A very versatile pistol

[Ben]

I recently acquired an 84 gr. wad cutter bullet mold ( 313492 double cav. ) for my Thompson Contender 30/30 pistol.The Contender has a 10" barrel , 30/30 Win. with a 2 X - 6 X variable scope on it.

I've shot this 84 gr. wad-cutter with " laser like accuracy " at 25 yards. I've also shot all weight .30 cal. bullets from 84 grs. through the 311284 at 218 grs. It shots them all very well.
A pretty amazing and super versatile pistol. I have since added a heavy barrel 10" in .22 Long Rifle. It is likewise super accurate.

This 1st photo is a combination of 84 gr. wadcutters along with Modern Bond 190 gr.spire points. An example of the extremes that this pistol will shoot very well.

If you just want to get out on the range and have some FUN, this is the one to take with you.

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[RED333]

Very cool, I like a fire arm like this, shoot a lot of projectiles well.

[osteodoc08]

That's just dang cool. Have you run them over a chrono?

[Ben]

No chrony here on this end of things..........Please SANTA ! ! !

[Three-Fifty-Seven]

22222

[seaboltm]

I have considered a 30/30 barrel for my contender. I have 44mag 10" and 357 8", both scoped. They are very versatile and I probably don't need another barrel, but so what????

[Ben]

seaboltm

OH Heck, what's one more barrel ? ?

[Ben]

I've shot over 20 different 30 cal. cast bullet styles in this particular gun, it shoots very well with all of them.

I'm thinking that my 84 gr. W/C load would be some mean squirrel medicine !

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Ben

[thehouseproduct]

I have a single shot 300 blackout bolt gun that I love for the same reason. Everything from 80gr pistol bullets to 250gr cast.

[9.3X62AL]

Freq drift alert......your Lyman #313492 casts at 84 grains? Mine pours identical-appearing castings, but the products weigh 93 grains in 92/6/2 alloy, and the box was so hand-labeled by Lyman on its orange Lyman IDEAL cardboard container. Their bases, drive band section, and nose portion are in similar proportions to yours. Lyman moves in mysterious ways.

[Forrest r]

Only 3.7gr of powder, that's very impressive to say the least!!!!

[btroj]

No chrony here on this end of things..........Please SANTA ! ! !

Santa! This injustice must be addressed.

[Ben]

Lyman moves in mysterious ways.

My preacher talked about that today, but he didn't mention Lyman's name.

[Plastikosmd]

I wish I could find a .224 dia wadcutter for my .223 encore

[waco]

OK. That's just COOL!!!!!

[9.3X62AL]

Lyman moves in mysterious ways.

My preacher talked about that today, but he didn't mention Lyman's name.

Understandable, Ben--the man is likely not a caster, after all. :)

The design IS a cool little boolit. I have been meaning to pour some more of these all year, but never quite got around to it. A new-to-me Colt Army Special in 32-20 obliges me to get off my aspirations and get moving on the matter. The boolit has a slightly undersized button nose ahead of its crimp groove, for all the world like a short bore-rider portion. In this regard it mirrors Lyman #358432, a 38/357 wadcutter design of 160 grain weight. On account of this "bore rider", these wadcutters line up in speed-loaders for cylinder filling MUCH more easily than flush-seated wadcutter loads do.

I can't remember the last time I shot a wadcutter load. The Semi-Wadcutter Siren Song with lead vocals by Elmer Keith led me astray a long time ago, and I could be beyond redemption. The round flatnose has made a few inroads into this monopoly on revolver chow, but only in shallow depth.

[Ben]

Only 3.7gr of powder, that's very impressive to say the least!!!!

You'd have to shoot this out of my Contender to be able to relate to this.....

It is no chipmunk load, it is a fairly potent load.

Ben

[Ben]

Freq drift alert......your Lyman #313492 casts at 84 grains? Mine pours identical-appearing castings, but the products weigh 93 grains in 92/6/2 alloy, and the box was so hand-labeled by Lyman on its orange Lyman IDEAL cardboard container. Their bases, drive band section, and nose portion are in similar proportions to yours. Lyman moves in mysterious ways.

Al :

You got me to wondering if my copy of the 313492 is in effect casting at 84 grs. I went down to the bench a few minutes ago to check this out............

I weighed 5 of the " as cast " bullets pulled at random, they are all with 1/10 th of a grain of each other . My alloy is ACWW's with " a touch " of tin added for good mold fill out .

I thought that maybe my electronic scales were playing tricks on me ( although I've never had a problem with them in the past ) . So, I placed a few of the bullets in my balance beam scale also to double check things.....same identical weights verified there also.

Looks like maybe there are at least two versions of this mold out there for the .32 cal. boys ? ?

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[Catshooter]

Ben and Al,

I too have noticed that some of my Lyman's will drop heavier than is considered normal. My 375449 goes 284 grains and my 311284 does 222. This is lubed and checked, but still.

No mortal man can follow the ways of Ideal/Lyman, for sooth.

You know Ben, I would bet that the TC 30-30 is a versatile set up. Never thought of one before. Cheap and plentiful brass and a million thirty caliber moulds to pick from.



Cat

[9.3X62AL]

No mortal man can follow the ways of Ideal/Lyman, for sooth.



Lyman mould poetry is nowhere close to iambic pentameter.

Ben, it wasn't your weight measurement I held in doubt. Seeking consistency between Lyman moulds of same number is a fool's errand, they are more like Duesenbergs--no two alike.

[Thundermaker]

A rep from Corbin told me that the first dies they made were for a .308 170gr. JWC. They shot those into one ragged hole at 100 yards. I bet a 200gr LWC would be great in a .300 blackout.

[Beerd]

dog gone it, now you've got me wanting to put aside the other "projects" and dig out the 30 Herrett barrel.
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[dbosman]

Midway lists this
RCBS 2-Cavity Bullet Mold 32-098-WC 32 Caliber (314 Diameter) 98 Grain Wadcutter
as in stock for $73.99

[Slow Elk 45/70]

Back when the 30 Harrett came on the sean, I thought I had to have one for silleywet shooting....lots of time spent working brass , no joy.....anyway I decided to stay with my 30-30.....it shoots everything I feed it very well, kills bunnies, jacks, coyotes, sod poodles, mule deer , I use a 2.5x scope on it...way to much fun, so I have way to many bbls for it. I use the 30/30 and 223 most , but also have both Harretts , 22 , 44mag, 357 mag, Ok I even admit to having a 45/70 that is a hoot as long as you don't get stupid with the powder charge...bottom line, TC Contenders are FUN and work for lots of things....even empty beer cans....IMHO:2gunsfiring_v1::o

[3leggedturtle]

What a great looking rig. I looked for almost 9 months for a 10" bull or octagon barrel and couldn't find a reasonably priced one. So I had MGM make me a 12" 30/30 at the same time they were making me a 8.5" 9mm barrel for me. I have some .312 plated WC's I need to try in mine pretty soon.

[Plastikosmd]

No luck on my end looking for anyone who tried this with reduced loads in a .223 bore. Maybe it can't be done. At the least I am gonna try some reduced loads, pistol powder, 5-7gr of unique

[Ben]

Cat,

You know Ben, I would bet that the TC 30-30 is a versatile set up. Never thought of one before. Cheap and plentiful brass and a million thirty caliber moulds to pick from.

My exact thoughts !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ben

[Garyshome]

Nice shootin!

[smoked turkey]

Ben that is a very versatile caliber. I really enjoy shooting my 30-30 what ever it is chambered in. I have an old Savage 340 that shoots good. My old Marlin does as well. Oh yes my Contender does too! However I have to say I have never had a group like yours. Somehow that does not surprise me. Now I may have to look for one of the wad cutter molds...

[bearcove]

35 rem contender is similar.

[lar45]

Quickload says your load is going around 950fps-ish

[357maximum]

Ben

Do you have a SAECO 316 at your disposal ?

[Ben]

Quickload says your load is going around 950fps-ish

That gives me some idea as to the velocity.
Thanks ,
Ben

[Ben]

Ben

Do you have a SAECO 316 at your disposal ?

No, I don't.

Ben

[357maximum]

No, I don't.

Ben


You have a PM SIR :drinks: