So... what do I have?

[southpaw]

I had some shells given to me by a co-worker. There seem to be many 32 s&w, 32 s&w blanks, 32 short rf, 38 s&w and some 22rf that I have not seen before. Lets see if I can get some pics up.
First pic a 22 lr is on the left and the other I don't know what it is. The outside of the case is about .248"

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Unfortunately I do not have a 32 s&w, otherwise I would have a couple hundred rounds for it.

Ok, please tell me what I have is worth enough to retire on :lol:

Jerry Jr.

[Tatume]

I wish NEPA was close to Gloucester, Va. I have a 32 S&W revolver from the first half of the twentieth century that belonged to my Grandfather, but I've never fired it.

[2AMMD]

Check the size of what you have against the specs for 22 Winchester Auto. Could be worth a little bit of $ for collectors if it is. It is obsolete and Aguila made a run of them a while ago. The lowest price I've seen is about $16.00 for 50. I have one of the rifles chambered for this and really like the gun, but can't convince myself to spend that for any .22 rimfire.

[Harter66]

There was a 25 RF from about 1877-1912. I've been shaking trees and brush for H&R pistol info and it all keeps coming back to the original RF's in 22/25/32/38's . I'd guess 25 S&W but 25 H&R it was a name game then same cartrige but w/o saying the other guys name.

[southpaw]

Looks like 2AMMD is right with the 22 win auto.

Was there some use for the 32 blanks?

How about the 22 long shot. They look like bird shot. Kinda like you would load a 44 with bird shot using card wads and a roll crimp.

I will see if I can get another pic.

Jerry Jr.

[cwheel]

The 22 is 22 Win auto. I got $50 per box for some I had at a gun show a year or so back, was quite surprised.
Chris

[southpaw]

Here are a couple more pics

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cwheel- I wish I had more and the box but I only have about 25-30 of them.

Jerry Jr.

[Larry Gibson]

The RF cartridge on the right is not the Winchester Automatic cartridge. It is the Remington Autoloading cartridge. The two are not inter changeable. Both were brought out at the turn of the 19th century to prevent BP .22LR rifle loads (they were still being loaded then) from being used in the autoloading rifles of the day and the 2 propriety cartridges ensured only smokeless powder loads were used. The 22 LR BP rounds quickly gummed up the actions of such. The "U" headstamp is the giveaway that it is the Remington round.

Larry Gibson

[Mk42gunner]

Was there some use for the 32 blanks?

There were a lot of starter pistols (technically a non-gun since the barrel was a solid chunk of mystery metal) that used .32S&W blanks. Some were .22 I think, but most that I ever saw were .32.

I know they used them to start every race at the track meets thirty plus years ago, my high school had two or three that I know of. I wonder what they are using now?

Robert

[bgokk]

+1 To Larry " It is the Remington Autoloading cartridge. The "U" headstamp is the giveaway that it is the Remington round."

Interesting info about their history.

[Bullshop Junior]

There were a lot of starter pistols (technically a non-gun since the barrel was a solid chunk of mystery metal) that used .32S&W blanks. Some were .22 I think, but most that I ever saw were .32.

I know they used them to start every race at the track meets thirty plus years ago, my high school had two or three that I know of. I wonder what they are using now?

Robert

A lot of movie prop guns in the early to mid 1900s were chambered for the 32 blanks even though they may have resembeled a colt ir any ither firearm.

[jonp]

The RF cartridge on the right is not the Winchester Automatic cartridge. It is the Remington Autoloading cartridge. The two are not inter changeable. Both were brought out at the turn of the 19th century to prevent BP .22LR rifle loads (they were still being loaded then) from being used in the autoloading rifles of the day and the 2 propriety cartridges ensured only smokeless powder loads were used. The 22 LR BP rounds quickly gummed up the actions of such. The "U" headstamp is the giveaway that it is the Remington round.

Larry Gibson

I wondered about the U headstamp on the cartridge on the right belonging to other than Remington.

[alfloyd]

The larger one in the first picture could be a 25 Stevens Rim Fire round.
I got some for a friend to fit the single shot pistol his father had.

Lafaun

[jonp]

The larger one in the first picture could be a 25 Stevens Rim Fire round.
I got some for a friend to fit the single shot pistol his father had.

Lafaun
I think it might be. The mark is different on the Western:

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but the Remington with the U stamp has the same flat tip:

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[MT Gianni]

Looks like some boxes are labelled 32 S&W Long as well. Not to be confused with 32 S&W.

[Kent Fowler]

The rounds in one of the 22 Long Shot boxes are CB caps that someone put in the box and are not the original shot cartridges. FYI, they also made BB Caps, a round ball with just the primer as propellent, back then.

[southpaw]

Thanks for all the replies guys! Looks like I have some 22 rem auto-loading cartridges, some cb caps and from what I can tell are some old 22 shot shells. Plus all the others that have boxes and consequently labeled.

I is pretty neat to take a look back in history and see what the shells of the day had been.
Is there any special way that I should store these? Maybe someday I will put something together as a presentation box.

Tatume, if you ever get up this way let me know.

Jerry Jr.

[T-Man]

22 WIN AUTO for sure...yes, you can retire on it if you have something in the neighborhood of a shipping container load of the stuff in original boxes in something around 80 to 90 percent condition and find a collector interested in laying low his stock portfolio to buy the things from you. It always amazes me how when we go to buy the stuff that is considered 'Very Valuable', it is always priced as such. But when we have in our possession a sealed ammo crate of original WW2 German 8mm Mauser ammo dated 1943, it all the sudden is worthless to the guy that is selling the stuff for 5 bucks a round....go figure. I came across one of these cases of ammo in superb condition in my late grandfather's shop, complete with stripper clips. The guy wanted to buy it from me for 10 cents a round and I pay the shipping. Anyhow, nice find! Just don't let it go cheap!

[Chev. William]

Sound like a "Sharp Operator" - Buy low/cheap sell High/dear.