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Love Life
11-10-2013, 04:32 PM
Please start making 4 cavity moulds! If not in all calibers, then at least the pistol calibers.

I have quite a few moulds from different makers, and most are 4 cavity or more, but I'll tell you what. A 2 cavity RCBS mould can put out a pile of good boolit pretty quickly.

Why? Because when properly preheated you get keepers from the 1st pour until the last pour.

To new casters: RCBS moulds are worth the money.

To RCBS: Make 4 cavity moulds.

MTtimberline
11-10-2013, 04:43 PM
I second that. My RCBS are my favorites after my MP molds. They are the easiest to make good boolits and are great ones to learn with. 4 cavities would make them even better.

theperfessor
11-10-2013, 05:39 PM
Been singing that song for a long time. I would own a LOT more RCBS molds if they came in four cavity versions.

Baja_Traveler
11-10-2013, 05:51 PM
Just got out my old RCBS 44 Keith mold and cast a bunch for the new Colt SAA - while I was casting I was thinking exactly the same thing! In fact I wanted a 4,5 or 6 cavity so much that as soon as I was done I visited the NOE site (just to find nothing available).

I'll be keeping an eye out for the next group buy for this particular mold, and if it is a true copy of the Keith design I'll be all over it...

Longone
11-10-2013, 05:57 PM
Where's the petition? I'll sign, maybe they need to hear from the real world.

Longone

leadman
11-10-2013, 08:06 PM
I saw an old advertisement for the pre RCBS Ohaus molds that were 3 cavity on the same blocks from the looks of the picture. Even that would help.

Mk42gunner
11-10-2013, 11:19 PM
If Hensley and Gibbs were the Cadillac's of the old school molds, RCBS comes the closest of any other mass produced current mold that I have used.

I would love to see four plus cavity molds from RCBS.

Robert

MTtimberline
11-10-2013, 11:26 PM
Just got out my old RCBS 44 Keith mold and cast a bunch for the new Colt SAA - while I was casting I was thinking exactly the same thing! In fact I wanted a 4,5 or 6 cavity so much that as soon as I was done I visited the NOE site (just to find nothing available).

I'll be keeping an eye out for the next group buy for this particular mold, and if it is a true copy of the Keith design I'll be all over it...

There may be some leftovers of the recently closed MP 503 which is a 44 Keith design. They are very good looking molds.

kevmc
11-11-2013, 12:17 PM
Just got out my old RCBS 44 Keith mold and cast a bunch for the new Colt SAA - while I was casting I was thinking exactly the same thing! In fact I wanted a 4,5 or 6 cavity so much that as soon as I was done I visited the NOE site (just to find nothing available).

I'll be keeping an eye out for the next group buy for this particular mold, and if it is a true copy of the Keith design I'll be all over it...

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?74889-Mihec-HG-503-Cramer-hollow-point/page5

Smoke4320
11-11-2013, 01:17 PM
I would also love 4 Cav RCBS Molds..
As everyone said I find them to very easy to get good bullets and stay that way till I get tired of casting

ShooterAZ
11-11-2013, 02:28 PM
I have a lot of RCBS molds. It would be nice if they did make four bangers, but until then I will gladly continue using them. The old adage of quality over quantity comes into play here. I'm guessing that a 4 cavity RCBS mold would be pretty dang heavy, but then again the lead pot would be empty in half the time.

BruceB
11-11-2013, 03:16 PM
I'm another with quite a few RCBS moulds (and a VERY high regard for them.)

With most 2-cavity moulds, my 'speedcasting' production rate runs somewhere above 400 bullets per hour, and my 4-cavity moulds will give 800-1000 per hour depending on how well things are going. Those two-cavity rates *should* be sufficient, but......

I am NOT a welder, but it does seem to me that a GOOD welder could create a 4-cavity mould from a pair of RCBS two-cavity models, with a custom (or adapted) sprue plate. There are methods that would prevent warpage, and we MIGHT end up with a usable 4-cav mould. Would the cost be worth it? Maybe, for some people.

(DEFINITION: A "GOOD" welder is one who can weld a banana peel to a 2X4....)

leadhead
11-11-2013, 03:53 PM
I talked to a guy from RCBS years ago about 4 cavity molds. That's when I
was heavy into handgun silhouette. He told me that it wouldn't be cost
effective. I used to run 2 of the same molds at the same time to keep my
production rate up. Had 2 .35 cal for my .357 and 2 .30 cal for my production
and unlimited gun. Those were good times.
Denny

detox
11-11-2013, 04:55 PM
I have no need for a Four cavity mould as of now. I strive to make perfect bullets with smooth cut bases. I find this difficult to do with any mould over One cavity. Two cavity is plenty

Love Life
11-11-2013, 05:15 PM
How exciting...

BruceB
11-11-2013, 05:34 PM
[QUOTE=detox.: I strive to make perfect bullets with smooth cut bases. I find this difficult to do with any mould over One cavity. Two cavity is plenty[/QUOTE]

Dunno exactly what you're doing, but my 1-2-3-4-cavity moulds ALL give me sharp clean bases. It's all a question of technique, and I would purely HATE to be deprived of any of my 4-cavity moulds.

Sure would like to see RCBS build them, just as others have said.

detox
11-11-2013, 05:54 PM
If sprue puddle is allowed to cool too long, you will get torn and some raised bases on boolits. Especially when using 4 cavity, because the first cavity poured is allways coldest when cut. I agree that imperfect boolits are fine for blasting away at the range.

Love Life
11-11-2013, 08:21 PM
You'd be amazed at how well those imperfect boolits kill animals. When I first shot a jack rabbit at 30 yards with a wrinkled 358429 I just knew it was going to bounce off, if it even got within 90 yrds of the rabbit.

I was utterly amazed when the boolit flew straight and killed the rabbit. Amazed I tell you!!

RCBS: Please make 4 cavity moulds.

Mal Paso
11-11-2013, 09:54 PM
If RCBS made a 4 cavity Keith I never would have bought the undersized 429421 and come here to find out why the sizer wouldn't work. :grin:

RCBS, If you make them I will BUY!

quasi
11-12-2013, 01:07 AM
I have always liked RCBS quality, when I first got into casting the difference in quality between RCBS and Lyman's casting products was obvious even then. But it is to late for me, all of my 2 cavity moulds have been replaced with 4,5, and 6 cavity moulds of other makes.

Bret4207
11-12-2013, 09:52 AM
I would bet RCBS's moulds account for less than 1% of their revenue. The chances of them bringing out a new line for 5-10% of that 1% are pretty slim guys. Heck, we can't even get Lyman to produce their old designs that would sell like hot cakes! Find a custom mould maker and tell him what you want is my advice.

waco
11-12-2013, 10:11 PM
Dittos on loving my RCBS molds. Four cavity molds from them would be SUPER sweet! But, I'm not going to hold my breath.
Waco

MTtimberline
11-12-2013, 10:20 PM
RCBS, If you make them I will BUY!

Add me to the list for this.

Old Caster
11-19-2013, 10:34 PM
I consider RCBS and Saeco to be of equal quality and the Saeco comes in 4 cavity. I have quite a few RCBS molds because Saeco doesn't happen to make everything I want and even have some 2 cavity Saeco molds that I wish were 4. Saeco is also a little more expensive but not enough to whine about. Compared to Lyman or Lee the other two are magic hunks of metal.

runfiverun
11-20-2013, 02:01 PM
myself and ken [molly] molholland undertook a quest to find someone that would ramp up and cut 4 cavity mehanite molds a few years back.
almost all the designs we wanted cut were of the rcbs rifle persuasion.
deal after deal fell through for one reason or another over a period of about 2-1/2 years.

however with today's CNC machining, aluminum molds are going to be what's available in the multiple cavity type molds.
they are easier for the machines to cut, and do it more precisely.
I have a few of walt melanders 4 cavity rifle molds in aluminum and they are all I need to knock out very good quality consistent weight boolits at a easy to cast at pace.
in fact I haven't used either one in a couple of years because they will pile up boolits so fast I'm still shooting the ones I made the last go-round.

I'd bet it wouldn't be too hard to get one of our guy's to make a 4-5 cavity [maybe 6]
rcbs 30-150 [or 170] fngc mold and keep the speed and quality we want.

rintinglen
11-21-2013, 07:10 PM
Runfiverun, you're right in that The Swede, or Miha Previc can run small production run aluminum molds. But I would still like RCBS to make 4 Cavity molds. A 4 cavity 32-98 SWC would make me smile like a Democrat at Socialist Convention.

Leadmelter
11-21-2013, 09:12 PM
I learned casting with RCBS molds. The 357 150K is a favorite as is the 45 201. The 180gr 30 cal and the 458 405 is another goodie.
Enjoy them while you got them.
Leadmelter
MI

runfiverun
11-21-2013, 11:47 PM
oh I'm with you rintin:
I was all set to pony up 2-k of start up money to see it happen, we just couldn't get a shop to do the work, or if we could they just couldn't turn out the quality.

hopefully another mold maker is coming on line soon and we see some true 4-5 cavity rcbs/lyman rifle designs that cast as well as the mehanite ones.
I'm afraid aluminum is the wave of the future, and we might as well get what we want as far as size and design.

btroj
11-22-2013, 12:01 AM
A 4 cav RCBS would be heavy. I dislike the Lyman 4 cav for that reason. I ain't that big of a guy and an overly heavy mould wears me out fast.

Aluminum just makes sense for bigger moulds.

Elkins45
11-24-2013, 11:15 AM
Does RCBS use the same size blocks for most molds? Maybe some enterprising sort could market a custom set of nutcracker handles and a big custom sprue plate to gang two sets of blocks together into a single pseudo 4 cavity? This is an extension of BruceB's idea, but maybe one that doesn't require a welder. There's no actual reason the blocks have to be physically joined to each other as long as the handle keeps them in register.

For that matter, there's no reason they couldn't be mounted using their existing sprue plates facing in opposite directions. It might be hard to whack the inside facing one, but if it's warm you can usually cut sprues with a gloved hand anyway.