Ruger 44 mag Bisley

[siamese4570]

I'd like to find a stainless ruger bisley 44 mag with a 5 1/2 inch barrel. I think that there was a special run of these made by accusport. cananybody shed any light on this?
siamese4570

[C. Latch]

When I was looking for my .45 I would see one of those .44 Bisley 5.5"s on gunbroker every now and then. I'm guessing that if you spent a month looking on GB you would find one - but you'd pay for it!

[dg31872]

I don't mean to hijack your thread, but what is the advantage of the Bisley grip?

[contender1]

The Ruger KRBN-445W, (Stainless 44 mag, Bisley grip, 5-1/2" bbl, with rollmarked cylinder) was a special distributor model. Produced in 2002-2003. Known serial number range is 87-49555 to 87-529xx. (Not quite sure of the highest number.) There were 921 of them shipped to Accusport.
Since they are a low production, the prices are a bit higher than others.

As to why a Bisley g/f,, many folks find that the Bisley handles heavier recoil better than the plow handle.

[AK Caster]

I don't mean to hijack your thread but it is much easier to find a stainless Ruger Bisley 45 Colt with the 5.5 inch barrel.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=377084689

A year ago this same revolver was selling for about $450 by the same seller. If you reload the 45Colt easily has as much, if not more power than the 44 mag.
Just something for you to consider.

[paul h]

I don't mean to hijack your thread, but what is the advantage of the Bisley grip?

It's a much better design for heavier recoiling single actions.

[paul h]

I don't mean to hijack your thread but it is much easier to find a stainless Ruger Bisley 45 Colt with the 5.5 inch barrel.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=377084689

A year ago this same revolver was selling for about $450 by the same seller. If you reload the 45Colt easily has as much, if not more power than the 44 mag.
Just something for you to consider.

For the same $ you should be able to get one of the 5 1/2" 45 convertable bisleys. And agreed, in the bisley the 45 colt can do anything the 44 mag can do, and just a tad more.

[siamese4570]

I agree that the 45lc is much easier to locate. Just trying to standardize on the 44 since I'm already set up to load for it.
Siamese4570

[300savage]

the bisley grip takes a lot of the roll out of heavy kickin pistolas, transfers a lot of the flip into a push back into your palm.
i dont shoot the hard poppers much anymore, just overkill for what i do with a handgun now days.
but my wrists sure used to appreciate the bisley when i thought a pistol needed to buck and roar.
now i just use a rifle for that bizness.

[Deep Six]

I've seen the .44 mag too, but not recently. I do love my .45 convertible version though. I also just picked up a .44 Spl flattop with the regular plow handle and now I find that I actually prefer the plow handle for heavy loads. I was shooting each gun with 250 gr boolits over 15 gr #2400 in the .44 special and 18 gr #2400 in the .45 Colt. The way the plow handle just rolls in your hand takes all the sting out of it. The Bisley on the other hand was pounding the crotch of my palm pretty badly with those loads. I was surprised because everyone is always talking about how much better the Bisley is for the heavy recoil calibers.

[paul h]

Grip shape is very personal. I've seen several gunwriters state the bisley is the best grip. Well, maybe for their hands, but the best SA grip in my hands is a roundbutted Freedom Arms mdl 83.

As to the 44 bisley, there is one currently produced, but it's a short barrel.

http://www.lipseys.net/images/00818_KRBS-43N_Lie_Rt.jpg

I'd imagine it'll roll in your hands ;)

[contender1]

As noted,,, the grip shape & how it feels to the actual shooter makes the differences. Too many different hands & sizes to make a "one size fits all" grip frame.
But,, when you add custom fitted stocks to a handgun,,, it will make you smile!

[45sixgun]

I also just picked up a .44 Spl flattop with the regular plow handle and now I find that I actually prefer the plow handle for heavy loads.

I haven't tried the Bisley, but I did compare a S&W Model 29 (both with stock rubber grips and contoured wooden Hogue grips) with a plow handle Ruger .44 mag. Night and day for me. I hated that push back into my hand. It hurt, and I would think the long term effect on joints would be worse. By comparison I loved the roll of the Ruger plow grip. I could shoot it all day too. That Freedom Arms roundbutt is probably the cat's meow, but WAY out of my league.

[9.3X62AL]

I am one who prefers the Bisley grip frame to the plow handle. It shoots more comfortably for me. That said, I don't stuff the powder into the 44 Magnum or 45 Colt these days like I once did. Elmer Keith gave wise counsel when he once said that while using his 240 grain Keith 44 caliber bullet "1200 FPS is all you need." I've adopted similar policy to the Ruger BisHawk 45 Colt/250 grain SWC. If something needs more WHOMP, I get a rifle.

Extending this thought to the S&W 44 Magnum revolvers, the 1200 FPS/240 grain "speed limit" is about my comfort limit with that combination, esp. with the 4"-barreled version. That revolver/length seems to push "straight back" with the least "roll" when fired--to me, anyway. With older Model 29s, restricting the platforms to this limit may be beneficial in terms of service life, also--though many owners report lifelong use of 43K PSI loads in their 29s. To each their own, I say. For me, the Lyman #429421 run at 1100 FPS is a tractable load that can be fired with comfort in the Model 29, and is positively docile in my Redhawk. In terms of game-taking ability, the most-blooded deer rifle in my collection by several orders of magnitude runs with less power than does the #429421 @ 1100 FPS combination. That rifle is the Winchester '73 in 44-40 WCF that accounted for dozens of deer and at least 2 black bears. Its 200 grain bullets at 1100-1200 FPS from the 19" carbine barrel did not disappoint.

If a hand cannon is your pet passion, by all means indulge yourself. I've plowed that plot, and found its production to be much sound and fury signifying little. Shooting should be enjoyed, not endured.

[Shuz]

I have a KS47N that I'd like to trade for any .44 mag stainless Bisley .