PDA

View Full Version : first pistol kill



white eagle
11-24-2013, 07:43 PM
Very sorry for not having pics but my camera was away on vacation with my wife
Opening day in Wisconsin was very,very windy saw no deer movement in the a.m so a little apprehensive about the rest of the day I went ahead to my stand location,after all its opening day
I arrived at approx. 1:50p.m and at around 4:00 I see slight movement.Turns out it is a small buck,well I wasn't going to kill him but the way the day had gone I changed my mind.I waited on him for 1/2 hour to get in a good shot position which he finally did at around 4:30 p.m. I have a Ruger Super Blackhawk 44 mag. with a Ultra Dot on it one shot and its a bang flop.Turns out that my shot was the correct height but the boolit caught him in the neck while he was bent down searching for acorns.I paced it off at 72 yds.I used a 265 gr.Mihec 265/640 h.p cast with 16/1 alloy sent on its way from a Winchester case filled with enough IMR 4227 to give me 1227 f.p.s
my first ever pistol kill :grin: this is the handgun however I did install th original grips and the ultra dot

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v730/kempobb/supremehunter2.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kempobb/media/supremehunter2.jpg.html)

Wolfer
11-24-2013, 08:10 PM
Congratulations, for me a button buck taken with my pistol is a better trophy than an average 8 point taken with a rifle.
It's been a pretty poor year for me. Had to work all week so only got to hunt 3 days. Shot a big doe with my 45 colt opening morning but never saw anything else I wanted to shoot. I have a little six point buck here around the house. Had him at 15 yds one day but just didn't want to drop the hammer on him. Hoping he makes it to next year.
Here in MO. they've changed muzzleloading season to alternative method season. Center fire handguns are legal now. I'm excited. Woody

CastingFool
11-24-2013, 08:28 PM
Taking a deer with my pistol is on my bucket list. Seems that when I take it out, the deer don't come in close enough, but do so when the pistol is at home. Do they know something I don't? Congrats on your pistol kill, that was an awesome shot!

Griz44mag
11-24-2013, 08:36 PM
I have a little six point buck here around the house. Had him at 15 yds one day but just didn't want to drop the hammer on him. Hoping he makes it to next year.
Wolfer, that is the respectable thing to do. It really PO's me to see guys shooting an immature deer and wasting a future trophy animal. If a guy is not going to shoot a fully mature buck, then PLEASE shoot a doe and harvest the meat. Leave the buck for someone that appreciates a mature buck in it's mature splendor.

taco650
11-24-2013, 08:56 PM
Congrats on the first pistol kill. Is that a Buntline Special SBH? Never seen a barrel like that on a SBH.

Win94ae
11-24-2013, 10:44 PM
Cool looking revolver. Is that a brake at the muzzle?

white eagle
11-25-2013, 09:45 AM
the pistol is a custom made revo
yes that is a muzzle brake
I wonder if its ok for ol Grizz if I shoot that revo
he must have a real good recipe for antler soup
really po's me that someone would have the nerve to say anything about anyone else's kill
agree with it or not its harvest time

GLynn41
11-25-2013, 02:27 PM
good on you

Catsmith
11-25-2013, 09:46 PM
Good job! Dont worry bout what anybody thinks. Keep up the good work!

LuckySavage
11-25-2013, 09:57 PM
Good shooting, and congrats. Horns don't eat very good, take a legal deer and be happy.

JesterGrin_1
11-26-2013, 03:42 AM
That is not a pistol it is a Rifle that the Butt Stock fell off of. :)

randy_68
11-26-2013, 01:03 PM
That looks like a D&T custom Ruger. I bet it does shoot good.
Great shot on the deer.

Lonegun1894
11-26-2013, 01:14 PM
Nice shooting and congratulations on the successful hunt. I'm still looking to get close enough to make venison this year.

Grendel99
11-26-2013, 06:24 PM
Cool looking pistol and bet that bullet expanded well. Don't let anyone tell you what you can or can not shoot, antler wise. The only thing I try not to do, is shoot button bucks or really small spikes. But that is me, and I don't force it on anyone. Congrats and welcome to handgun hunting! I've been handgun hunting for 3 years now and love it. I hardly ever pick up a rifle anymore. Was that your first cast kill?

white eagle
11-26-2013, 09:42 PM
no have many rifle kills with cast
358 win.
46-70 gvrnt.
the boolit with the h.p did not make a mess of any meat on the animal

skeettx
11-26-2013, 10:39 PM
AWESOME!!!
Well done, thanks for sharing
Mike

kbstenberg
11-27-2013, 12:18 AM
Congratulations on your first pistol kill !!
I also got my first one with a pistol this year. It took me 4 years to have the rite conditions to use the pistol over a rifle. How long did it take you? Kevin

waksupi
11-27-2013, 12:46 AM
I hunt for meat. I don't much care what head gear they are wearing. Good job!

white eagle
11-27-2013, 07:46 AM
Kevin
once I got the pistol it took 1 year to develop a load for it
I wanted to use a heavier boolit however I accidentally found this boolit
worked just fine for the hunt I had on tap
I just got it last year a week or so before the season opened

1Shirt
11-27-2013, 09:35 AM
Weird looking revolver, but it obviously does the trick!
1Shirt!

Combat Diver
11-27-2013, 09:49 AM
Congrats on your first pistol kill. I'm still working on mine.


CD

Crawdaddy
11-27-2013, 08:36 PM
Way to go the first kill with a pistol is always memorable. Congrats

35 shooter
11-28-2013, 01:05 AM
Good job. Should be goooood eating. I was sitting near a huge fresh scrape this evening and had two yearlings come in to the scent i had hanging out. They were within about 7 yards at times. I guarantee you i would have gone home with fresh backstrap if i hadn't wanted to not disturb the area till i gave big boy a chance to come in. Well, i gave him a chance and guess what? He didn't come in lol.

TXGunNut
11-28-2013, 01:31 AM
really po's me that someone would have the nerve to say anything about anyone else's kill
agree with it or not its harvest time -white eagle

Not sure what he meant but I'm a guest on a S TX deer lease where my job is to kill spikes, cull bucks and dry does. Oh, and all the hogs I care to shoot. :-) Point is, IMHO every piece of land populated by game animals needs a management plan. Not every buck will develop into a trophy buck. Definitions of cull bucks vary, a Nail Ranch cull or "last day" buck would be a trophy to most folks.
I hunt to manage a property for trophy bucks and to fill my freezer. My ego doesn't involve big racks or taxidermy bills. I don't write the big checks but a dry doe or a cull buck makes better meat than the best trophy buck. Some areas simply won't support a trophy buck, hunters take the shot that presents itself. It's not about antlers for me. I'm an excellent amateur chef but antler recipes are few and far between. When I (finally) get to post my CB harvest pics don't look for big horns, they're on the wall already!

taco650
11-28-2013, 10:39 AM
really po's me that someone would have the nerve to say anything about anyone else's kill
agree with it or not its harvest time -white eagle

Not sure what he meant but I'm a guest on a S TX deer lease where my job is to kill spikes, cull bucks and dry does. Oh, and all the hogs I care to shoot. :-) Point is, IMHO every piece of land populated by game animals needs a management plan. Not every buck will develop into a trophy buck. Definitions of cull bucks vary, a Nail Ranch cull or "last day" buck would be a trophy to most folks.
I hunt to manage a property for trophy bucks and to fill my freezer. My ego doesn't involve big racks or taxidermy bills. I don't write the big checks but a dry doe or a cull buck makes better meat than the best trophy buck. Some areas simply won't support a trophy buck, hunters take the shot that presents itself. It's not about antlers for me. I'm an excellent amateur chef but antler recipes are few and far between. When I (finally) get to post my CB harvest pics don't look for big horns, they're on the wall already!

Let me know if you need help ;-)

I have to agree with TX, its not my job to judge the OP on the deer he shot. As far as I can tell he only started the thread to share his success with a cast boolit. As long as he's hunting legally in his area, that's all that's important to me. Congrats to him and thanks for sharing his success using two hundred year old bullet technology.

DougGuy
11-28-2013, 11:08 AM
really po's me that someone would have the nerve to say anything about anyone else's kill
agree with it or not its harvest time -white eagle

Not sure what he meant but I'm a guest on a S TX deer lease where my job is to kill spikes, cull bucks and dry does. Oh, and all the hogs I care to shoot. :-) Point is, IMHO every piece of land populated by game animals needs a management plan. Not every buck will develop into a trophy buck. Definitions of cull bucks vary, a Nail Ranch cull or "last day" buck would be a trophy to most folks.
I hunt to manage a property for trophy bucks and to fill my freezer. My ego doesn't involve big racks or taxidermy bills. I don't write the big checks but a dry doe or a cull buck makes better meat than the best trophy buck. Some areas simply won't support a trophy buck, hunters take the shot that presents itself. It's not about antlers for me. I'm an excellent amateur chef but antler recipes are few and far between. When I (finally) get to post my CB harvest pics don't look for big horns, they're on the wall already!

Exactly! I don't horn hunt. I will take whatever crosses my sights first. One farm I hunted regularly on did request that I take the lesser bucks so it would give the better ones a chance. After the tractor went down in a groundhog hole on a steep hillside and dang near rolled over with the farmer on it, it was requested that I take any and all groundhogs I see, which I did roll a few. Other than that, if I am not going to eat it, I am not going to kill it.

35 shooter: Take a -sterilized- bucket and scoop another buck's scrape into it, bring it to big boy's scrape and scatter it around, then hunt that scrape. It will bring a nocturnal buck around real quick most times.

Enyaw
11-28-2013, 11:37 AM
That pistol looks like it can get the job done. I had a Super BlackHawk with the 10 inch barrel and I described it to people as it "shoots like a rifle". I used it with the original iron sights since years ago I had eyes that worked well and shoulders and arms not degraded to the point of being more like willow branches.
I did have ,and still do, an hunter ethics poise where as I shot only to the distance that I was sure to hit an exceptable size target 100%.
When people here congratulate for a good shot I can't. If you aim fer the bread basket and hit the neck it's a lucky shot.....mostly for the deer that didn't run off with a leg dangling like a string of mutilated hamburger to suffer immensely.
It's better to shoot only to yer 100% sure shot and not track an animal all day that will never be found.
No insult or critical contradiction here...just a lil friendly advise from an old hunter that learned from his own mistakes.
I know it's hard to wait for the sure shot when chompin at the bit to try out a good gun and load and wanting to succeed. The owner of that nice gun may be able to shoot a hogs eye at 200 yards and possibly had the bullet nip a lil branch on the way to the deer. I don't know. The load may be fast and the bullet hard but is the accuracy there?
Don't be slighted since I am only giving my own opinion. I know that gun and load could take a deer out to 140 paces if a clear shot presents itself.
I wonder why the 1-16 alloy when using a cast bullet HP type. Less leading of the barrel? Gas check on the base? A hollow point usually has a somewhat rounded nose that isn't the best fer huntin with an alloy that's too hard to expand . A bullet like a Keith style with more flat to the nose would kill better right? Like E. Keith said in one of his books ....the rounded nose bullets seem to just slip thru the game.
Rounded nose seems to slip thru opening a hole that closes a good bit after the bullet goes on.
Why worry bout a bullet causing too much damage when it is a good thing when the deer is shot from the side just behind the shoulder and thru to the other shoulder or shot right thru the shoulders to min. an escape to thick brush and...hit the heart more directly. Front legs/shoulder don't have a lot of meat on them.
Is the worry because of shots that may be taken to the spine somewhere or shot directly dead on frontal or the same from the rear?
So what does ya think?
I thunk a bullet with a wide flat meplate or nose made of a softer alloy and traveling slower for possibly better control would be a better gambling ticket. Deer can be resilient and tough but are easily penetrated and are thin skinned,as they say. So, the question is......does the load and bullet qualify as the best fer the intended use?
This is just me......I'd want a slower moving bullet made of pure lead and a self imposed limit on the length of the shot to be...maybe 40 paces....and.......a smaller list of good kill spots and directions and angles to shoot the animal?????
Just my opinion as an old hunter that has always almost exclusively used lead cast bullets.

Lonegun1894
11-28-2013, 06:41 PM
Like I said earlier, Congrats to the OP! But since we've drifted a bit, I agree with the premise that we should all hunt to a set self-imposed limit. I personally pass on shots that I don't feel are 100%. I don't even care if I can pinpoint the cause of the doubt or not. It may be at the edge or beyond my comfortable range, it may have brush in the way, it may be another animal on the other side, or it may just be a gut feeling. I don't care what the reason is. Either the shot is a 100% sure thing, or I don't take it. I end up passing on a lot more opportunities than I bring home animals, but I also don't have to look at myself in the morror and kick myself for taking bad shots. Here's the way I see it. I take a bad shot, I regret it for life. I don't take a shot, even if it is just cause of a gut feeling, I get to go hunt again and make a better shot next time, or the time after. It works for me, but some people put too much pressure on themselves, or put a time limit on their hunt. Other than the season closing, there is no time limit for any of us. If we wanted a 100% guarantee that we will be bringing home meat, we would be going to the grocery store and not the outdoors. Relax, enjoy it, and if we get something, that is just a bonus.

Wolfer
11-29-2013, 08:11 PM
Since we've drifted a little ill throw in my self imposed limit. With my old eyes, iron sights and field positions I can pretty much keep all my shots on a paper plate at 60 yds. Therefore I like my deer to be inside 40 yds, 30 is better. At that distance I'll know exactly where that boolit will land.
On public ground I carry a rifle so if a deer is out farther than my comfort zone I'll use it if I want this deer. When hunting around the house I often don't carry a rifle. My thoughts are that if I don't get a shot today there is always tomorrow. To each his own. Woody

Ramjet-SS
11-29-2013, 08:39 PM
I like that handgun it is very cool. I have great luck with w wide meplat on cast with good velocity for reach you can take about anything on this earth. Great job and some great table fare.

white eagle
11-30-2013, 07:16 PM
what is it?
so my shot was off the end result is dead deer
If it would have turned out differently I would have found my deer end of story
I can't for the life of me understand why someone comes into a thread and knocks the way I got my results or the fricken alloy I use or the size of the deer I shoot or this or that
I also understand some of you are alot older than the hills and should probably keep your opinions to your self
if I ever go into a thread and someone doesn't do something the way I would do I don't say anything its called etiquette
sorry I even mentioned it.....

Lonegun1894
11-30-2013, 07:27 PM
White Eagle,
I hope you didn't take any of mine as being critical of you, as that was not the intent. The way I see it is you took a legal deer that YOU are happy with and did it legally. That is the only thing that counts. Anyone who disagrees, well, they can post photos of the deer they got the same day you got yours, and if they didn't get one (like me for example), well, that just proves that at least that day, YOU were the better hunter, regardless of if that is die to skill, or luck, or just the fact that you were in the woods hunting and not in front of the computer. So once again, Congrats! Now go get another since I can't and have been working all day.

Ramjet-SS
11-30-2013, 11:02 PM
what is it?
so my shot was off the end result is dead deer
If it would have turned out differently I would have found my deer end of story
I can't for the life of me understand why someone comes into a thread and knocks the way I got my results or the fricken alloy I use or the size of the deer I shoot or this or that
I also understand some of you are alot older than the hills and should probably keep your opinions to your self
if I ever go into a thread and someone doesn't do something the way I would do I don't say anything its called etiquette
sorry I even mentioned it.....

Do not take it personal there are allot of "experts" on every web forum. Like I said I like ur gun and really like the results. Good table fare for months to come.

taco650
12-01-2013, 09:46 AM
I understand your frustration and you're right-most of opinions should be held in reserve unless asked for. Congrats on the kill. I hope to do the same some day.

Wolfer
12-01-2013, 02:40 PM
I've never been a horn hunter per say. I like does to eat. I need four deer a year to get me through. Since I want to hunt all season, or as much as work will allow once I have a couple deer down I get a little picky.
As far as bucks go I either want a small one to eat or one that I can hang on the wall but if I'm not seeing deer their all in harms way if they come by me.
Once after arriving back at camp with a small buck and the guys were giving me a hard time I remarked, if he had been bigger then I would have shot a bigger deer. Sometimes you have to play the cards your dealt.

MNgunhead
12-30-2013, 10:07 PM
Congrats on the pistol kill. I decided to go pistol or nothing this year. Unfortunately I took nothing. I will say that dragging the pistol around was much easier than a rifle, especially if you're not going to get a shot anyway. That's the only upside to my pathetic season. Hopefully next year will be better. Glad to hear of your success. It inspires me to try again next year. Shooting a deer with the revolver has been a dream for a long time and I'm determined to get it done.