ohland
12-04-2013, 02:03 PM
Scrounged up some descriptions for .323 diameter molds from a variety of sources. If some of you-all have better descriptions from Ideal or Lyman catalogs, please post to this thread with the correction or description of the boolit.
Disclaimer: It is well known that (at times) cherries have been used too long, with undersized cavities resulting. Some throats are too big compared to the groove diameter. Over time, manufacturers held different tolerances and dimensions for the chamber and bore. Different alloys will turn out different diameters. What follows below is simply a collection of the various Ideal and Lyman mold descriptions, which does NOT mean that any particular mold will cast a boolit like you expect. What does this mean? Slug your bore if you don't know the bore/groove dimensions for your gun. If the mold is undersize, you may have to beagle / lap it out some. [ed]
NOTE: Any loads mentioned are taken from period documents, and are not in any way tested. Please refer to modern loading manuals for safe loads. [ed]
v/r,
A fellow servant to the heavy metal :coffee:
.323 is the proper diameter of bullets for all arms using the following cartridges: .32 Ideal ; .32-44 S. & W., .32 S. & W. rifle, etc.
32359. This is a bullet that has met with favor by those who have rifles using the .32 Ideal cartridge. (PB, FN, 115 - TP is 295)
32360. This series of bullets is intended for rifles using the .32 Ideal cartridges, for light and heavy weights. Shape of point is standard and they will seat all right with the regular tools for .32 Ideal cartridges. (PB, FN, 75, 100, 125, 150, 175, 200, 225 - TP is 295)
32361. This is the regular bullet for .32 S. & W. rifle, making a very nice short range bullet for rifles using the .32 Ideal cartridge. (PB, FN, 98 - TP is 366)
32362. This is the regular bullet for .32-44 S. & W. target revolver. It also makes a fine short range bullet that will fit the .32 Ideal shells. (PB, RN, 83 - TP is 470)
32363. Round ball for .32-44 S. & W. Gallery, may be used for very short range in rifles using .32 Ideal cartridges. (50)
323236 A good plain base bullet for .32 Special or 8 mm. (PB, RN, 188 - TP is 366)
323357 Plain base bullet with flat nose for the 8 mm. A good hunting bullet. (PB, FN, 183 - TP is 295)
323366 A spitzer gas check bullet designed for the 8 mm. (GC, SP, 182 - TP is 366)
323378 Blunt nose gas check bullet designed for the 8 mm. GC, RN, 243 - TP is 470)
323470 A very popular design by H. Guy Loverin. (GC, RN, 165 - TP is 470)
323471 A heavy bullet for the 8 mm, plenty of bearing and lubrication. H. Guy Loverin design. (GC, RN, 215 - TP is 366)
323481 A Squib gas check bullet for the 8 mm. (GC, SP, 185 - TP is 471)
Disclaimer: It is well known that (at times) cherries have been used too long, with undersized cavities resulting. Some throats are too big compared to the groove diameter. Over time, manufacturers held different tolerances and dimensions for the chamber and bore. Different alloys will turn out different diameters. What follows below is simply a collection of the various Ideal and Lyman mold descriptions, which does NOT mean that any particular mold will cast a boolit like you expect. What does this mean? Slug your bore if you don't know the bore/groove dimensions for your gun. If the mold is undersize, you may have to beagle / lap it out some. [ed]
NOTE: Any loads mentioned are taken from period documents, and are not in any way tested. Please refer to modern loading manuals for safe loads. [ed]
v/r,
A fellow servant to the heavy metal :coffee:
.323 is the proper diameter of bullets for all arms using the following cartridges: .32 Ideal ; .32-44 S. & W., .32 S. & W. rifle, etc.
32359. This is a bullet that has met with favor by those who have rifles using the .32 Ideal cartridge. (PB, FN, 115 - TP is 295)
32360. This series of bullets is intended for rifles using the .32 Ideal cartridges, for light and heavy weights. Shape of point is standard and they will seat all right with the regular tools for .32 Ideal cartridges. (PB, FN, 75, 100, 125, 150, 175, 200, 225 - TP is 295)
32361. This is the regular bullet for .32 S. & W. rifle, making a very nice short range bullet for rifles using the .32 Ideal cartridge. (PB, FN, 98 - TP is 366)
32362. This is the regular bullet for .32-44 S. & W. target revolver. It also makes a fine short range bullet that will fit the .32 Ideal shells. (PB, RN, 83 - TP is 470)
32363. Round ball for .32-44 S. & W. Gallery, may be used for very short range in rifles using .32 Ideal cartridges. (50)
323236 A good plain base bullet for .32 Special or 8 mm. (PB, RN, 188 - TP is 366)
323357 Plain base bullet with flat nose for the 8 mm. A good hunting bullet. (PB, FN, 183 - TP is 295)
323366 A spitzer gas check bullet designed for the 8 mm. (GC, SP, 182 - TP is 366)
323378 Blunt nose gas check bullet designed for the 8 mm. GC, RN, 243 - TP is 470)
323470 A very popular design by H. Guy Loverin. (GC, RN, 165 - TP is 470)
323471 A heavy bullet for the 8 mm, plenty of bearing and lubrication. H. Guy Loverin design. (GC, RN, 215 - TP is 366)
323481 A Squib gas check bullet for the 8 mm. (GC, SP, 185 - TP is 471)