Any good advice on loads for a 336 .35 Rem

[randy_68]

I just picked up a good used Marlin 336cs in .35 Rem 1987 model with microgroove and am looking for advice on some loads. I will probably order a mold in the near future and from what I've been reading it looks like the rcbs 200 or something similar is the one to use. I have an assortment of powders but probably not the right ones. Right now I have H110, Lilgun, IMR4227, Unique and AA1680. Of these the 4227 was the only one I found listed in my manual and it was for a 204 gr lead boolit.
Also on boolits I have 158 swcgc and 180wfngc lead boolits and some 180xtp's that I can use to get started. This gun will get used primarily for varmits such as coyotes, deer and maybe a hog hunt or two. Just looking for some feedback on loads for the .35 rem in the 336. Any feedback appreciated.

[fishnbob]

I would check the manuals for 2400, Unique and you can't over look the 3031 powder. I have used all three with cast/GC boolits and mostly 3031 and Reloder 7 with the 180xtp's. It kills on both ends.

[mainiac]

I run the rcbs 200 in my 35,s and i run them full speed, with either h-4895,h-335,etc.

[MtGun44]

Ranch Dog 190 won't chamber in mine. . . . . .

Be aware that some (many/most????) have tight throats and won't abide
any full diam beyond about 1/16th inch past the case mouth.

Bill

[RickinTN]

Ranch Dog 190 won't chamber in mine. . . . . .

Be aware that some (many/most????) have tight throats and won't abide
any full diam beyond about 1/16th inch past the case mouth.

Bill

Bill,
Two of mine measure .056" and .085" of throat length, so you are correct. I use the NOE version of the RCBS 200-FN and it works in my rifle with the .085" throat barely. It probably would work in the other with a little contact.
To the original poster....My NOE version casts at about 212 grains and drops at around .362". I size it .360" for my rifle. You can go mild to wild with velocity as the 16-twist of your rifle should be cast friendly. My rememberer isn't what it used to be but I think I recall a recent post (today maybe?) where a member here got his deer with this bullet and a velocity in the 1,300 or so fps range.
Good Luck, and enjoy your rifle,
Rick

[357Mag]

Randy 68 -

Howdy !

I found the old Lyman manual loads listed for IMR3031, to be right on the money.

From memory..... the recommended max charge of 3031 under Lyman 204s was 35.5gr..... exactly 1gr less than the max recommended charge of 36.5gr 3031; for use under Hornady 200RN.
But... DON'T trust my memory !! Please look it up, and verify for your own self.

For mild recoil target-type loads, I'm shooting IMR4759 under " Dead Center " 195gr swaged SPBT... " patched " w/ Dymo label maker tape. I still have not determined max charge yet, but most recent charge tested of 18.2gr was safe.

When I can get them, surplus Rem 150 PSP ( plated ) are stupid accurate shot from my XLR. The charge is 18.7gr IMR 4759 Rem 9 1/2 Mag


With regards,
357Mag

[Lefty SRH]

Imr 3031 has been my go to powder for my 336 35 Remmy

[Outpost75]

+1 on IMR3031 for full charge 200-215-grain GC loads with RCBS. 35-200FN.

Also cheap to shoot and lots of fun is either 8 grains of Bullseye or 10 grains of Unique with the same bullet, but without the GC. #358430 or clones work well also with these charges, as does the Hunter's Supply 190 LFN or the NEI #161A. I find the 190-200 grain lead bullets much more accurate than 158-grain pistol bullets.

[square butte]

Timely thread. I just set one back behind the counter at our local gun shop. Will get it out of hock next month. It's a 336 SC - 1953 vintage with a pre micro groove barrel. Would be interested to know how the throats vary between the earlier barrels and micro groove barrels.

[ammohead]

Just for giggles I loaded my 336A (early vintage) with rcbs 250 gr sillywet boolit and 32.5 gr of surplus imr 4895. First rate accuracy and about all the power you are going to squeeze out of this rifle. Might kick a bit from a carbine.

[jlchucker]

Imr 3031 has been my go to powder for my 336 35 Remmy

Same here. I use 3031 most of the time, and my alternate is Winchester 748. These are the first two powders that I tried with the RCBS boolit in 35 Remington, and they worked so well that I never bothered experimenting further for what I use a 35 Remington for. By the way--I've read that Remington no longer offers their excellent 200 gr Coreloct component bullet any more. To that I just say %*$& them! I've got the mold, and a stash of lead. I don't need their stinkin' condom bullets!

[rjathon]

Same here. I use 3031 most of the time, and my alternate is Winchester 748. These are the first two powders that I tried with the RCBS boolit in 35 Remington, and they worked so well that I never bothered experimenting further for what I use a 35 Remington for. By the way--I've read that Remington no longer offers their excellent 200 gr Coreloct component bullet any more. To that I just say %*$& them! I've got the mold, and a stash of lead. I don't need their stinkin' condom bullets!

I wrote to Remington regarding offering their 200 gr RN bullet as a reloading component and they replied that all of their bullets are being used to make ammunition and they have no extra for reloaders. They said that they are working at over 100% and still can't keep up with demand.

[sandman228]

ive got an older 1964 model 336 in 35 rem , for plinkers I use .358 195 rn from a lyman mold ( I cant remember the number on the mold) over about 12 gr of herco give or take I cant remember exact data off the top of my head . ive also got some speer 180 gr jfp bullets here that I ran across as new old stock at a local gunshop he sold them to me for 15$ per hundred, I bought all he had I load those over 37.5 gr of varget .

[dualsport]

Timely thread. I just set one back behind the counter at our local gun shop. Will get it out of hock next month. It's a 336 SC - 1953 vintage with a pre micro groove barrel. Would be interested to know how the throats vary between the earlier barrels and micro groove barrels. Search or google 'Ranch Dog Outdoors'. There's a lot of info re. the .35 Rem. in a Marlin. IIRC there was a drawing of the two Marlin chambers, Micro-Groove and Ballard type both. There is some small differences, again if I'm remembering it right.

[hornady308]

I developed what I call THE LOAD for my Marlin 336. It uses a 190 gr Ranch Dog bullet with 36.0 gr IMR 3031. This combination is all I use and is very accurate. The bullets are 50/50 ww and pure lead, air cooled.

[randy_68]

Well i just picked up my rifle last night. It looks real nice. I bought 100 pcs of brass, and a pound of 3031. Also ordered an RCBS 35-200 fn mold and a .359 sizing die. I already have a .358 sizer so when everything comes in and I get some free time I will be casting up a few and trying this gun out. Hopefully I'll get to shoot a coyote with it this winter.

[jlchucker]

Well i just picked up my rifle last night. It looks real nice. I bought 100 pcs of brass, and a pound of 3031. Also ordered an RCBS 35-200 fn mold and a .359 sizing die. I already have a .358 sizer so when everything comes in and I get some free time I will be casting up a few and trying this gun out. Hopefully I'll get to shoot a coyote with it this winter.

If your luck is anything like mine was with that RCBS boolit and 3031, you'll come up with a tight group that will surprise you with your very first loads. The coyote population will be pretty surprised, too--those that are with the one you'll be aiming at.

[avogunner]

I've tried all of the big three cast for the .35 Rem; the RD 190, the RCBS 200 FP, and the Lyman 358315 and really, all three shoot great. However, like Bill (MtGun44), my mid-60's 336 rifle's throat is a little tight for the RD boolit (hard to chamber). I've found a good combo with the Lyman and 748 that my rifle likes and it's my go to hog load, but if the need ever arises for jacketed, I'm going to the Hornady 200gr Flex Tip. It's fantastic!

[felix]

The Saeco sillywet boolit works well also. It's a bore rider around 180 grains dressed, and it fits well with the tight chambers, like mine has which is a 336 standard rifling rig. I shoot it with 38 grains H335 equivalent WC844. Hot loads are a no-no in this gun model, though, because mine came from a previous owner and accepts a field gauge with very slight feel. ... felix

[WHITETAIL]

+1 on the 200gr. RCBS boolit.
I load them with IMR 4227, at 20grs.
They worked well out of my 35Rem.:Fire:

[jlchucker]

I wrote to Remington regarding offering their 200 gr RN bullet as a reloading component and they replied that all of their bullets are being used to make ammunition and they have no extra for reloaders. They said that they are working at over 100% and still can't keep up with demand.

RCBS, Lyman, Lee, and some others are still making some pretty good molds. When it comes to boolits for the 35 Remington, IMO just buy a mold and forget Remington's bullet making capacity problems. You'll lose nothing by buying a mold, firing up the pot, and making a batch of your own boolits. :castmine: