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stripercrazy
11-17-2013, 08:13 PM
At the range today, it was good/poor. my reloads shot well but there too high. I've got a 2 3/4 inch 1100 Remington with a cantilevered barrel and a summons pro diamond 4x......(I've always thought the scope sits high with this kind of set up) but anyway at 50 yards i'm like a foot high and the scope's bottomed out.....I loaded them on the low end the paper work said 24-27gr greed dot for 1450-1550fps....the slug is Lightfield Commander IDS Shotshell Slug 12 Gauge 1-1/16 oz Sabot....I loaded 24gr.....looks like I'll have to lower the charge to drop the foot, Ajay posted 17gr green dot for a reduced recoil load.....i'm wondering if anyone else has had a scope bottom out with a cantilevered gun..I bought the gun like it is, I don't know what rings it has...I'll have to shoot the gun at 100 yards and see if the slugs drop into the range of the scope....


unless I can fix it I won't take if hunting I need to hit at 50 yards

SuperBlazingSabots
11-17-2013, 08:53 PM
Hello stripercrazy, just use door foam insulation strip of 1/4 or 3/8 inch thick to keep the cantilever from banging against the receiver with a 1 inch long strip!
I have one on my Remington M 1100 shotgun as a cushioning device!

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bikerbeans
11-17-2013, 09:39 PM
Hi,

I have run into a couple of Hastings 12ga cant. scope barrels that had this problem. One barrel was on a Beretta 303 and the other a Beretta 390. I ended up using a thin piece of clear plastic to "shim" the scope. If you want to drop your POI, then shim under the bottom of the scope on the front ring. Both guns fired many, many buckhammers and other slugs without the shims moving.

BB

stripercrazy
11-17-2013, 10:18 PM
when I said bottomed out I should have said I can't adjust the scope any lower.......biker bean that's interesting I didn't think about shimming...hmmmm

GBertolet
11-17-2013, 10:28 PM
I have the exact shotgun, and mine shot low. Mine is the older style barrel, having the rifled choke and I/C tubes. I put a brass shim on the bottom rear ring to raise the impact. You can also use a piece of plastic soda bottle instead of brass. If you put a shim on the bottom of the front ring, it will lower the impact point, hopefully getting you on target. Be careful about leaving your scope adjusted at the limit of it's travel, if it works out that way for you to get zeroed. Scopes tend to break, or not hold zero when adjusted to that point.

My cantilever vibrated like a tuning fork, so I removed it, and milled off a few thousandths from the underside, where it attaches to the barrel. It now sits a little lower, and the rubber bumper is tight against the receiver now.

Heavy lead
11-17-2013, 10:38 PM
I have an 11-87 with a cantilever, it shoots well with the Leupold 2x7, however I think I'm going to have the barrel pinned and my gunsmith shim and drill and tap the back of the cantilever to stiffen it up, it's a dedicated slug gun anyway and the set up seems a little flimsy compared to a reciever mount.
I didn't have any issues with it shooting high or low, oddly it shoots full bore slugs much better than any sabots and it's fully rifled

bikerbeans
11-18-2013, 06:36 PM
I think one of the CB Vendors sells a device to stiffen the cant. scope mount and improve accuracy. Of course with my advanced CRS I can't remember their screen name.

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pipehand
11-18-2013, 07:22 PM
Vendor/Member's handle is OnHoPro. He makes a spacer that throughbolts the cantilever to make a solid attachment to the receiver.