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Blair
11-19-2013, 07:34 PM
Another dumb newbie question.....

My reloading experience is mostly metallic.

I understand plated buckshot will penetrate deeper.

Soft buckshot does flatten / mushroom.

My shots would be 25 yds and under.

Wouldn't the soft, mushrooming buckshot be better?

Hogtamer
11-19-2013, 07:50 PM
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?215794-High-Performance-vs-Quick-and-Cheap-Buckshot-A-Discussion&p=2425935#post2425935
See my post #20 on this thread. Oh, here's proof buckshot is fatal. Grandson, 2 3/4" 20 ga. #3 lead buckshot, 15 yds. 87996

Hogtamer
11-19-2013, 07:55 PM
At 25 yds it won't matter much. Would use straight lead myself.

SuperBlazingSabots
11-19-2013, 08:24 PM
The picture puts a nice ending to the story, congratulations!

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Greg5278
11-21-2013, 01:25 PM
I would use hard Buckshot to pattern better. Mushrooming isn't really needed in your application. If
you could get some cast from WW with a little Tin, you can heat treat them, and they will pattern better, and retain their shape.
For Store bought Buckshot, I use Hornady, or BPI Buckshot. I have found that most Batches of the Hornady and BPI can be HT also.
Greg

Blair
11-21-2013, 09:05 PM
Thanks.

Have used BPI's nickel plated 00 buck - great stuff and expensive

Recently bought a 00 bk mold from buckshotmould.com - great mould!

Am experimenting around and trying to see what works and trying to read and learn from on here.

Light, fast loads vs slower loads and etc.....

SuperBlazingSabots
11-21-2013, 09:17 PM
Hello Blair, please read my post on faster buck shot loads:
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?139560-Faster-Buckshot-loads!&highlight=Faster+buck+shot+loads

Hoping it helps.

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RMc
12-13-2013, 10:48 PM
At 25 yds it won't matter much. Would use straight lead myself.

The biggest impediment to tight patterns in most factory buckshot ammo is soft lead pellets!

6pt-sika
12-14-2013, 03:03 AM
Best buckshot I ever fired was the then Remington 12 gauge 00 loads with Hevi Shot buckshot . Got 10 boxes of that a few years back and still have 25 rounds left . But that stuff was about $3 a shot 10 years ago and I don't even know if you can still get it or not .

At presemt I handload buckshot and use plain lead . Done in all the deer I've fired at with my handloads although he furthest shot was maybe 30 yards !

John in WI
12-17-2013, 09:25 PM
I would be a little careful. "Plated" simply means that the lead is plated. It doesn't necessarily mean that it's hardened and plated. (something like an average .22 slug is plated, but quite soft).

I did a little reading about the BPI buckshot, and someone assayed it at 6% antimony. So it's plated, but more importantly it's got enough antimony to harden it--a lot.

I did some testing with dead soft and 6% antimony with a little tin (#1 and size F buck), and all things equal the water dropped stuff does pattern better. Up close I really doubt it would make a difference. I'm not actually sure why military loads are specified as "antimonical lead". Probably to get around the rules about expanding ammunition.

I normally make my practice loads from whatever range scrap, junk, and odds and ends I have, and save the trouble and expense for my working loads. I did recover soft and hard pellets from phone books, and the soft pellets can be pretty messed up. But I don't know if that happens on firing or impact? I'm guessing from the different patterning there is probably a good bit of damage to the pellets when you pull the trigger.