bullets (that you gave me Brian) loaded into 223 from Last year, than I recall...must be 75 or so :)

[SquirrelHollow]

Got 20 of these loaded up now it is time to see how they do. Too bad it is -5 F outside.
I know the feeling.

I managed to get my reloading benches into the basement yesterday, in hopes that I could get prepared to load up after finishing the test loads from last year (and I need to load 5-6 rounds that were 'wasted' last year in nasty weather).
But... the cold weather is a bit of a non-motivator. The best range for me to test these loads at, is in the bottom of a river gorge, between two sweeping plains. When the wind isn't ripping through there, you have all of the cold air settling in the bottom. So, it's 30-45 mph winds, or -2F to -10F.

[Gunnut 45/454]

Squirrelhollow
As a fellow Idahoan I can feel your pain. Though we over here in Western ID ain't quite as cold as you are- wind and inversion is our bain.

[supe47]

Surf's up in San Diego. 'Course, It hasn't rained in a month and a half. So much to look at, so little to drink. Range time next week.

[clodhopper]

My efforts are looking up, latest rimfire jacket test loads yeilded first shot off the paper and lost, next four into about 3/4 minute. With more near one hole groups and always with a flyer way out there.
Back to the swage press.........
SquirrelHollow, have you ever been to Cedar Hills gun club? It's north on I-15 between Blackfoot and ID Falls. Could be a long drive for you, but conditions are not so "John Wayne" as the range you describe.
I drive 25 miles one way to my range.

[SquirrelHollow]

SquirrelHollow, have you ever been to Cedar Hills gun club? It's north on I-15 between Blackfoot and ID Falls. Could be a long drive for you, but conditions are not so "John Wayne" as the range you describe.
I drive 25 miles one way to my range.
No, I haven't. But, if I was going to drive that far for a range, I'd head (even farther) to the free public range in Soda Springs. Great range - just a bit of a drive for me (~1 hour each way).

[clodhopper]

Might see runfiverun over at Soda Springs.

[ronaldod]

I will be shooting at 100 meters as the range I shoot on has bad light on the 100 Yards line. I presume that is not a problem ?
Why 100 meters ? In the Netherlands everything goes in meters...

[ButterNutZ]

Well finally got a chance to work up and shoot a group with bullets BT sniper provided. Following his advice on not loading them hot I worked up a load using BT's 53gr projectiles over very light load of CFE223 23.7gr in sorted LC brass and CCI magnum primers. First test group of initial load work up printed three shots right at an inch. So I loaded up 27 bullets, left after the load work up, and headed to the range.
Here is the rifle that those bullets where flying out of

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s70/JeePing03/IMG_8352.jpg (http://s149.photobucket.com/user/JeePing03/media/IMG_8352.jpg.html)

The main concern was the long 28 inch barrel with a 1 and 7 twist rate, I had to keep velocity down so as not to explode the little buggers. I didn't bother to chrono the loads because I knew from previous experience with 52 gr A maxs that those bullets will be somewhere in the neighborhood of 2650fps. Which is plenty fast to punch a hole in a paper.

Here is what I got:

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s70/JeePing03/IMG_0876.jpg (http://s149.photobucket.com/user/JeePing03/media/IMG_0876.jpg.html)

Group on the left was fired first on a cold barrel. After seeing that performance I immediately fired the second group on the right. From the looks of it those bullets liked it when the barrel warmed up a bit and it shows. Group tightened up except for the dang 4th shot where it hit at 12 o'clock of X ring, that little bugger opened it up.

At this point the dang wind picked up and I decided to let the barrel cool of a bit and grabbed my 308 to make the time go faster. After about 30 or so minutes of ringing steel plates with 168 gr projectiles, wind has calmed down enough for me to resume my target shooting.

Fired second 10 shot string. Again left side is the first five shots which mimic performance of the first target. Not wasting any time fired the group on the right which again had the dang 4th shot open up the group.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s70/JeePing03/IMG_0875.jpg (http://s149.photobucket.com/user/JeePing03/media/IMG_0875.jpg.html)

All in all those bullets shot outstanding. I cannot believe how well they printed for being hand pressed. I get similar performance with 55gr FMJs by hornady.

BT sniper I cannot decide which target is a best one so I'll just mail both of them in and I trust you will pick the better one for the score.

[BT Sniper]

I had been wondering if anyone had been out shooting. NICELY DONE! That darn flyer! Out of 20 shots it looks like you only had 1, and at the most, 3 shots outside of the 10 ring with 8-11 Xs.

Thanks for posting your results. Good looking gun too!

Hope the rest of the shooters get a chance to thaw out a bit and get out to do some shooting. anyone can post some targets for us even if they are not the ones you intend to submit. It will motivate the rest of us to get out there :)

Good shooting and swage on!

BT

[Gunnut 45/454]

ButternutZ
Nice shooting! :Fire: I was layed off for 7 days - of course the weather was crappy the whole time !! Now it's been sort of nice and I'm back to work- go figure. We are supposed to have another storm move in tomorrow ? But if a can I get early maybe get some shooting in. Going to be trying my 60 grs this time if they don't get it done - I might just have to make up some of those 53 grs everyone likes.:-D

[Scootshop]

Please sign me up. Name on calguns is sixgunner. It's on will be happy with a 1moa

Thanks
scootshop
Barry

[BT Sniper]

Will do!

If anyone else still wishes to participate there is still plenty of time.

Good shooting and swage on!

BT

[BT Sniper]

Did everyone that needed bullets receive them?

BT

[muddy]

I've got a whole bunch of 22 RF case jacketed bullets left over from Montana gopher shooting. We used to buy them for I think about $12/K in various weights from the Malta Bullet Co. and use H-4198 in our 223's, that was some cheap gopher shootin! Please count me in, now I guess I'll have to sort some for the match. Thanks-Muddy

[Scootshop]

Question what size paper are you printing the two targets on?

[Scootshop]

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/15/agazede6.jpg
Got my kid to do it am I good to go 8 1/2" x 11"

[BT Sniper]

Muddy, I'll add you to the list. Good shooting!

Scootshop, Yep 8.5" x 11" and your good to go! That's the one!

BT

[muddy]

BT, At least I am old enough to know if I have a dumb question then probably somebody else wants to know the answer. I can't find your address to mail the target(s) to, where do I send it/them? I put my heavy 1x8 223 bbl on my savage and using some 15 year old gopher loads (52 HMG (Malta Bullets)mixed RF jackets, 71/2 Rem, mix mil cases and milsurp 4895) it shot 1.2" so I guess I'm on the right road -Muddy

[BT Sniper]

Brian Thurner
PO BOX 1783
Hood River, OR.
97031

Good shooting!

BT

[SquirrelHollow]

I'm in the process of finishing a bunch of new and ongoing firearms projects/fixes that will make me HAVE to go shoot. So, if I can get everything done in time, I might just make the deadline.

My 6mm hasn't been fired since I gave up on that nasty January day, last year. So, I, and it, are just itching to get back out there.

[algunjunkie]

Don't know how I missed this thread. I have a limited supply of bullets left, so sign me up.

[algunjunkie]

Ok so after I saw this thread last night, I got stoked and after getting off of a 12 hour shift and getting some much needed shut eye I woke to perfect shooting weather. 65 degrees, no wind and sunny.

Targets printed, gun clean and ready. It was time! So I raided my ammo stash for the rounds that I had been developing for my 55 FB open tip bullets and went to the range.

Here is what I got on round 1.
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa150/dcso11/580BDBC6-B1A4-4711-A4F7-7797A69B7EE6_zpsi1hexp8x.jpg

I smooth forget to reset my sights on the first group (bottom one or right depending on which pic displayed).

The second target that I shot is a bit better on score, so It will be sent in as my official entry.

[Scootshop]

Dang that is some nice shooting, wish i had fared so well.

[BT Sniper]

Very Impressive! I added your name to the list Algun. Glad to see people are out shooting.

Only got till the end of the month guys!

Good shooting and swage on!

BT

[newcastter]

Very Impressive! I added your name to the list Algun. Glad to see people are out shooting.

Only got till the end of the month guys!

Good shooting and swage on!

BT
I'm gonna need an extension in order to shoot with this weather we have been having over here on the east coast, were expecting another foot of snow tonight.

[Lizard333]

When does this end again? I'm having a brain fart and can't seem to find the end date.

[Scootshop]

End March 31. 2014

[anotherred]

I'm gonna need an extension in order to shoot with this weather we have been having over here on the east coast, were expecting another foot of snow tonight.

A little snow don't hurt..HA, HA. I'll get a target in one way or another also! There is 55 gal trash barrel (not in the pic.) just to the right and the snow totally encapsulated it! Good shootin' and keep the shovel close!

http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/2014-02-22_13-29-43_320.jpg

[Djones]

Snow that deep allows us to not need and shooting bags. You can make a nice rest out of the snow!

I'm ready to get out and shoot but Mother Nature isn't cooperating!

[newcastter]

A little snow don't hurt..HA, HA. I'll get a target in one way or another also! There is 55 gal trash barrel (not in the pic.) just to the right and the snow totally encapsulated it! Good shootin' and keep the shovel close!

http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/2014-02-22_13-29-43_320.jpg



Snow that deep allows us to not need and shooting bags. You can make a nice rest out of the snow!

I'm ready to get out and shoot but Mother Nature isn't cooperating!

Can't wait to see both of your targets

[newcastter]

Ok so after I saw this thread last night, I got stoked and after getting off of a 12 hour shift and getting some much needed shut eye I woke to perfect shooting weather. 65 degrees, no wind and sunny.

Targets printed, gun clean and ready. It was time! So I raided my ammo stash for the rounds that I had been developing for my 55 FB open tip bullets and went to the range.

Here is what I got on round 1.
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa150/dcso11/580BDBC6-B1A4-4711-A4F7-7797A69B7EE6_zpsi1hexp8x.jpg

I smooth forget to reset my sights on the first group (bottom one or right depending on which pic displayed).

The second target that I shot is a bit better on score, so It will be sent in as my official entry.

Nice shooting, who's SWAGE dies are you using?

[BT Sniper]

I realize it has been a heck of a winter for many this year. I'll entertain suggestions and comments as to whether we should extend the deadline of the shoot. Current deadline is March 31st.

BT

[Lizard333]

I'm good with an extra month.

[BT Sniper]

I think at the most 1 month is a possibility or "tax day" on the 15th? Surly there has to be at least one good shooting day anywhere in the country in the next 4 weeks or possibly 8 weeks at the most if we choose to extend the shoot.

[ButterNutZ]

Ok so after I saw this thread last night, I got stoked and after getting off of a 12 hour shift and getting some much needed shut eye I woke to perfect shooting weather. 65 degrees, no wind and sunny.

Targets printed, gun clean and ready. It was time! So I raided my ammo stash for the rounds that I had been developing for my 55 FB open tip bullets and went to the range.

Here is what I got on round 1.
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa150/dcso11/580BDBC6-B1A4-4711-A4F7-7797A69B7EE6_zpsi1hexp8x.jpg

I smooth forget to reset my sights on the first group (bottom one or right depending on which pic displayed).

The second target that I shot is a bit better on score, so It will be sent in as my official entry.

THat is very impressive! Good shooting.

[anotherred]

Don't hold up the shoot on my account. The way it seems, we won't see spring till may this year anyways. I'll get bullets on paper one way or another. The only thing I wonder is do I get extra points for every degree below zero and every foot of snow??:wink:

[SquirrelHollow]

Although extending the deadline is an attractive suggestion, I think a 3 month window is plenty. If you push things out too far, it can make the early entrants feel cheated.

I think a better alternative would be talking some of the prize donors into using their donations for a "Spring Postal Shoot". (Say, April 1st to June 30 -- or even just a 45-60 day window.) It gives all shooters some different weather to work with, and lets the guys less-than-stellar winter shooting locations have a chance to get out in at least the mud and rain. :wink: (Or after their fair weather ranges/clubs open back up.)

Spring time is when most of us are rearing to go, anyway.

[clodhopper]

I am going to post a target in the original time, need to get this over, and start load devolpment with commericial jackets and shooting for the comming season.
So far my rimfire jacket loads are not good enough to justify entry fees to shoot 400-1200 yards at 2 minute targets.

[algunjunkie]

Nice shooting, who's SWAGE dies are you using?

I used Corbin dies and "S" Press for these bullets. I still have the dies, but no longer have a press. :(

But it was the process that I learnt from a bulletsmith, Cluade, in France that made the difference in my bullets. I was able to pick his brain on how he did things when he builds his for competition. 10 shots under 1/2 minute with open sights at 100m/109yds. Mine were running 1-1 1/2 minutes no matter what I did till he corrected a few things.

[BT Sniper]

Living here in the wind surfing capital of the US I consider any day the wind isn't blowing a good day for shooting. That being said I feel the greatest challenge for me to get a good group for the postal shoot isn't the temp or the amount of snow or even the rain here in the NW but that darn wind! I do think the 3 month time period for this postal shoot should allow for everyone to submit a target in plenty of time with the chance for a good day of shooting. I'm still up for comments, yet at this time the March 31st deadline still stands. I'll certainly take considerations into account for next years shoot.

Again great shooting Algun! We'll look forward to those "few things" of correct that equal small groups on paper :)

Look forward to seeing more target pics. I got some 22-250, 223rem and 6mmBR rounds loaded up just waiting for a calm day and may actually have some .204 rounds ready in time too.

Lots of great prizes this year guys. Got to send in a target to be eligible though. Get out and do some shooting and be sure to have some fun while your at it :guntootsmiley:

Good shooting and swage on!

BT

[Rat man407]

I wish i had found this early
We have nice hot and dry weather over here
but i don't have any swaged bullets
oh well hopefully next year

[Djones]

Keep the original deadline. I knew weather would be a factor when I joined!

[Fetzner808]

Ah wish I had seen this earlier too!! Hopefully I'll be getting some swage dies from BT soon, but I would have loved to requested some .500 cal projectiles for my .50 Beowulf for this little contest.

[nhrifle]

Finally got a chance to get out and shoot a few rounds. This was the first time I had sent any of these bullets down range and I am pleased! I had to set up on a seldom traveled dirt road a few miles from my house as I can't get to my usual shooting spot due to the snow.

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I shot these out of my DPMS AR15 that I use for service rifle matches. It's basically stock except I added a competition legal free float tube and a two-stage trigger.

[Sitzme]

Count me in.

I will be submitting a target. Someone has to make the rest of you look good!

[BT Sniper]

TWO WEEKENDS LEFT TILL DEAD LINE!

Sitzme your in!

Good shooting and swage on!

Brian

[BT Sniper]

Nice shooting NH!

BT

[plus1hdcp]

Target shot today and ready to send in to BT tomorrow. It was a lot of fun and sadly, my results wont scare anyone. Oh well. I didn't handle a crosswind as well as I would like and I need to work on my load development. This is part of the fun of shooting. Anyway, on one target I had 1 (8), 2 (7) and 2 (6) rings for a 35 pt total and a 1.669 spread. The second round gave me 1 (X) and 4 (8) rings for a total of 42 and a 1.830 spread.

This is a great way for me to have a baseline on which to improve my shooting. This was shot with a Savage Model 11, Pentax 4.5x14 glass, 55gr swaged bullets, BT dies, CCI primers, and 24.0 gr WC 844 powder.

Good luck to all shooters and thank you to BT and the rest of the sponsors for this postal shoot.

[BT Sniper]

Good to see you guys are out shooting. One more weekend!

Stay posted for all the details!

BT

[Djones]

You guys are much better shots than I am! I need to get to the range more and get some more practice!

I did have a lot of fun shooting though. I was hoping to make it to the range twice so far this year but I only made it once. Here is my pattern.

http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt124/duckwhackercmon/8C0660B7-D42B-4626-BBFE-9CC60DCACDA8.jpg (http://s604.photobucket.com/user/duckwhackercmon/media/8C0660B7-D42B-4626-BBFE-9CC60DCACDA8.jpg.html)

[Scootshop]

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/26/nymevupy.jpg
Back to the drawing board.
But it's a entry.

[plus1hdcp]

Nice target NH. It's fun to make your own isn't it?

[BT Sniper]

Looking good guys!

D, glad you had fun. That is what it is all about. You certainly have a good target to improve upon for next years shoot.

Scoot, target on left certainly looks like it had some potential. Those darn fliers!

keep at it guys. Only a few more days till deadline.

Brian

[SquirrelHollow]

Come hell or high water, I'll be shooting this weekend. One way or another, I'll have a target in the mail with a March 31st post mark.

Put me down as entrant #13. :wink:

[nhrifle]

Nice target NH. It's fun to make your own isn't it?

Thank you, I was a little more than surprised with how well those shot for me. Credit definitely goes to BT as I couldn't have made the bullets without his dies. And yes I am having a blast making my own, it's more fun that I could have hoped for.

[SquirrelHollow]

I lost my ammo!
I went to pack everything up for this weekend, and..... All of the ammo I had loaded with BT Sniper's 6mm bullets, for last year's shoot (and general testing) is missing.
I don't know how. I don't know when. All I know is that I packed it in one of my ammo cans when I moved to the house we just bought, and now it's MIA. I have the ammo can - just not any of the 6mm ammo that was in it. :x

So, I'll have to hope and prey that the load I shot 0.75" with last year in the wind works well enough to get the job done with the 25 or so bullets I have left.
The only reference I have to that load is "39.0 gr IMR 4064 ... about 0.020 off the lands" in a previous post. I can make some assumptions about other components, since the wildcat only uses two particular lots of R-P brass, has a dedicated lot of Winchester LR primers, and has a dedicated lot of IMR 4064; but the rest will be educated guesstimates.

I think it'll work out..... maybe. :wink:

[JonB_in_Glencoe]

keep at it guys. Only a few more days till deadline.
Brian

My Target is in the mail.
I got out today...Partly cloudy, 38º, and a light breeze. Oh, I when I wrote the date on the target, I was sure today was the 27th :)

http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/uu127/JonB_in_Glencoe/Target_zps6c4e2169.jpg (http://s640.photobucket.com/user/JonB_in_Glencoe/media/Target_zps6c4e2169.jpg.html)

http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/uu127/JonB_in_Glencoe/th_rangesfrombench_zps3353fb3e.jpg (http://s640.photobucket.com/user/JonB_in_Glencoe/media/rangesfrombench_zps3353fb3e.jpg.html)http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/uu127/JonB_in_Glencoe/th_rangeswagedammo_zps76015e7b.jpg (http://s640.photobucket.com/user/JonB_in_Glencoe/media/rangeswagedammo_zps76015e7b.jpg.html)http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/uu127/JonB_in_Glencoe/th_rangeswagesandCZrifle_zps1dcbc9d9.jpg (http://s640.photobucket.com/user/JonB_in_Glencoe/media/rangeswagesandCZrifle_zps1dcbc9d9.jpg.html)

[SquirrelHollow]

Well, it's a target.
The rifle can do better.
The bullets can do better.
The load can probably do better.
The problem was definitely the shooter.
...But I'm still going to blame the wind. :wink:

The target is on its way (minus orange stickers). I dropped it at the post office at about 5 pm on Saturday, so it should have been on the 8 o'clock truck to Boise.


It isn't obvious in the photo, but in person you can see that the right hand target has a double-tap on the X ring. The oblong-looking hole on the right is just an illusion caused by shadows when I took the picture.
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[anotherred]

Mine will in the mail tomorrow.

[MOcaster]

I got my target in the mail this morning! I won't win either of the scoring portions but maybe one of the drawings.

[Lizard333]

Target is in the mail. No point in turning in something sooner than required. Tried getting another shot Sunday but forty mile an hour winds with 60 + mph gusts made it unacceptable for keeping a stand up let alone sending rounds down range.

Oh well, two groups at less than .7 inches a piece, not bad. There's always next year.

[BT Sniper]

I received a lot of targets today. I'll be scoring them and posting results as soon as I can. Probably be well into next week to allow time for all entries to arrive and give me the time I need.

Stay posted for results.

Brian

[newcastter]

I put my target in the mail today as well, weather today was better than its been but still had to deal with 20 mph winds. Groups were OK but I had done zero load development with these bullets and had not dialed down my scope so was shooting a little right. Oh we'll maybe better next year, I would really like to participate in a shoot like this during better shooting season, after all if we are trying to show others what we can do with these swaged bullets why would we pick the absolute worse time of the year to shoot. Don't get me wrong I think we should still have a winter shoot but also a summer/fall shoot.

[Sitzme]

Got it mailed. I wish that I had more time to work on the load but it has been improving. The real surprise was that my BVSS is not liking these bullets and it is a laser with the commercial bullets. Instead this was shot with a Savage Edge, you know the top of the line one! I had to do a little trigger work and try again today. The group on the left was first. :D The one on right was a little disappointing. Shot one more target and each group opened more. The gun is fairly new (<200 rnd) so I should probably be cleaning the barrel a little more. Overall I am happy with the way things are working out. The initial shotgun pattern was a little scarey but things are looking better. Maybe next match I will improve enough to win a hand full of mixed headstamp .22 shells! Can't wait to see the results.
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[IllinoisCoyoteHunter]

Wish I had more time to get one mailed off. It just isn't gonna happen this time around. Nice looking targets!

[Utah Shooter]

Wish I had more time to get one mailed off. It just isn't gonna happen this time around. Nice looking targets!
Same here. Looks like I sent out the last of my stash and started having an issue with my seating punch. Still waiting for a new punch.

[BT Sniper]

Received a couple more targets today. I'll update the list after the weekend.

I think we may have to have a "bragging rights" friendly summer competition or something. No prizes just pride. We will see.

Brian

[IllinoisCoyoteHunter]

Summer braggin' right competition would be great! The weather here has no cooperated and work has been demanding. I know... I should have my priorities straight... :grin:

[SquirrelHollow]

Received a couple more targets today. I'll update the list after the weekend.

I think we may have to have a "bragging rights" friendly summer competition or something. No prizes just pride. We will see.

Brian
If that happens....
I'd really like to see some kind of postal shoot that's open to all swaged bullets - not just rimfire hull jacketed bullets.

I think there are a lot of members here swaging 6mm, 7mm, .30 cal, .35 cal, .44 cal, etc that would love to post some targets. Even if it does work out as "match bullet" versus "it's cheap and good enough", I think it could be fun.


Maybe I should see about running one myself. ;-)

[Sitzme]

The match adds a fun factor but a simple thread requesting your best target for Jan-Mar or such for cal .24-.31 might work. Separate thread for pistol vs rifle and groups of calibers. It is interesting to see others results to rate your own progress. Seeing some groups fired with match quality pills and guns would be interesting even though it is unlikely I will go that direction.

[JonB_in_Glencoe]

If that happens....
I'd really like to see some kind of postal shoot that's open to all swaged bullets - not just rimfire hull jacketed bullets.

I think there are a lot of members here swaging 6mm, 7mm, .30 cal, .35 cal, .44 cal, etc that would love to post some targets. Even if it does work out as "match bullet" versus "it's cheap and good enough", I think it could be fun.


Maybe I should see about running one myself. ;-)

I would love to see that...maybe 25 yd for pistols ?

[Lizard333]

You get everyone's target in yet?? Just making sure you got mine.

[anotherred]

Brian, still alive? I'm also wondering how we all did.

[BT Sniper]

Was out of office for a few days. I'll post updates for all the targets received and score them just as soon as possible.

Thanks

Brian

[anotherred]

Cool, thanks, and I hope all is well.

[BT Sniper]

Yep! All is great! It will be even better when I get a lot of my back orders filled.

Picked up some more entries today at the PO Box. I would assume by now I probably have received all that have submitted a target.

I'll keep everyone posted.

Swage on!

Brian

[Fla9-40]

Just stumbled in here and have been reading this thread....This is COOL!!

Wished I had visited here earlier so I could have participated in the contest...Will they be another one this summer?

Also BT, you said in an earlier post here you may need to try CFE223 powder... I would recommend you do so, some good stuff....


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[Lizard333]

Just stumbled in here and have been reading this thread....This is COOL!!

Wished I had visited here earlier so I could have participated in the contest...Will they be another one this summer?

I think we will doing one for bragging rights only. Still a lot of fun.

[Fla9-40]

Prizes really don't interest me but bragging rights would be fun!
Don't know if I can hold a candle to others, but you are right this would be a blast!

[Sitzme]

Nice looking target Fla9-40. A few more shots and you might gotten all the red out. I've also been dealing with fliers but am confident that the groups will shrink as I learn more. Good luck.

[BT Sniper]

Scoring targets now. I'll have them posted soon.

Brian

[BT Sniper]

It will take me a little while but things are looking good.

Here is a look at what the scanned and scored targets will look like. I scanned these in on a scanner, used the ruler to scale everything exactly the same and used "on target" software to do all the scoring with. I selected "target info" and the software combined the group size of both groups then divided by two to get the "max spread" MOA score. In the case of the first target posted below the max spread average of the two targets was 1.200". That is a 1.473" group on the left and a .927" group on the right. 1.473 + .927 = 2.400 / 2 = 1.200" for the group score. The soft ware makes it easy for me and I'll post targets as pictured below in no particular order.

Thanks

Brian

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/BTSniper/JPWAPOSTALSHOOTTARGET_zps2eae95ed.png (http://s636.photobucket.com/user/BTSniper/media/JPWAPOSTALSHOOTTARGET_zps2eae95ed.png.html)


http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/BTSniper/postalshootdw_zps93fd86c3.png (http://s636.photobucket.com/user/BTSniper/media/postalshootdw_zps93fd86c3.png.html)


http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/BTSniper/postalshootMZ_zps2a1ba7b4.png (http://s636.photobucket.com/user/BTSniper/media/postalshootMZ_zps2a1ba7b4.png.html)


http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/BTSniper/postalshootCM_zps7485ddf9.png (http://s636.photobucket.com/user/BTSniper/media/postalshootCM_zps7485ddf9.png.html)


http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/BTSniper/postalshootSM_zpsc71f75ba.png (http://s636.photobucket.com/user/BTSniper/media/postalshootSM_zpsc71f75ba.png.html)


http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/BTSniper/postalshootBO_zps2a8cf6ab.png (http://s636.photobucket.com/user/BTSniper/media/postalshootBO_zps2a8cf6ab.png.html)


http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/BTSniper/postalshootAR_zps444f0256.png (http://s636.photobucket.com/user/BTSniper/media/postalshootAR_zps444f0256.png.html)


http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/BTSniper/postalshootSH_zpsb57c3e83.png (http://s636.photobucket.com/user/BTSniper/media/postalshootSH_zpsb57c3e83.png.html)


http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/BTSniper/postalshootFW_zps3d5e3a64.png (http://s636.photobucket.com/user/BTSniper/media/postalshootFW_zps3d5e3a64.png.html)


http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/BTSniper/postalshootDJ_zps07585d50.png (http://s636.photobucket.com/user/BTSniper/media/postalshootDJ_zps07585d50.png.html)

[BT Sniper]

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/BTSniper/postalshootJB_zps3c9a37ab.png (http://s636.photobucket.com/user/BTSniper/media/postalshootJB_zps3c9a37ab.png.html)


http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/BTSniper/postalshootBG_zps1f773cba.png (http://s636.photobucket.com/user/BTSniper/media/postalshootBG_zps1f773cba.png.html)


http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/BTSniper/postalshootET_zpsa4c2f840.png (http://s636.photobucket.com/user/BTSniper/media/postalshootET_zpsa4c2f840.png.html)


http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/BTSniper/postalshootMD_zps78fc8ab8.png (http://s636.photobucket.com/user/BTSniper/media/postalshootMD_zps78fc8ab8.png.html)


OPEN SIGHTS!!!! For NHRifle here! I feel unworthy now using a scope! :shock:
http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/BTSniper/postalshootNH_zps2f95d0e5.png (http://s636.photobucket.com/user/BTSniper/media/postalshootNH_zps2f95d0e5.png.html)


http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/BTSniper/postalshootJP_zpsb4457e83.png (http://s636.photobucket.com/user/BTSniper/media/postalshootJP_zpsb4457e83.png.html)


UNOFFICIAL PERFECT SCORE! I still need to look over all targets for "score"
http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/BTSniper/postalshootAV_zps177fc5d0.png (http://s636.photobucket.com/user/BTSniper/media/postalshootAV_zps177fc5d0.png.html)

[BT Sniper]

All targets received should have picture posted. Let me know if you don't see yours. Looks like we have 17 entries this year!

I still need to judge all targets for score.

Stay tuned!

BT

[MOcaster]

My target looked a lot better to me before I sent it in and it was scored. :sad:

[BT Sniper]

Not to worry! We have a lot of prizes to award! The guys shooting the "small" groups will have a tighter margin for improvement come the next postal shoot :)

I'm still very impressed with the targets received this year. Good shooting to all of you!

Brian

[SquirrelHollow]

Some of those targets, especially NHRifle's, make me want to cower in shame.
Great shooting, guys. ;-)

[JonB_in_Glencoe]

Gee, All I see is some great targets posted above. Great shooting guys, I am proud to be part of this small group of shooters, who are shooting hand made jacketed bullets made mostly by beginner amateurs (to swaging). Lots of people talk about shooting tiny groups...and we are doing it and posting about it.

[BT Sniper]

MOA group size results

.480 NHRIFLE
.497 ALGUNJUNKIE
.617 LIZARD 333
.763 CLODHOPPER
.768 BUTTERNUTZ
.936 JonB_in_Glencoe
.973 NEWCASTTER
1.200 J. PHILLIPS (let me know your screen name)
1.213 SITZME
1.220 SQUIRREL HOLLOW
1.338 ANOTHERRED
1.660 PLUS1HDCP
1.700 SCOOTSHOP
1.711 M. ZANONI (let me know your screen name)
1.714 FWEST
2.088 MOCASTER
3.269 D. JONES (let me know your screen name)

[BT Sniper]

SCORE results

100-6x BUTTERNUTZ
99-4x ALGUNJUNKIE
98-5x NHRIFLE
95-4x J. PHILLIPS
95-3x CLODHOPPER
94-1x LIZARD 333 (target was printed in smaller scale. score was corrected for full size target)
91-2x SQUIRREL HOLLOW
89-2x FWEST
89-1x SCOOTSHOP
87 JonB_in_Glencoe
87 ANOTHERRED
79-1x SITZME
78-1x PLUS1HDCP
78 D. JONES
72 NEWCASTTER
68 MOCASTER
65 M. ZANONI

[BT Sniper]

PRIZES

Shooters order of priority for the 15 prizes donated. Priority was determined from list of both MOA group size and SCORE. Shooter was listed only once.

Your corresponding number will be your number for the three prizes up for the drawing.

We need the top 15 finishers to post the prize number from the list of donated prizes below. Please post a simple reply in this thread as to your choice. Congrats to all our shooters. Thank you for participating and making this a great 2nd annual postal shoot!

NHRIFLE, you are up! Let us know the number for the prize of your choice from the list of prizes below. Once nhrifle posts his choice butternutz is up and so on......

I'll determine a time and date for the drawings. Will be this week, probably Friday at 5pm pacific time.

1. NHRIFLE Prize #9 SHIPPED! WINNER! BTSniper 40 cal die
2. BUTTERNUTZ Prize #3 SHIPPED!WINNER! Inline Fabrication "ultra mount"
3. ALGUNJUNKIE Prize #2 SHIPPED!
4. LIZZARD333 Prize #13 PM sent!
5. CLODHOPPER Prize #11 (30 cal) PM sent!
6. MUDDY Prize #8 PM Sent!
7. JonB_in_Glencoe prize #4 (44 mag if available)PM sent!
8. NEWCASTTER Prize #16 PM sent!
9. SQUIRREL HOLLOW Prize #10
10. FWEST Prize #12 WINNER! CompeteCast inc. PID
11. SITZME Prize #1
12. SCOOTSHOP Prize #5
13. ANOTHERRED Prize #15
14. PLUS1HDCP Prize #6
15. DAGUNNUT
16. D. JONES
17. MOCASTER


Donated prize list!

top place finishers will get their choice of offered products below

taken #1- small flat rate box of clean 22lr brass. I'll donate

taken #2- small Flat Rate Box (SFRB) of processed ready to load 223rem brass. I'll donate

taken #3- 5 stick lot of TAC#1 bullet lube stick donated by Randyrat, Thank You! left over from last years shoot.

taken #4- small flat rate box of new brass. Many calibers to choose from. Thank you Nickel.

taken #5- 1 unopened box of Hornady .224" 35gr V-Max bullets. 100ct. Thank you Flamethrower

taken #6- 50 repackaged .224" 90gr Sierra Match Kings. Thank you Flamethrower

#7- 50 bullets or jacket in any caliber he makes. Thank you Bullet Maker 57

taken #8- 2 boxes of bullets of shooters choice. Thank you IllinoisCoyoteHunter

taken #9- SFRB of 223 brass and SFRB of lead ingots. Thank you Vendor Sponsor TheCaptain (great place for all your lead and brass needs!) http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?63886-Lead-Ingots-For-Sale-Buyer-s-Choice

taken #10- Medium flat rate box of 22lr brass! Thank you Vendor Sponsor ALFloyd (Lead wire, 22 lr brass, swage dies and many more useful swaging tools) http://castboolits.gunloads.com/forumdisplay.php?126-A-L-Floyd-Swaging

taken #11- 2,000 aluminum gas checks. Thank you vendor sponsor 338RumUltraMag. (Gas checks and brass cleaning service ONLY 60 CENTS/ LB! http://castboolits.gunloads.com/forumdisplay.php?175-338RUM-s-Aluminum-Checks

taken #12-custom roller handle for reloading press of your choice form those he has to offer. Thank you Vendor Sponsor Redneck Machining (kyle623) http://castboolits.gunloads.com/forumdisplay.php?183-Redneck-Machining-(Kyle623)

taken #13 300 pack of hand cast Keith bullets your choice of, 41, 44 or 45. Thank you Vendor Sponsor Dry Creek Bullet Works! http://castboolits.gunloads.com/forumdisplay.php?119-Dry-Creek-Bullet-Works[/B]

#14 stick lube or a bottle of 45-45-10 or something similar. I need to contact for details. Thank you Vendor Sponsor LAR45 http://castboolits.gunloads.com/forumdisplay.php?120-Lar45

taken#15 Five "Bin Barriers, http://inlinefabrication.com/collections/press-accessories/products/bin-barriers . Thank You Vendor Sponsor "1in9twist" http://castboolits.gunloads.com/forumdisplay.php?139-Inline-Fabrication

taken #16 SFB lead ingots. Thank you ClodHopper

[BT Sniper]

List of priority has been established from scoring results. Please check you position and stay posted for your turn to choose your prize.

Brian

[BT Sniper]

Quite a bit of good info to be learned from posted results. I saw mention of weight sorting both jackets and cores and the shorter 20" barrels did pretty good for small groups..... could be something there :)

BT

[clodhopper]

I also want to donate a small flat rate box of soft lead, in fish shape ingots.
Rendered from roof flashing, lead pipe with the joints cut out, and 17 cal air rifle pellets.
I use it to make lead wire with ALFloyd's die

[newcastter]

Gee, All I see is some great targets posted above. Great shooting guys, I am proud to be part of this small group of shooters, who are shooting hand made jacketed bullets made mostly by beginner amateurs (to swaging). Lots of people talk about shooting tiny groups...and we are doing it and posting about it.

I knew my gun was not fully sighted in but seeing it was the last day I figured heck wherever its shooting I'll just shoot for groups, but I myself am very impressed with the targets posted by all of the members here.

[muddy]

#6 here, I would like to choose #8 on the prize list when I come up. BTW my screen name is Muddy (J. Phillips)-Thanks!

[plus1hdcp]

Congrats to NHRifle! Great shooting and with open sights, wow. I would also like to thank all who shared their load information. IF I can ever find some powder again, I will have to experiment with different powders. Thanks also to all who sponsored this shoot and BT for organizing it. Jon B said it best a couple of posts back and I too am proud to be part of the crazy community. It is awesome to see how well these homemade bullets perform. This was a lot of fun and I look forward to the next one.

[nhrifle]

Thank you! I felt pretty good about my target, but I am pretty sure a fair amount of luck was involved. #9 looks good to me.

[Gunnut 45/454]

NHRifle
Dam fine shootin! Must still have good eyes-shootin Irons!;-)

[Scootshop]

#12 here, I learned a lot and am looking forward to next years postal match.

Some fine shooting from all of you.

Scootshop

[IllinoisCoyoteHunter]

I should clarify my donation is 2 boxes of bullets that I currently have available at my house. I have quite a few bullets of various calibers.

[ButterNutZ]

Hey gang, holy **** I'm in second place! That was an awesome competition!
Brian I"ll take #3 please if you would.
Thanks
Anton

[algunjunkie]

#2 please

[Lizard333]

I'll take #13.

[BT Sniper]

Moving right along!

as for claiming the prizes I suppose it best if I contact and notify the vendor first that supplied the item as to who the winner of their item is. I'll then arrange the vendor or the winner to contact each other via PM and arrange shipping details. This might take a few days but we'll get it all taken care of.

Thanks

BT

[Djones]

MOA group size results

3.269 D. JONES (let me know your screen name)

Djones is my screen name.

Great shooting guys! Very impressive. You can get great groups with home swaged bullets!

[clodhopper]

Number 11, 2000 Al gas checks .30 cal please

[JonB_in_Glencoe]

#4
44 Mag if available.

[newcastter]

#16 soft lead ingots SFB
Thanks clodhopper.

[BT Sniper]

SQUIRREL HOLLOW is up for his choice in prizes.

Everything is going smoothly. I initiated contact with those that offered prizes to contact those of you that have selected their offered donations. If you don't hear back from them by end of week feel free to give them a friendly heads up but do be courteous as I imagine, like may of us vendors here, they may be very busy.

I want to be sure to give a big thanks to all our vendors and other members that have generously donated prizes for this years postal shoot. Do be sure to pass on a good word for those of you soon to be receiving these great prizes. Matter of fact a picture might be pretty cool of your received prize and certainly do the vendors some good in a bit of free publisity. Heck, I haven't even got to see most these prizes :(

Great shooting guys!

BT

[SquirrelHollow]

I flipped a coin a few times and the winner was #10 - MFRB of .22 LR brass from ALFoyd.

Thanks for all the donations, guys.
I'll have something to throw in for the next shoot, to return the favor.

[FWest]

#12 please, for a LnL AP if available or RC IV.

Thanks to all involved.

FWest

[Sitzme]

#1 please
Good fun. I have something to donate for the next one. Can't wait.

Waiting for the first 10 to make their selection has been like being the 11th kid on Christmas morning when you open one at a time! :lol:

ps, If you don't have enough 22's just top it off with whatever is on the bench, like .308 dies! :lol:

[BT Sniper]

Sitzme, LOL I got 55 gallons. I think I got you covered :)

[IllinoisCoyoteHunter]

55 gallon drum full of 308 swage dies? Dang! I am impressed! ;-)

[BT Sniper]

Good one!

[BT Sniper]

OK guys.... here is the same list of all the shooters that submitted a target entry for the prize drawing! I will be using the same random.org site that I used last year to generate the winning numbers from the 17 listed here. The first winner selected will get his choice of the 3 prizes available for the drawing and so on for the next two selected drawing winners.

I am in the process of video recording the results now and will have the video of the three selected winners posted shortly............


1. NHRIFLE
2. BUTTERNUTZ
3. ALGUNJUNKIE
4. LIZZARD333
5. CLODHOPPER
6. MUDDY
7. JonB_in_Glencoe
8. NEWCASTTER
9. SQUIRREL HOLLOW
10. FWEST
11. SITZME
12. SCOOTSHOP
13. ANOTHERRED
14. PLUS1HDCP
15. M. ZANONI
16. D. JONES
17. MOCASTER

[BT Sniper]

Ok I go the winning numbers. Just waiting for the video to upload to photobucket.


Here it is the video of the 3 random chosen winner for this years drawing.

Photobucket upload seemed a bit slow. I also uploaded it to my youtube page. Youtube will probably have better results for quick and quality viewing. You can click the link below for the you tube video or click on the picture to get the photobucket video.

Give all the shooters a day before we post the winning numbers in the open thread that goes for you winners too. Give everyone the anticipation of watching the video to find out the results too :)


Here is the link to the youtube video. Probably faster then trying to watch it on the photobucket link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCBP2Vfqo0E&feature=youtu.be




here you can click on the photo to view the same video posted at photobucket

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/BTSniper/th_009_zps563c98fd.jpg (http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/BTSniper/009_zps563c98fd.mp4)

[clodhopper]

Thanks Brian!
Even though my number did not come up!

[algunjunkie]

congrats to the winners!

[JonB_in_Glencoe]

I'm not sure why you have "prize" listed after my name in post 215 ???
As my number didn't come up.

This was a great shoot !
and Congrats to those who won the drawing !

[BT Sniper]

Sorry Jon, I cut and pasted the list of shooters from post 189 and didn't get everything edited out I guess.

Brian

[BT Sniper]

Well I suppose it has been a day.......

Winners

#1
#10
#2

You may have been able to hear my surprise from the numbers chosen, that #1 and #2 would come up but it is a random draw.

#2 (butternutz) is our gratuitous donor of the PID unit and is the third person to choose, he may get the opportunity to win a great looking PID unit at which point we shall see what he decides to do.

Congrats to the three shooters. Go ahead and post your choices starting with NHRifle, then FWest and last Butternutz.

Here is a look at the prizes again. We have a 40cal swage die (or $225 store credit), a PID unit and a press stand.

Drawing

We now have three substantial prizes for the drawing. This means three lucky competitors will win one of these great prizes no matter their results of the shoot!

All that send in a target are eligible for the drawing.

First chosen winner of drawing gets choice between my die set (or store credit) and this new prize. Second winner of the drawing will get whichever one is left.

Our local vendor sponsor "BetterNutZ" of CompeteCast inc. has offered one of his very cool looking digital lead pot temperature controllers. This is a $185 value! Wish I was eligible for this one.

Check it out!

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?221976-CompeteCast-PID-temperature-controller


http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/BTSniper/leadpotcontroler_zps233e51ca.png (http://s636.photobucket.com/user/BTSniper/media/leadpotcontroler_zps233e51ca.png.html)


http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/BTSniper/leadpot2_zpsb9bcae61.png (http://s636.photobucket.com/user/BTSniper/media/leadpot2_zpsb9bcae61.png.html)



Our local vendor "1in9twist" of Inline Fabrication inc. has donated a cool "ultra mount" available to fit several different presses. http://inlinefabrication.com/collections/ultramounts Check his site for many more very cool products!

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/BTSniper/ultramount_zpsac96a0d2.png (http://s636.photobucket.com/user/BTSniper/media/ultramount_zpsac96a0d2.png.html)



BTSniper improved CH40 cal one step die or $225 "BTSniper store credit" donated by myself to be auctioned off in a drawing to all that send in a target.

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/BTSniper/P1060963.jpg
http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/BTSniper/P1060965-2.jpg

[Djones]

Congrats guys. I had a lot of fun. I definitely need to spend some more time behind the trigger of my small bore rifles. All of these cast bullets lately,I went and neglected my 22 cals!

[nhrifle]

Kinda in shock here, I don't generally win any drawings, and this is cool! Brian, I think I'd like your one step die. And thanks for hosting an awesome shoot, and a big shout out to all the shooters!

[FWest]

I was stunned when I watched the video and saw my number. Now I can't say "I don't ever win anything". Time to by a powerball ticket !

Would like the digital lead pot temperature controller please.:castmine: Can't wait to use it, Thanks ButterNutZ !

Thanks to BT for his time, donations and organizing this shoot. It is nice to be a small part of this group and I can't wait to participate again.

Happy Easter, FWest

*Also if BT needs some help with the shipping the gear to folks please let me know.

[Scootshop]

Thanks
I will take #5- 1 unopened box of Hornady .224" 35gr V-Max bullets. 100ct. Thank you Flamethrower
Scootshop lucky winner

[anotherred]

#15 bin barriers please! And thanks to ALL the people that donated time and prizes.

[plus1hdcp]

#6- 50 repackaged .224" 90gr Sierra Match Kings for me please. Thanks to those who donated prizes and BT for running the shoot.

[ButterNutZ]

I was stunned when I watched the video and saw my number. Now I can't say "I don't ever win anything". Time to by a powerball ticket !

Would like the digital lead pot temperature controller please.:castmine: Can't wait to use it, Thanks ButterNutZ !

Thanks to BT for his time, donations and organizing this shoot. It is nice to be a small part of this group and I can't wait to participate again.

Happy Easter, FWest

*Also if BT needs some help with the shipping the gear to folks please let me know.

Sorry took so long to respond. I got you covered FWest, please check you PM.
Anton

[ButterNutZ]

BTsniper,

I cant believe I actually won something in a drawing! Please give me the details on what you need from me.
Anton

[BT Sniper]

I'll send out some more PM's to the donating individuals informing them to contact the winners.

Brian

[JonB_in_Glencoe]

BT,
I have been in contact with Nickle, we have traded a few emails back and forth. We have my prize of "choice of brass" from him, all worked out...and will be shipped soon.

Thanks Nickle and thanks to BT for organizing this shoot and scoring the targets.
Jon

[BT Sniper]

Sounds great. I'll update the prize list to show who all still is awaiting their prize.

Thanks guys.

Brian

[clodhopper]

I recived a nice fat little bag of AL gas checks today.
Thank You 338RemUltraMag

[FWest]

ButterNutZ has shipped the controller. Thanks again to him and all involved in the shoot !

FWest

[BT Sniper]

I admit I'm behind in PMing those that donated and the few left to claim their prize. If you have initiated contact on yoru own, Thanks.

I still have a box of 22lr clean brass to ship to a winner.

BT

[BT Sniper]

Trying to wrap this all up. Has everyone received their prize or been notified?

It was a great shoot. I'll put on another one next year. Till then I think we will try and get the "bragging rights" shoot going.

Good shooting and swage on!

Brian

[1in9twist]

Congratulations to all!

Looks like I have contact info for the winners of the Bin barriers and Inline Fabrication Ultramount. Glad to play with you guys!

Dan
InLineFabrication.com

[BT Sniper]

Thanks Dan. Awesome prizes! Feel free to shoot with us again next year!

Good shooting and swage on!

Brian

[muddy]

Yep!-Thank You for everything, Christmas in May-Muddy

[SquirrelHollow]

Good here.
Thanks again, guys.

[BT Sniper]

Sent out box of 22lr brass to Sitme today.

Brian

[Sitzme]

Sent out box of 22lr brass to Sitme today.

Brian

Thanks Brian, both for the brass and for hosting.

[FWest]

The PID was delivered today. Thanks ButterNutZ ! Will be using it this weekend.