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bubba15301
11-12-2013, 04:29 PM
anyone load blackpowder or subs in a 32/20(32 wcf)?

bubba15301
11-12-2013, 06:48 PM
anyone shoot a 32/20?

daved63
11-12-2013, 07:13 PM
I shoot the 32/20. I bought my first one over thirty years ago, a Savage 219 single shot. I have a few others now and load some reduced loads for an old Colt Police Positive. I use 5.0 grains of Unique behind a Lee TL314-90-SWC for a plinking load. I have not tried black powder in any of my 32/20's. I have considered trying it in the single shot rifle just because it would be easier to clean than the revolvers.

missionary5155
11-12-2013, 08:56 PM
Greetings
I have had a Winchester 1873 in 32-20 a long time. Use to be my "up close" ground hog rifle. If you are going to use BP then I recommend 3F. Also be sure the boolit is at least Throat diameter or a shade larger. My old 73 has a very fat throat and I had to lap out my 32-20 molds to drop at least .315 to get reasonable accuracy. The 115 grain works best in this rifle.
Same with Unique. I have used as little as 3.5 grains in the 73. But that is a "weak" load that is near useless on larger critters like groundhogs. On a tree rat or bunny's head up close it is fine. 5 grains was the old Lyman load for the 1873 with the 115 grain boolit. My 73 does not shoot lighter boolits well at all.
I also have a Savage 32-20 that goes out hunting. 5 grains Unique works well. I prefer the 115 for ground hogs and the Savage shoots these well. Again throat diamter is my sizing guide. Have not tried 3F in this rifle but see no reason it would not be as accurate as Unique.
Have a Dan Wesson revolver in 32-20. That is a whole different critter as the barrel is custom made at .308. It shoots everything nicely but again no BP has been in it.
Mike in Peru

bubba15301
11-12-2013, 09:18 PM
I am shooting a 1889 marlin lever action

Nobade
11-12-2013, 09:23 PM
I use FFFg in my Martini Cadet and the Ideal #3118 boolit. Super accurate, shoot all day with just a blow tube, great entertainment. I use the expander die as a compression die by backing it off a bit, and the powder charge is as much as the case holds to the top. Super easy!

-Nobade

bubba15301
11-12-2013, 10:45 PM
I use FFFg in my Martini Cadet and the Ideal #3118 boolit. Super accurate, shoot all day with just a blow tube, great entertainment. I use the expander die as a compression die by backing it off a bit, and the powder charge is as much as the case holds to the top. Super easy!

-Nobadewhat bullet and what velocity do you get?what brand powder?

Nobade
11-13-2013, 07:50 AM
what bullet and what velocity do you get?what brand powder?

Ideal #3118 bullet. Powder is either KIK or homemade depending on what I have on hand at the time. Don't know the velocity, IIRC they are supposed to run about 1300 fps from a rifle length barrel. I have never chronographed it.

-Nobade

4060MAY
11-14-2013, 12:33 AM
30-20 on a relined No.2 Rolling Block
my smokeless load is Sr7625, or AA4100 with LEE six cavity 128 gr bullet looks like the 311008, but heavier and longer
19grs of 3F, either KIK or Goex, card wad, compressed about the length of the neck, no crimp
shoots to the same point of aim as the smokeless load
I wipe between shots with WSO and water with a nylon brush and patch
figure the velocity about 1350, never did a chrono
lots of fun

bubba15301
11-18-2013, 11:54 PM
has anyone tried triple 7 powder?

Nobade
11-19-2013, 08:54 AM
has anyone tried triple 7 powder?

Yes. It is more powerful, and leaves hard fouling in front of the chamber so the barrel needs to be swabbed out after a few shots or accuracy goes to pot. But you do get about 150 fps more velocity. I am much happier with real black myself.

-Nobade

bubba15301
11-21-2013, 04:01 PM
what primers do you use for blackpowder?rifle or pistol?

Kermit1945
11-21-2013, 08:08 PM
Reckon either will work, but I use pistol primers cuz I gots 'em. Can't imagine black not lighting off for choosing the wrong primer.

bubba15301
11-21-2013, 10:20 PM
loaded 17 grains 3f triple 7 and a 120 gr bullet